Xtrap, the new GameGaurd?
Any of you old CF veterans remember GameGaurd? You know, that horrible program than never worked to stop hacks?
Well it seems to me that Xfire is slowly regressing to that same niche. Ineffectual, infrequent updates that do nothing to stop hackers, old hacks left unpatched, its looking more and more like Z8 is the only fighter in this battle. Indeed, the only time hacks are slowed is when Z8 updates, and all that's slowing them is the need to work out the new DLL addresses. No, it's no substitute for a working anti-hack software.
I propose Z8 ends its contract with Xtrap and moves to an advanced, well known solution such as HackShield (http://hackshield.ahnlab.com/hs/site/en/main/main.do). If its an issue of money, I'd like to point out that if the hacks don't stop, most of Z8's clientèle will leave for other games. And this wonderful FPS will degrade into a playground for hackers. Then Z8 will have NO income.
A little more about HackShield: It protects several other games that I play, and it protects them damn well. In 2+ years of trying to hack/mod those games, the ONLY way that's successful is to completely disable HackShield - a near impossible feat thats often patched a few days after someone exploits it. I couldn't even modify game IMAGE files (.jpg, .tga, ect) without it raising hell, even without the game running.
It even goes a step farther and stops spambots and farmbots! Imagine my shock when I botted the game, and HackShield almost instantly flagged it and force closed!
So what's the alternative Z8? Sit around and watch the game be destroyed by hackers?
Well it seems to me that Xfire is slowly regressing to that same niche. Ineffectual, infrequent updates that do nothing to stop hackers, old hacks left unpatched, its looking more and more like Z8 is the only fighter in this battle. Indeed, the only time hacks are slowed is when Z8 updates, and all that's slowing them is the need to work out the new DLL addresses. No, it's no substitute for a working anti-hack software.
I propose Z8 ends its contract with Xtrap and moves to an advanced, well known solution such as HackShield (http://hackshield.ahnlab.com/hs/site/en/main/main.do). If its an issue of money, I'd like to point out that if the hacks don't stop, most of Z8's clientèle will leave for other games. And this wonderful FPS will degrade into a playground for hackers. Then Z8 will have NO income.
A little more about HackShield: It protects several other games that I play, and it protects them damn well. In 2+ years of trying to hack/mod those games, the ONLY way that's successful is to completely disable HackShield - a near impossible feat thats often patched a few days after someone exploits it. I couldn't even modify game IMAGE files (.jpg, .tga, ect) without it raising hell, even without the game running.
- Aimbot? Good luck, it's constantly scanning for suspicious memory access.
- Chams? Nice try, it'll block you from accessing any CF - related memory.
- Speedhack? Nope. Constantly checks your computer's clock.
- Injected DLLs? I don't think so. Detects most injectors before crossfire.exe even starts up, and if its not instantly detected, you have about 30 seconds of play before it detects your modified client.
- Find a way around it? Not for long you didn't. VERY diligent support staff, frequent updates whenever an exploit is found.
It even goes a step farther and stops spambots and farmbots! Imagine my shock when I botted the game, and HackShield almost instantly flagged it and force closed!
So what's the alternative Z8? Sit around and watch the game be destroyed by hackers?
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Xcelled194 wrote: »Any of you old CF veterans remember GameGaurd? You know, that horrible program than never worked to stop hacks?
Well it seems to me that Xfire is slowly regressing to that same niche. Ineffectual, infrequent updates that do nothing to stop hackers, old hacks left unpatched, its looking more and more like Z8 is the only fighter in this battle. Indeed, the only time hacks are slowed is when Z8 updates, and all that's slowing them is the need to work out the new DLL addresses. No, it's no substitute for a working anti-hack software.
I propose Z8 ends its contract with Xtrap and moves to an advanced, well known solution such as HackShield (http://hackshield.ahnlab.com/hs/site/en/main/main.do). If its an issue of money, I'd like to point out that if the hacks don't stop, most of Z8's clientèle will leave for other games. And this wonderful FPS will degrade into a playground for hackers. Then Z8 will have NO income.
A little more about HackShield: It protects several other games that I play, and it protects them damn well. In 2+ years of trying to hack/mod those games, the ONLY way that's successful is to completely disable HackShield - a near impossible feat thats often patched a few days after someone exploits it. I couldn't even modify game IMAGE files (.jpg, .tga, ect) without it raising hell, even without the game running.- Aimbot? Good luck, it's constantly scanning for suspicious memory access.
- Chams? Nice try, it'll block you from accessing any CF - related memory.
- Speedhack? Nope. Constantly checks your computer's clock.
- Injected DLLs? I don't think so. Detects most injectors before crossfire.exe even starts up, and if its not instantly detected, you have about 30 seconds of play before it detects your modified client.
- Find a way around it? Not for long you didn't. VERY diligent support staff, frequent updates whenever an exploit is found.
It even goes a step farther and stops spambots and farmbots! Imagine my shock when I botted the game, and HackShield almost instantly flagged it and force closed!
So what's the alternative Z8? Sit around and watch the game be destroyed by hackers?
combat arms runs hackshield ._.
BR's still hack our version of the hackshield, even with an update every 3 days ._.
So, no changing it would cost a lot of money, wouldn't change anything in the long run, also, it's pretty damm glitchy >.> -
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Xcelled194 wrote: »At least HS is patching... Xtrap's not even trying... if I saw Xtrap updating every three days, I'd go, "OK, they're legitimatly attempting to stop this." But instead, I think "what the f--- is Z8 playing at, an anti-hack that's so damn lazy?"
oh well, the problem is, the patches do not stop the hackers at all, even tough they update very 3 days, those updates fail to patch the hacks, wich is frustrating.
Today, CABR is about to bankrupt, since players aren't playing it and paying for items anymore, the hacking situation is so horrible that people are paranoid and attemp to kick everyone who gets a 1.5+ KD in one match,.
So, i will only agree in trading our trusty x-trap IF hackshield patches all the hacks AND keep'em out of the game, unlike the job they're doing at CABR.
Well, if xtrap could get faster updates and patches it would be cool, but they would have to be faster than the hackers are, since they release new functional hacks within the period of 2 days ._.
and x-trap only updates every month because they actually do a good patching, they accumulate very single hack they had in their hands and patch them so they'll not come back from the same route, so, that's why the kinds of hacks change from pach to patch. -
Xtrap? Trusty? I'll concede that they do an OK job of patching.... once a month. If, as you say, this only stops hacks for 2 days, wtf are we supposed to do the other 29 days? Kick everyone who does decently well in a match?
Crossfire is fast heading the way of CABR, even with xtrap at the helm. This thread isn't Xtrap vs HackShield, its Why isn't Xtrap working, and what can be done?
Its worth noting that xtrap has become so predicable that hack sites offer a template. Simply plug the current DLL addresses in, and *poof* working hack. It takes about 5 minutes with a disassembler for even a novice to find the updated address. I also know that this template was unaffected by the last xtrap patch. Its been around for ~3 months, and STILL works, as evidenced on hacker forums. This is exactly the behavior that got Gamegaurd canned. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Xtrap isn't even close to how bad GameGuard was. But ATM, GameGuard is better. (A.V.A)
CF also loads faster with X-Trap
you know what those programs really do?
prevent people from having free ZP hacks, so the company doesn't loses money, the cheating prevention is just a "bonus" they give us >.> -
you know what those programs really do?
prevent people from having free ZP hacks, so the company doesn't loses money, the cheating prevention is just a "bonus" they give us >.>
Hm..
Well ijji, or whatever the website is named, keeps getting hacked by people who have been banned. I guess they care more about their customers than their money.
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Hm..
Well ijji, or whatever the website is named, keeps getting hacked by people who have been banned. I guess they care more about their customers than their money.
oh well, they really care about us since our community is one of the most active communities on those FFps, otherwise this forum would be abandoned ._. -
Dont say punkbuster... you say punkbuster and you prove you have no knopwledge of what youre talking about
HackShield sucks..... I dont know what games youre playing...
XTrap actually works... like all AntiCheats its not going to stop a hack it doesnt know about...
These hacks are being patched as we speak but their so widely distributed theyre all hard to find....
Every single past hack has been stopped from working ever again thanks to XTrap... most AC's blanket it and can be slightly edited to work again... like GG.. changing the filename worked 99% of the time to bypass it -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Dont say punkbuster... you say punkbuster and you prove you have no knopwledge of what youre talking about
HackShield sucks..... I dont know what games youre playing...
XTrap actually works... like all AntiCheats its not going to stop a hack it doesnt know about...
These hacks are being patched as we speak but their so widely distributed theyre all hard to find....
Every single past hack has been stopped from working ever again thanks to XTrap... most AC's blanket it and can be slightly edited to work again... like GG.. changing the filename worked 99% of the time to bypass it
Yes Xtrap works. Once a month. For two days.
I don't buy "it won't stop a hack it doesn't know about". Hacks have certain signatures, much like viruses and other malware. A decent program would scan for these. -
Xcelled194 wrote: »Yes Xtrap works. Once a month. For two days.
I don't buy "it won't stop a hack it doesn't know about". Hacks have certain signatures, much like viruses and other malware. A decent program would scan for these.
Expanding on what I said, check out these two wikipedia articals:
This one on Heuristics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristics#Computer_science
Heuristics is the method by which antivirus/antimalware tools detect previously unknown viruses. Its not foolproof by any means, but it generally does very well, and the potential gains offset any damages caused by false positives.
This one gives some more info on how antivirus software detects "Zero Day Threats" aka previously unknown threats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivirus_software
If Xtrap implimented some anti-virus like features, it could better deal with most hacks. Without waiting for a patch update. -
Do you think they don't have one?Xcelled194 wrote: »Expanding on what I said, check out these two wikipedia articals:
This one on Heuristics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristics#Computer_science
Heuristics is the method by which antivirus/antimalware tools detect previously unknown viruses. Its not foolproof by any means, but it generally does very well, and the potential gains offset any damages caused by false positives.
This one gives some more info on how antivirus software detects "Zero Day Threats" aka previously unknown threats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivirus_software
If Xtrap implimented some anti-virus like features, it could better deal with most hacks. Without waiting for a patch update. -
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We're reaching the point where "the best it can" is "a free ticket to hackers". I was in a HM today, 13 of the 16 people were oneshotting. This has grown over two weeks from an isolated case to a mass attack, and I really doubt Z8 is going to take the time to ban everyone. Even if they do, banning a hack isn't effective. "Oh gee, Z8 banned my account. I think I'll stop hacking" yeah, we wish. IF z8 was smart, they'd include a feature that would perminatly disable crossfire on a computer of a known hacker. They could use this during hack-fests like now to reduce the number of restarts.
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Look dude crossfire is a free to play game, meaning yes there will be hackers, the game isn't perfect nor will any game be. if your that fed up with hackers stop playing it and find another game or do your part and help report hackers when you see them, not cry about them on the forums.
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Look dude crossfire is a free to play game, meaning yes there will be hackers, the game isn't perfect nor will any game be. if your that fed up with hackers stop playing it and find another game or do your part and help report hackers when you see them, not cry about them on the forums.
I buy zp so its not free to me.. ok its not fair we have to deal with hackers.
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