Sniper Rifle are OverPowerd
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Let's put it like this.
EVERYONE not using a AWM has to put in 100% FULL FORWARD EFFORT to get kills or help the team. 1 person v 5 with a normal weapon is a TASK based on ALL SKILL and SOME LUCK.
On the OTHER HAND, with the AWM being the only weapon that's a one shot from long range, I can sit off somewhere while my teammates are getting bagged on and the other team is working hard and BAM.... lazy ass don't wanna die AWM user goes and put one on em in an unfair battle. Any other sniper rifle is a suppression weapon (and getting hit by it more then once or so is a full loss. I don't hear people complaining about getting 1 shot by any other rifle besides the DSR, and even THAT costs more then the AWM and requires more money to buy it [which also brings in the question as to why it's not in WOGL scrims...not having to come off target is hardly much of an advantage when the hit boxes are crap and player movement is weird as it already is...]) that getting hit or almost getting hit by it will make enemies think twice about moving up. AWM's...not even fair in that aspect...being able to pick a whole team ALONE when almost any other weapon can't do or that without having a hack on or totally being pro or being damn lucky...
I had a DSR on my main account, and an AWM on my 3rd sub account, and I can say that AWM was WAY more of a problem...DSR makes the user want to hold a path for teammates or rapid fire and suppress any forward motions the other team may want to do.
Crappy whip it out like the stick in your pants AWM seemingly has 100% accuracy while shift walking...like a walking OP TANK.
Either way, the only people who DO complain about the m12s are the ones who jumped on the stupid "IT'S OP FDP FDP" train that popped up when it was released...you see it hasn't been nerfed tho...because when you face it off with a rifle from range it's just like any other SMG with power that's iffy and accuracy that changes while moving...something anyone can deal with. Deal with 5 people camping BL spawn on BlackWidow knowing that they have plenty of cover to hide behind and no one rushing will be able to properly dispose of the bunch without having a flashbang and/or smoke nade which BTW, people wanna QQ about all the damn time...
AWM/Snipers = WEAK players mentally...and the first person they end up crying to is the riflers on their team when something DOES go wrong...because 'they were supposed to cover meeeh!!!
This team n0000bs!'.
Pro's, will whipe out the other team completely with their rifles/smg's, but you don't have to be totally n0 lifer to rush into the BW BL's spawn and r4pe'em, you just need to know the right routes for the right situations, you'll have to prioritize targets in order to none of'em take you down before you've completed your mission. So, it's not impossible to win from a bunch of campers with AWM's and cover ._.
it doesn't have 100% accuracy while shift walking, the person just stops for a brief moment to take a shot, then walk/jump to the cover, you just don't realise when he stops walking and take the shot.
Tell me why you think this, sniping is a role where you need to know the map, the players you're playing against, each one of the tactics, common used routes, resuming, they need to plan everything before acting, and they have to conclude their missions with only 5 bullets in a mag, so, they have to deal with the pressure of being at the constant danger of getting wiped out by a rusher. It's more of a mental work, so, the sniper has to be STRONG mentally to do well with a sniper rifle, also, the first Real sniper that cannot cover the common rusher points and shoot down the rushers coming to backr4pe him, it's just a plain idiot that thinks he's a sniper. -
dude a sprayer can get a 1 hit kill to the head and you have to be a staff sergent to use awm and if you think weapons are unbalanced in here then try out Soldier Front were u can get a semi psg sniper at the first lvl and its a 1 hit kill I think that sprayers are better in CF but I like sniping so sometimes I go in sniper only rooms and you probably think this because you just crouch on the ground and shoot at the sniper which is a very easy sniper shot and btw I think Sniper to Sprayer thing is balanced
We ain't talking about how other games do thing bud...we're talking about stupid SmileGate here.
And ANYONE can get a headshot off of spray, but you HARDLY ever see snipers getting headshots BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO AIM THERE! Do that's moot too.
Also, Staff Sargent X Vs. DSR-1's rank (can't find em)...tons of kills and time and won/lost matchs...yes, if you wanted a DSR more effort was need to be done in the form of giving/taking ass kickings and saving money FROM THE MOMENT YOU START YOUR ACCOUNT.
Yes, freebee sniper that requires a shot in the largest part of your body to get a kill vs a sniper that cost an arm and a leg to get + a higher rank + you can hardly walk with the thing...
No, sprayers can't spray from long ranges ALL THE DAMN TIME and get headshots...you see more people getting low dmg hits from long range then you do magic headshot ALL DAY...I don't know how long YOU'VE been playing, but I've only seen 4 instances of anyone using the m12s at GR spawn and hitting a sniper poking the only part of his body out a small window.....HIS HEAD. Hardly magic, it's called the 1st 2 bullets of just about any weapon are 0 recoil 0 spread. But you'll end up dead 98% of the time BECAUSE AN AWM ONLY HAS TO HIT THE LARGEST PART OF YOUR BODY...
SOOOOOO balanced.
PS : Now lets say the other team has NO m12s's...you gonna cry BS when THEY get you with a lucky headshot? No, I don't think you will. Bandwagon baby. -
We ain't talking about how other games do thing bud...we're talking about stupid SmileGate here.
And ANYONE can get a headshot off of spray, but you HARDLY ever see snipers getting headshots BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO AIM THERE! Do that's moot too.
Also, Staff Sargent X Vs. DSR-1's rank (can't find em)...tons of kills and time and won/lost matchs...yes, if you wanted a DSR more effort was need to be done in the form of giving/taking ass kickings and saving money FROM THE MOMENT YOU START YOUR ACCOUNT.
Yes, freebee sniper that requires a shot in the largest part of your body to get a kill vs a sniper that cost an arm and a leg to get + a higher rank + you can hardly walk with the thing...
No, sprayers can't spray from long ranges ALL THE DAMN TIME and get headshots...you see more people getting low dmg hits from long range then you do magic headshot ALL DAY...I don't know how long YOU'VE been playing, but I've only seen 4 instances of anyone using the m12s at GR spawn and hitting a sniper poking the only part of his body out a small window.....HIS HEAD. Hardly magic, it's called the 1st 2 bullets of just about any weapon are 0 recoil 0 spread. But you'll end up dead 98% of the time BECAUSE AN AWM ONLY HAS TO HIT THE LARGEST PART OF YOUR BODY...
SOOOOOO balanced.
PS : Now lets say the other team has NO m12s's...you gonna cry BS when THEY get you with a lucky headshot? No, I don't think you will. Bandwagon baby.
Dude, just live with that, if you don't like it, go play another game.
also, let's say, the sniper got 1 bullet to hit that part of the body, while dealing with:
-the chance of being headshotted by a rifler, wich is probably what will happen if he takes too much time to aim.
-the shaking that getting hit will cause when someone hits him with a non-1-hit kill weapon.
the chance of being backr4ped by some rusher.
The sniper gotta be accurate and fast, and he doesn't have second chances, while the riflers have pretty much to 1-shot and strafe to kill the sniper, also, they got 30 chances to hit the sniper >.> -
Pro's, will whipe out the other team completely with their rifles/smg's, but you don't have to be totally n0 lifer to rush into the BW BL's spawn and r4pe'em, you just need to know the right routes for the right situations, you'll have to prioritize targets in order to none of'em take you down before you've completed your mission. So, it's not impossible to win from a bunch of campers with AWM's and cover ._.
it doesn't have 100% accuracy while shift walking, the person just stops for a brief moment to take a shot, then walk/jump to the cover, you just don't realise when he stops walking and take the shot.
Tell me why you think this, sniping is a role where you need to know the map, the players you're playing against, each one of the tactics, common used routes, resuming, they need to plan everything before acting, and they have to conclude their missions with only 5 bullets in a mag, so, they have to deal with the pressure of being at the constant danger of getting wiped out by a rusher. It's more of a mental work, so, the sniper has to be STRONG mentally to do well with a sniper rifle, also, the first Real sniper that cannot cover the common rusher points and shoot down the rushers coming to backr4pe him, it's just a plain idiot that thinks he's a sniper.
I'll give you the points for all 3 of your...points...here, but we're not talking about scrim setting where no one can really complain about it...and even then, it's BS when you have to bust your ass all up and down the field and some doorway camping chump can wash it all away with one poorly aimed freebee kill bullet. I'd rather get killed by a m12s camper then someone camping a place where a kill is practically HANDED to them.
And as for your point and awm walkers....this is a SNIPER RIFLE...your not even supposed to be able WALK WITH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! This is why alot of games add sniper sway because a weapon that you can walk with and stop for 1/10th of a second and poke a hole into anyone who walks past is just plain stupid...
Oh, did you know? SWAT teams have SHARPSHOOTERS, not snipers. Why? A SHARPSHOOTERS uses a lower power rifle at close ranges....LIKE IN CF. The rifles are not the full on sized things such as the AWM, because they aren't needed... SNIPERS are deployed at LONG LONG RANGES where having to deal with enemies in close quarters would be a liability...nothing that CF has in most maps, give or take a few places in certain maps. Every damn game that has a gun has to have this crap idea of having warfare sniper rifles in CQB battle conditions...where no one with such a rifle would stand a change at doing a damn thing to ANYONE who ends up coming up on them. It's fricking annoying...
I remember playing a mod in UT1 that only has snipers, always a 1 hit, and lost 99.9% of it's accuracy when moving. You were FORCED to do what the sniper was ever designed to do...HIDE, WAIT, LOOK FOR YOUR ENEMY who is at long ranges, AND KILL FIRST...no quick scoping, no walking around, no FIRE-Q-Q-FIRE if I missed BS. ALL SKILL in hiding and true sniper fighting.
I say the worst damn thing CS every did was not doing the homework and putting a sniper rifle in CBQ conditions and leaving it with it's original power. -
i just love seeing the pink mist... and your QQ comments it feeds my soul =]
When I get killed by a normal sniper, someone who didn't have to spend $9xx for a deagle camo and was in a good angle spot and I wasn't paying attention and he picks me, I give him a nod...and F12 any kicks when they start crying ***.
Any sniper who starting calling a m12s user (or ANY other smg for that matter) a noob for walking up to him through a hailstorm of hellfire and killing him is just a sore loser, plain and simple...
QQ THAT, mister.
(...why is h.a.x masked?!) -
I'll give you the points for all 3 of your...points...here, but we're not talking about scrim setting where no one can really complain about it...and even then, it's BS when you have to bust your ass all up and down the field and some doorway camping chump can wash it all away with one poorly aimed freebee kill bullet. I'd rather get killed by a m12s camper then someone camping a place where a kill is practically HANDED to them.
And as for your point and awm walkers....this is a SNIPER RIFLE...your not even supposed to be able WALK WITH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! This is why alot of games add sniper sway because a weapon that you can walk with and stop for 1/10th of a second and poke a hole into anyone who walks past is just plain stupid...
Oh, did you know? SWAT teams have SHARPSHOOTERS, not snipers. Why? A SHARPSHOOTERS uses a lower power rifle at close ranges....LIKE IN CF. The rifles are not the full on sized things such as the AWM, because they aren't needed... SNIPERS are deployed at LONG LONG RANGES where having to deal with enemies in close quarters would be a liability...nothing that CF has in most maps, give or take a few places in certain maps. Every damn game that has a gun has to have this crap idea of having warfare sniper rifles in CQB battle conditions...where no one with such a rifle would stand a change at doing a damn thing to ANYONE who ends up coming up on them. It's fricking annoying...
I remember playing a mod in UT1 that only has snipers, always a 1 hit, and lost 99.9% of it's accuracy when moving. You were FORCED to do what the sniper was ever designed to do...HIDE, WAIT, LOOK FOR YOUR ENEMY who is at long ranges, AND KILL FIRST...no quick scoping, no walking around, no FIRE-Q-Q-FIRE if I missed BS. ALL SKILL in hiding and true sniper fighting.
I say the worst damn thing CS every did was not doing the homework and putting a sniper rifle in CBQ conditions and leaving it with it's original power.
Seriously, you need to go play something like battlefield where snipers really do stay at long ranges, but the fault isn't ours, we Do snipe like we do in this game because only small maps are thrown at us, also, about the sniper sway, it's not here, but the snipers have the accuracy drop while moving, but it recovers fairly quickly when you're motionless, wich is kinda normal, since when you stop moving, you look up your sights, your aim will be stabilized for a few seconds, then your arm will make the sniper move a little.
About the campers, there's just nothing to do with it, and people do not tend to camp with sniper rifles where they cannot be seen without a 180º turn, they stay on open, large areas with large vision fields, so, you can take the route without those caracteristics, and backr4p'em.
Well, if they only threw out CQB weapons, we wouldn't have here MG's like the m60, most probably only the minimi, we wouldn't have the scar-h, wich is a dmr, wich means it's meant to be used by marksmans, like short range sharpshooters, the SMG's would rein absolute on the game .-.
Well, to conclude, this is a game, where you should have fun, not complain and get stressed, so, go to maps like egypt or cairo with your rifles, preferably rifles with 100% wallbang, wich will be extremely useful, since you can wallbang almost all the cover that the snipers have on cairo. Good aim with a rifle will make you rein over most of the snipers, tactics will do it too, gg. -
The sniper gotta be accurate and fast, and he doesn't have second chances, while the riflers have pretty much to 1-shot and strafe to kill the sniper, also, they got 30 chances to hit the sniper >.>
Pfft...accurate. Your chest is the largest part of your body and missing THAT is close to impossible. I've picked people by shooting their elbow...(not lying either...)
And as for that 30 changes to kill thing... odds. 1 in 30 bullets will kill vs 1 in 2 bullet will kill.
Still say it's going to favor the sniper at the end of the day, seeing as he's not on the team alone........................and having more then 1 sniper just raised that one shot one skill odds by that much more. -
When I get killed by a normal sniper, someone who didn't have to spend $9xx for a deagle camo and was in a good angle spot and I wasn't paying attention and he picks me, I give him a nod...and F12 any kicks when they start crying ***.
Any sniper who starting calling a m12s user (or ANY other smg for that matter) a noob for walking up to him through a hailstorm of hellfire and killing him is just a sore loser, plain and simple...
QQ THAT, mister.
(...why is h.a.x masked?!)
m12s user+sniper bullet to the face = profit, it's pretty simple, since most of'em are brainless sprayers, we can foresee where they're going to appear, look there sometimes, when you hear the hellstorm, just shoot him, he'll won't hit you firstly if you have good reflexes. -
people are like gonna consider soooo many guns as OP, until all of you consider every gun in CF are OP... -____-"
If not Scar Light/ M12s...
G36k would be newly considered OP...
if not just G36k...
Sniper Rifles: AWM, Dragunov, PSG1, MSG90...
if not just sniper rifles...
M4, QBZ, K-2....
if not just M4, etc...
MP5...
If not just MP5...
Uzi and M9!!... -_____-'
All the way till every guns are considered...
So STOP considering more weapons OP in CF... Even if it's a decent/OP gun, it doesn't mean YOU are restricted from using it... You're not restricted from using M4, sniper rifles, K-2, QBZ, etc. -___- -
Pfft...accurate. Your chest is the largest part of your body and missing THAT is close to impossible. I've picked people by shooting their elbow...(not lying either...)
And as for that 30 changes to kill thing... odds. 1 in 30 bullets will kill vs 1 in 2 bullet will kill.
Still say it's going to favor the sniper at the end of the day, seeing as he's not on the team alone........................and having more then 1 sniper just raised that one shot one skill odds by that much more.
i killed 4 snipers over BW's BL base, with a beretta ar-70, just one-shotting, used 12 bullets, got 4 headshots, it's just a matter of good aim+good tactics, i had cover with me to difficult the sniper's job.
So, it's just a matter of where you are and for what your weapon is designed, sniper rifles are just designed to kill efficiently and accurately, but they lack cqc proeficiency, you just have to push the sniper into a cqc situation, the best he can do is change into his deagle, but he still got only 7 bullets, you got 30 .-. -
Tell me why you think this, sniping is a role where you need to know the map, the players you're playing against, each one of the tactics, common used routes, resuming, they need to plan everything before acting, and they have to conclude their missions with only 5 bullets in a mag, so, they have to deal with the pressure of being at the constant danger of getting wiped out by a rusher. It's more of a mental work, so, the sniper has to be STRONG mentally to do well with a sniper rifle, also, the first Real sniper that cannot cover the common rusher points and shoot down the rushers coming to backr4pe him, it's just a plain idiot that thinks he's a sniper.
Aww you knew what i was thinking
U knew about my sniping 1337ness too
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So you're like this guy in this SS?
[pic removed for convenient space]
In this SS, it shows that I'm holding a K2, which I picked up by dropping my AWM after rounds and rounds of complaining from this guy who thinks an AWMer is a "noob" and told me to "get a real gun"
OT: I strongly disagree with your opinion.
I laughed a lot. No really.
The M700 is a headshot trainer gun. Not too useful in the more competitve or higher ranked battles. -
Seriously, you need to go play something like battlefield where snipers really do stay at long ranges, but the fault isn't ours, we Do snipe like we do in this game because only small maps are thrown at us, also, about the sniper sway, it's not here, but the snipers have the accuracy drop while moving, but it recovers fairly quickly when you're motionless, wich is kinda normal, since when you stop moving, you look up your sights, your aim will be stabilized for a few seconds, then your arm will make the sniper move a little.
battle field sniping takes skill.
end of story awm is not op. you have 1 shot to take out the target. that takes skill -
The balance is bad why can many sniperrifle 1hit kill with a body shoot that is bad in CS is that ok, the weapon buy on start and is very expensiv but in CF have you this weapon everytime thaht is unbalance and the player nedd low skill 1 headshoot or 2 bodyshoots are perfekt for sniperrifle thaht is balance and the player need high skill for this weapon.
Stupid BR. all you do is complain....
Only BR I have respect for at this time is vege.
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