Are there any Libertarians on CF?
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Well I consider myself a Moderate, if that helps...
I'm pro on immigration and the use of the gdp in order to strengthen our countries army.
I'm also pro death sentence and pro choice in abortion.
I'm also pro in our right to bear arms as well as our right to seek change in the government.
idk? does that help at all? -
atrueasian wrote: »Well I consider myself a Moderate, if that helps...
I'm pro on immigration and the use of the gdp in order to strengthen our countries army.
I'm also pro death sentence and pro choice in abortion.
I'm also pro in our right to bear arms as well as our right to seek change in the government.
idk? does that help at all?
Yea, you're all over the political map, jeez, lol. Oh well so am I on some things. -
Well I prefer a country run by Moderates instead of leftist or rightist, I just think the country would develop at an exponential rate and benefit all of us. But yea lol being all over the political map is what a moderate is all aboutDoctorKelso wrote: »Yea, you're all over the political map, jeez, lol. Oh well so am I on some things.
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DoctorKelso wrote: »To me the only "running" the government should do is protection of the people and their private properties. The economy should be completely laissez-faire, that is of course unless it violates human rights policies. Simple and easy.
I believe in a mix economy with as little governmental control as possible. At the same time I think government should have more power over the states since there is certain things like immigration that the states just should have no rights over, I mean this country was founded by immigrants, so who are we to criticize? -
atrueasian wrote: »I believe in a mix economy with as little governmental control as possible. At the same time I think government should have more power over the states since there is certain things like immigration that the states just should have no rights over, I mean this country was founded by immigrants, so who are we to criticize?
Why should one power dictate the laws of bodies of government that are completely different. The people also differ. Sure the country was founded by immigrants, but it was all documented. The puritans simply didn't hop on a boat and come to America. They received Royal Charters. Free immigration will only result in reallocation of money to different countries hindering our economy. Documented immigration is fine. Back to the States or Federal issue. States have different interests, imposing the will of one great body of power over other small bodies for their idea of "the common good" without consent of the people in that territory is just fascism. -
I do not mean free immigration, I am against that entirely. But also remember that in those times these were the lands of Native Americans in which the King had absolutely no right, so all royal charters were in a way illegal documents. Back to States/Federal Issues. States might have different interests but the interest of the country as a whole should subside the states interest, the will of the many should overrule the will of the few as long as the few are not mistreated/discriminated etc.DoctorKelso wrote: »Why should one power dictate the laws of bodies of government that are completely different. The people also differ. Sure the country was founded by immigrants, but it was all documented. The puritans simply didn't hop on a boat and come to America. They received Royal Charters. Free immigration will only result in reallocation of money to different countries hindering our economy. Documented immigration is fine. Back to the States or Federal issue. States have different interests, imposing the will of one great body of power over other small bodies for their idea of "the common good" without consent of the people in that territory is just fascism. -
I believe in what the framers believed. A strong government is needed in order to keep track of the states and it's people but at the same time the people should be able to organize and states should be able to provide the protection and freedom to organize a coup d'état against the government, if this government gets out of control or is not interested in what is best for its people. (guns, militia, money etc.)
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atrueasian wrote: »I do not mean free immigration, I am against that entirely. But also remember that in those times these were the lands of Native Americans in which the King had absolutely no right, so all royal charters were in a way illegal documents. Back to States/Federal Issues. States might have different interests but the interest of the country as a whole should subside the states interest, the will of the many should overrule the will of the few as long as the few are not mistreated/discriminated etc.
Why should interests of the country as a whole subside the states interest? Also the will of the many is not over willing the will of the few in your case. This gives the false notion that the federal government represents the interests of every single citizen. That is not true. If 55% of Californians oppose legal marijuana, but hypothetically the federal government deems it to be legal, thats the will of the few over the will of the many. That is why States should wield primary power. -
DoctorKelso wrote: »Why should interests of the country as a whole subside the states interest? Also the will of the many is not over willing the will of the few in your case. This gives the false notion that the federal government represents the interests of every single citizen. That is not true. If 55% of Californians oppose legal marijuana, but hypothetically the federal government deems it to be legal, thats the will of the few over the will of the many. That is why States should wield primary power.
This is my last post since I have to go to sleep.
I am sorry I seemed to have explained myself incorrectly, I do not look for a simply majority of +1, in my case a majority would be a difference in numbers such as 3/4 were it is obvious that the need of the many subside those of the few. I believe that the constitution was constructed in a way to prevent the majority from ruling with an iron fist, but at the same time giving the majority enough power to exercise the will of the majority over that of the minority (3/4) such as the countries will to protect itself from the states will to spend more money in new building construction. -
atrueasian wrote: »This is my last post since I have to go to sleep.
I am sorry I seemed to have explained myself incorrectly, I do not look for a simply majority of +1, in my case a majority would be a difference in numbers such as 3/4 were it is obvious that the need of the many subside those of the few. I believe that the constitution was constructed in a way to prevent the majority from ruling with an iron fist, but at the same time giving the majority enough power to exercise the will of the majority over that of the minority (3/4) such as the countries will to protect itself from the states will to spend more money in new building construction.
I guess I should sleep soon too. I'll just respond with saying that I believe the will of the majority should will, I agree with you in that except under certain circumstances. As Plato pointed out, there is a true justice. So in some cases, a simple majority should not be enough to make a change. However this is sort of elitist and anti-democratic but I do believe it's more beneficial. Also, the state has a separate economy, if it is it's will to build a building and it is approved by the state government through state officials represented by the people, let it be so. Anyways, PM me if you want to continue this later, good night.
You should also whisper me in game to add me. IGN : DoctorKelso
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