Step up Maintenance to patch hacks more often. Once weekly would be nice.
So why cant Maintenance be done on a weekly basis? Other online games do weekly maintenance, why cant CF & patch the hacks each time. I wouldnt care if that meant all servers down each Sunday night for several hours. It would dramatically reduce hackers & certainly enough money is being generated to afford this. And actually thered be more players spending more money since they could actually play the damn game.
Hacks have been wayyyyyy out of control lately. First hack I saw less then 24 hours after Hero Mode patch. 2-3 days later I saw maybe a few. 1-1.5 weeks after patch hackers were already all over the place running rampant and have been ever since. This is really just unacceptable when there are 2,3,4 hackers in every damn game.
And yes play with friends, clan, other servers blah blah blah blah, those of you thats all you can say - SAVE IT. Thats not a solution. And Delta server seems hardly ever very many people playing there any more. Often times not even enough to make a full room. And Hacks still happen a lot there, just not as often as Alpha & others, but still quite a lot.
So, wouldnt weekly maint. doing specifically hack patches dramatically reduce and better keep in check hacks? I think it would. And yes I know Z8 is the middle man you guys dont directly do the patches etc but still youre in the loop so whats the deal?
Hacks have been wayyyyyy out of control lately. First hack I saw less then 24 hours after Hero Mode patch. 2-3 days later I saw maybe a few. 1-1.5 weeks after patch hackers were already all over the place running rampant and have been ever since. This is really just unacceptable when there are 2,3,4 hackers in every damn game.
And yes play with friends, clan, other servers blah blah blah blah, those of you thats all you can say - SAVE IT. Thats not a solution. And Delta server seems hardly ever very many people playing there any more. Often times not even enough to make a full room. And Hacks still happen a lot there, just not as often as Alpha & others, but still quite a lot.
So, wouldnt weekly maint. doing specifically hack patches dramatically reduce and better keep in check hacks? I think it would. And yes I know Z8 is the middle man you guys dont directly do the patches etc but still youre in the loop so whats the deal?
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I suggested, seeing as how a haker told me changing your IP is like eating candy, We instead put several cookies hidden throughout users PCs that have to match up. (Just incase they find and change one) It would either say banned or Safe. These cookies would not be deleted upon Un-Install. Meaning they would literally have to reformat their entire computer just to play CF again.
Also They should make servers that are stricktly LT & Above though I've seem ppl above that rank hack before. Also shouldn't they be watching players in the top 10 Clans? The #1 Clan in CF Destruders or w/e has a player called General_BR And I've personally had to kick him out of over 100 games this month alone because he one shot kills and wall hakz in GM.
And where were these GM rooms they said to look out for? How would we even believe that they were GMs? They'd have to have their names a different color or something. But Z8 ignores us.
I had a few ppl saying they want to start a site for pro players and ppl who just hate hackers in general. Upon signing up, You refuse to buy ZP until this is fixed. And shouldn't CF Mods realize when ppl use a ZP hack? They all of a sudden have over $6000 in ZP yet the money never shows up?
Some people even think CF is personally selling their source code to these hacker sights. After all they can't reverse engineer a game without the source code. -
I don't think putting cookies like this in people's computers is legalI suggested, seeing as how a haker told me changing your IP is like eating candy, We instead put several cookies hidden throughout users PCs that have to match up. (Just incase they find and change one) It would either say banned or Safe. These cookies would not be deleted upon Un-Install. Meaning they would literally have to reformat their entire computer just to play CF again.
Also They should make servers that are stricktly LT & Above though I've seem ppl above that rank hack before. Also shouldn't they be watching players in the top 10 Clans? The #1 Clan in CF Destruders or w/e has a player called General_BR And I've personally had to kick him out of over 100 games this month alone because he one shot kills and wall hakz in GM.
And where were these GM rooms they said to look out for? How would we even believe that they were GMs? They'd have to have their names a different color or something. But Z8 ignores us.
I had a few ppl saying they want to start a site for pro players and ppl who just hate hackers in general. Upon signing up, You refuse to buy ZP until this is fixed. And shouldn't CF Mods realize when ppl use a ZP hack? They all of a sudden have over $6000 in ZP yet the money never shows up?
Some people even think CF is personally selling their source code to these hacker sights. After all they can't reverse engineer a game without the source code.
Rank hack does not exist
Prove that he walls
About ZP hack
Well you will enjoy your ZP for 1 day
Then when Z8Games/G4Box check their income they will find out you paid nothing or done no survey
So your account will be banned
All that vids in Youtube are obviously editede
LT+?
No
Why high ranked ones would play hack free while low ranked will play with all the hackers
That's a giant NO
OH the rank hack you are talking about is FARMING
They shoot afk's and get the exp
So get your facts straight before commenting
Oh and program that cookie and then speak
Cookies can be deleted fairly easy
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Find this program and pay for it for us to usethen i suggest getting a new program. Xtrap sucks. They patch something then right away i see another hack.
Switching is not that easy
It's not like buy-install-enjoy
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Its a matter of getting the patch done and ready to distribute... if XTrap could patch everyday, it would..
Right. And I wonder why they dont. Just for example I used to play WoW, theyd do maintenance once every week. Sure were not talking WoW money here, but surely it cant be overly expensive to commit the time, man power & resources to performing a weekly maintenance considering the amount of revenue thats get pulled in here between advertisements, surveys & ZP buyers. Which of course, no I havnt reviewed Z8's fiscal finance report lately but Ill take a good guess & say, its a lot.
And cant Z8 renegotiate the terms with xtrap and have them step up maintenance for them to once per week? And really think about it, if this game were more stable, meaning a huge reduced number of hack-ers as I believe there would be, so many players would stop leaving. SO many more new players that try out CF would actually stay with it cuz the game is very good otherwise & more people all around would buy more ZP more often. Win - win situation for everyone.
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then i suggest getting a new program. Xtrap sucks. They patch something then right away i see another hack.
Ive been playing CF for a couple years now, in general Id say that, after patches in general, hacks dont usually show up for at least 3-5 days & only start to get out of control anywhere from a week to 2 weeks after each patch. Lately for some reason they showed up much much faster this time after this last patch. But overall usually its at least a good week before it get problematic. So I think a weekly maintenance/hacker patch would be a good thing for everyone. -
then i suggest getting a new program. Xtrap sucks. They patch something then right away i see another hack.
It doesnt work like that at the snap of the fingers... Theyre on a contract with XTrap.. they cant just cancel it ata whim.. XTrap is one of the better F2P AntiCheats...TimStryker wrote: »Right. And I wonder why they dont. Just for example I used to play WoW, theyd do maintenance once every week. Sure were not talking WoW money here, but surely it cant be overly expensive to commit the time, man power & resources to performing a weekly maintenance considering the amount of revenue thats get pulled in here between advertisements, surveys & ZP buyers. Which of course, no I havnt reviewed Z8's fiscal finance report lately but Ill take a good guess & say, its a lot.
And cant Z8 renegotiate the terms with xtrap and have them step up maintenance for them to once per week? And really think about it, if this game were more stable, meaning a huge reduced number of hack-ers as I believe there would be, so many players would stop leaving. SO many more new players that try out CF would actually stay with it cuz the game is very good otherwise & more people all around would buy more ZP more often. Win - win situation for everyone.
So I wonder, is this not a plausible idea?
No it isnt.
MMORPG maintenence isnt primarily for patching hacks... it is for a number of things from added content for F2P ones and sbetter server stability and general maintenance..
You seem to be seriously misinformed about how things work.
XTrap are always working to patch hacks.. hackers are getting smarter... somewhat and appear to be making it more difficult to fix... as well as unknown foreign websites releasing hacks that we arent aware of... we need to present the hacks to them for the to fix...
It isnt a simple matter of "Theres a new hack.. lets magically make a patch for it out of nothing"
Its not about money at all... before you pull that out again -
Also people can't imagine how hard is for XTrap to find AND patch the hacks without disturbing the game[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »It doesnt work like that at the snap of the fingers... Theyre on a contract with XTrap.. they cant just cancel it ata whim.. XTrap is one of the better F2P AntiCheats...
No it isnt.
MMORPG maintenence isnt primarily for patching hacks... it is for a number of things from added content for F2P ones and sbetter server stability and general maintenance..
You seem to be seriously misinformed about how things work.
XTrap are always working to patch hacks.. hackers are getting smarter... somewhat and appear to be making it more difficult to fix... as well as unknown foreign websites releasing hacks that we arent aware of... we need to present the hacks to them for the to fix...
It isnt a simple matter of "Theres a new hack.. lets magically make a patch for it out of nothing"
Its not about money at all... before you pull that out again -
Hypernamer2 wrote: »Also people can't imagine how hard is for XTrap to find AND patch the hacks without disturbing the game
If a patch messes up then yes it will disturb the game... its happened before where it had to patch 3 times and rollback 3 times because it messed up and kept disconnecting people
Patches need to be properly tested aswell
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »
No it isnt.
MMORPG maintenance isnt primarily for patching hacks... it is for a number of things from added content for F2P ones and sbetter server stability and general maintenance..
You seem to be seriously misinformed about how things work.
XTrap are always working to patch hacks.. hackers are getting smarter... somewhat and appear to be making it more difficult to fix... as well as unknown foreign websites releasing hacks that we arent aware of... we need to present the hacks to them for the to fix...
It isnt a simple matter of "Theres a new hack.. lets magically make a patch for it out of nothing"
Its not about money at all... before you pull that out again
Seriously misinformed? No, I wouldnt put it so bluntly like that, thanks. No doubt you are more in the loop on this kinda stuff however so thanks for the insight. I would think hacking preventative measures would have to be a part of their weekly maint however, else hacking would have been a problem there as well & for the good couple years I played there, I never had probs with hacks, so they must have been doing something.
And free VS monthly membership cant account for all of that, cuz WoW dishes out free trial account like crazy wherein hackers could just as easily do their thing if they wanted & were able to.
And "It isnt a simple matter of "Theres a new hack.. lets magically make a patch for it out of nothing"
I thought thats what this new anti hack program is doing is tracing known elements of code used for hacks & logging them amongst other things. And why with that info couldnt that be forwarded to xtrap in a more streamlined manner for them to get to work on the code to implement it into the weekly patches to negate most or all of the current hacks being used? Again Im not a software engineer, Im simply asking. -
Some months ago, it took a while for these gu(/a)ys to "create" a new hack(after the old one got patched), then they released it and the hackrs needed to pay(the classic VIP hacks). This time was amazing, because hackrs were relatively rare. Some weeks later(mostly right before the next patch) some other gays released the crack for free. But nower days, almost every hack is completely free, and these programs are spreading like CANCER. The free hacks of former times were like only a "see ghosts" function, but since the 1hit is free aswell, there are about 5 hackrs in every room. The hacks shouldnt be published, things wouldnt have turned that worse then.
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I don't think that cancer spreads but anywayjackpotdeine wrote: »Some months ago, it took a while for these gu(/a)ys to "create" a new hack(after the old one got patched), then they released it and the hackrs needed to pay(the classic VIP hacks). This time was amazing, because hackrs were relatively rare. Some weeks later(mostly right before the next patch) some other gays released the crack for free. But nower days, almost every hack is completely free, and these programs are spreading like CANCER. The free hacks of former times were like only a "see ghosts" function, but since the 1hit is free aswell, there are about 5 hackrs in every room. The hacks shouldnt be published, things wouldnt have turned that worse then.
VIP hacks still exist and all the 1 shooters are VIP
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3 ways to reduce hacking.
1. Bring back the ban list (Why delete it in the first place? It worked.)
2. 3 strikes and your out. 1st strike = 3 day ban, 2nd strike = 7 day ban, 3rd strike = perm ban.
3. Maximum of 3 CF accounts per IP address. If one account gets banned then the other accounts are placed on a black list.
Lets face it, ANYTHING is better than the current CF security system. Easily 3-4 hackers in each game..and the bad thing is, I'm not exaggerating that. -
[MOD]DDoTt wrote: »X-Trap is doing a great job. You would know if you played this game 2 years ago.
That is some rare statement of your that I can agree on.
I remember when the hero mode just released with the new autoban system, lots of players were kicked out of the game once flashed. x-trap never have similar problem. And every time they have a new release, we will have 1-2 happy days at least.
But you can not keep saying " it is x-trap's job to stop hackers", you know it is not a matter of money, it is a matter of time and effort -- to prevent bad from happening and keep the good working is hard.
So you should do more to deal with hackers after they ruin a game. Improve autoban or create other autoscan for hacking in replay, encourage players to take part into the campaign against hacker (just by rewarding some ribbon to the massive and precise reporter, it will ease the review job a lot), put slogans against hackers in game, and encourage use of vote system properly, by issue additional credit to the reporting for the correct kick vote.
And there are lots of other suggestions, the report/replay system can be improved, host ban list, for example, are also great. Clan honor ribbon can lead the clan in a right direction, and some other suggestion to change in vote system might also works.
Anyway, instead of denying the seriousness of hacking, just do something meaningful, like discuss the feasibility of suggestions, or polish some good idea up. Use the community's power before there is nothing can be used.
My impression, if not too offensive
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Just a little question... (i've never scripted my own hack...)
Isn't a hack a "code" which is always the same???
I mean, if an one-shot kill is getting patched and a new one appears, mustn't it be kinda the same code? if the code is floating too much away from the patched one, it wouldn't make it possible to "one-shoot" or am i wrong?
If im not, why isn't Z8Games just patching the code?
If the first, right report goes in, patch the code again and everything's done
Hope it'll work...
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »It doesnt work like that at the snap of the fingers... Theyre on a contract with XTrap.. they cant just cancel it ata whim.. XTrap is one of the better F2P AntiCheats...
No it isnt.
MMORPG maintenence isnt primarily for patching hacks... it is for a number of things from added content for F2P ones and sbetter server stability and general maintenance..
You seem to be seriously misinformed about how things work.
XTrap are always working to patch hacks.. hackers are getting smarter... somewhat and appear to be making it more difficult to fix... as well as unknown foreign websites releasing hacks that we arent aware of... we need to present the hacks to them for the to fix...
It isnt a simple matter of "Theres a new hack.. lets magically make a patch for it out of nothing"
Its not about money at all... before you pull that out againHypernamer2 wrote: »Find this program and pay for it for us to use
Switching is not that easy
It's not like buy-install-enjoy
It would be a Gigantic update and it's hard to do that
i know im just saying to consider some ther program that may be better. -
well they sometimes download a keylogger which haks their account so sometimes they basically ban themselves.Just a little question... (i've never scripted my own hack...)
Isn't a hack a "code" which is always the same???
I mean, if an one-shot kill is getting patched and a new one appears, mustn't it be kinda the same code? if the code is floating too much away from the patched one, it wouldn't make it possible to "one-shoot" or am i wrong?
If im not, why isn't Z8Games just patching the code?
If the first, right report goes in, patch the code again and everything's done
Hope it'll work...
Greetz. -
Just a little question... (i've never scripted my own hack...)
Isn't a hack a "code" which is always the same???
I mean, if an one-shot kill is getting patched and a new one appears, mustn't it be kinda the same code? if the code is floating too much away from the patched one, it wouldn't make it possible to "one-shoot" or am i wrong?
If im not, why isn't Z8Games just patching the code?
If the first, right report goes in, patch the code again and everything's done
Hope it'll work...
Greetz.
It doesnt always work like that
for example an aimbot script will make the user target a specific point on a players hitbox.. specifically the head.. its obviously more complicated that that but the code in the game for that cant really be changed... same goes for 1 shotters... it increases the users damage output.. that code isnt in the game.
Others such as the box hack about a year ago, was fixable by changing code... im not saying what the exploitable code was but it was removed and now all hacks relating to that will never work -
Hypernamer2 wrote: »I don't think putting cookies like this in people's computers is legal
Rank hack does not exist
Prove that he walls
About ZP hack
Well you will enjoy your ZP for 1 day
Then when Z8Games/G4Box check their income they will find out you paid nothing or done no survey
So your account will be banned
All that vids in Youtube are obviously editede
LT+?
No
Why high ranked ones would play hack free while low ranked will play with all the hackers
That's a giant NO
OH the rank hack you are talking about is FARMING
They shoot afk's and get the exp
So get your facts straight before commenting
Oh and program that cookie and then speak
Cookies can be deleted fairly easy
Just needs some research
Don't be so quick to assume I don't know what I'm saying because when I said High ranked Hacker I meant (High Ranked Hacker) as in someone with a high rank that hacks. And I know what farming is Imma 5th LT. And how would it be illegal to put cookies on a computer?Websites do it all the time. And if there was an issue with it Z8 could always make a disclaimer. So please don't try to put me down when U obviously have no clue what ur talking about. Maybe you should do some research.
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