.416 Barrett

The .50 cal Barrett isn't coming to CF NA. I get that. I'm glad that it's not, since it would be way to powerful, especially in Mutation Mode. However, I'm a big fan of Barrett rifles, and it seems pointless to not use an already made skin of a popular gun because of it's strength, when toning down the power would be simple enough to do.
Basically, most people think of Barrett rifles as shooting the massive .50 BGM round. However, Barrett also offers a smaller, extremely well designed .416 caliber round. It's casing is very similar to the .50 BMG in size, but the bullet is a good amount smaller for increased speed and accuracy, and Barrett rifles need only a simple barrel change to fire it. The .416 Barrett lacks the sheer stopping power that the .50 caliber BGM offers, and is more suited for soft targets than the .50 which can tear through an engine block, so it would be more suited for Crossfire.
If a sniper rifle that shot Barrett .416 was put in the game, it's damage would be realistically not too much more than the .338 Lapua used by the AWM. If the base damage was set at about 1.5 that of the AWM, with only the leg multiplier lowered to a 2hk, it would not be overpowered in the competitive community. With the slower movement and firing rate than the AWM, and the only benefit being a 2hk through a box instead of 3hk, plus a 5 round Magazine (5/20 sound good?) instead of the ZP-AWM's 10, it would not be overpowered in normal gameplay but still add some variety to sniping.
In Mutation Hero mode, the slower firing rate, walking speed and less ammo compared to ZP-AWM's would make the Barrett little more effective than the AWM in terms of damage per second, and only slightly more powerful during times when only one shot can be taken. Not overpowered, but it would still be the mode it does relatively the best it, and to an even lesser extent than the Gatling Gun which basically sucks in most game modes but is the noun form of "epic" in Mutation.
Also, snipers are already at a disadvantage in HM/MM, and a bolt action sniper that body shots for 200 or less damage every few seconds (which is assuming you hit every shot) really wouldn't offer more average damage than your standard assault rifle; it would just be more effective long range and less effective up close. Not to mention that a sniper with a Barrett running from mutants ...isn't. He's inching his way across the map slightly faster than someone spinning a Gatling Gun.
Bottom line, the Barrett could be implemented in CrossFire and still offer the look and feel of a high damage BFG, without being overpowered. Listed as using the .416 Barrett bullet in a 5 round mag, it would actually be slightly less effective than the ZP versions of the AWM in most game modes, and merely the sniper of choice in Mutation. If nothing else, it would be one of the few practical alternatives to the AWM, which is basically the only sniper that sees any type of even remotely competitive play.
TL;DR: Barrett with a smaller round, less damage than the .50 caliber, similar to AWM in most game types, and not overpowered.
Thoughts?
_________

I'm not antisocial, I'm introspective...
Comments
-
hmm i think it must come but not that u can buy it on bm or storage or with bp weapon.
i think it would be good if they put randomly same as they do as hero.
my toughts for dmg on barret yes it should be a powerfull then awm but recoil higher then dsr.i did played zombie mode on cod4 and i had many times barrett well recoil is higher as i did tough but power of it is epic.
I didnt know how much he can deal dmg but i can say if it comes to crossfire who ever holds it he will be main player who must be defended in cf.So hell yea for barrett
-
If it was put in the game, it would actually be a bolt action sniper rifle, not a semi-auto like it is in some CoD games. There's already a skin for it in foreign versions of CF, but the developers don't want to put it in our Crossfire because it's way too powerful (1hk through boxes, 500 body shots to mutants, ect.) and would cause balance issues, even if it can only fire every couple seconds. Thanks for the support though, Barrett rifles are awesome.
-
xSengchanhx wrote: »The AWM in our game uses a .300 Winchester Magnum which is a weaker round than .338 Lapua!
<
Whoops, my bad. O.o The .338 is usually more common for the AWM but you're right, in the weapons guide on the site it says it's the .300 Winchseter. Still. those two rounds aren't much different in size.
Here, I found large image with several bullets all lined up and PhotoShopped out all the other rounds:
From left to right: .300 Winchester, .338 Lapua, .416 Barrett, .50 BMG. -
sandwichROAR wrote: »Whoops, my bad. O.o The .338 is usually more common for the AWM but you're right, in the weapons guide on the site it says it's the .300 Winchseter. Still. those two rounds aren't much different in size.
Here, I found large image with several bullets all lined up and PhotoShopped out all the other rounds:
From left to right: .300 Winchester, .338 Lapua, .416 Barrett, .50 BMG.
look at the bullet width, the .300 winchester has way less powder compared to the .338 lapua, also, the bullet on the lapua is bigger, as the name says. -
look at the bullet width, the .300 winchester has way less powder compared to the .338 lapua, also, the bullet on the lapua is bigger, as the name says.
I don't want to go off topic arguing about bullet sizes guys, all I'm saying is that either round the AWM uses is less powerful than the Barrett .416, which in turn is less powerful than the .50 BMG used by the Barrett in other versions of CrossFire. It's a decently large bullet, which could be programmed to do 200 damage or so in the chest but not kill with a leg shot, which would be fun to shoot but not overpowered in any mode because of the Barrett's extremely slow firing rate.
Bullet damage in Crossfire isn't perfectly realistic, either: if it was, M12s would do M9 damage, M60's would tear people apart with the same bullets used by sniper rifles, ect. But realism doesn't always mean fun or balanced, so budging the numbers a little bit makes games more enjoyable to play. Plus, saying that the one .416 Barrett round has enough energy to kill ~2 people with body shots isn't really that far off: the amount of energy transfered with one .416 bullet is around 6 times that of the 5.56x42, the round used by the M16 or M4A1. -
sandwichROAR wrote: »I don't want to go off topic arguing about bullet sizes guys, all I'm saying is that either round the AWM uses is less powerful than the Barrett .416, which in turn is less powerful than the .50 BMG used by the Barrett in other versions of CrossFire. It's a decently large bullet, which could be programmed to do 200 damage or so in the chest but not kill with a leg shot, which would be fun to shoot but not overpowered in any mode because of the Barrett's extremely slow firing rate.
Bullet damage in Crossfire isn't perfectly realistic, either: if it was, M12s would do M9 damage, M60's would tear people apart with the same bullets used by sniper rifles, ect. But realism doesn't always mean fun or balanced, so budging the numbers a little bit makes games more enjoyable to play. Plus, saying that the one .416 Barrett round has enough energy to kill ~2 people with body shots isn't really that far off: the amount of energy transfered with one .416 bullet is around 6 times that of the 5.56x42, the round used by the M16 or M4A1.
make it kill 4 people with 1 shot!
LOL
epic trail shoots all the way ftw :x -
Hypernamer2 wrote: »Similar to the Barrett 98 Bravo I suggested
But the 98B uses .338 Lapua
True, but there's already a skin of the Barrett M82 in the in other versions of Crossfire. And it looks epiiiic!

Although in this version it's mislabeled as the M99, which is actually only a single shot rifle (no magazine) in real life, lulz. =P
The M82 is actually semi automatic though, so to my knowledge there's no completely identical real-world counterpart. It appears to have the body of an M82, but must be manually re-coc.ked (silly filters) after each shot. On the actual Barrett M82 it would only be necessary to bull the bolt back before the first shot, and the recoil would automatically reset the firing pin for follow-up shots. Maybe it was based off an M82 with a malfunctioning bullet feed?
-
sandwichROAR wrote: »True, but there's already a skin of the Barrett M82 in the in other versions of Crossfire. And it looks epiiiic!


Although in this version it's mislabeled as the M99, which is actually only a single shot rifle (no magazine) in real life, lulz. =P
The M82 is actually semi automatic though, so to my knowledge there's no completely identical real-world counterpart. It appears to have the body of an M82, but must be manually re-coc.ked (silly filters) after each shot. On the actual Barrett M82 it would only be necessary to bull the bolt back before the first shot, and the recoil would automatically reset the firing pin for follow-up shots. Maybe it was based off an M82 with a malfunctioning bullet feed?
Ya, Barrett M99 is a single-shoot gun, and it costs nearly $4300 to buy it I think o_O, it should be the Barrett M95, which is bolt-action and has a magazine! And they made the Barrett M82A1 in CF China bolt-action! Should be semi! Unless they didn't want to make it OP'd, but it already is! -
sandwichROAR wrote: »True, but there's already a skin of the Barrett M82 in the in other versions of Crossfire. And it looks epiiiic!


Although in this version it's mislabeled as the M99, which is actually only a single shot rifle (no magazine) in real life, lulz. =P
The M82 is actually semi automatic though, so to my knowledge there's no completely identical real-world counterpart. It appears to have the body of an M82, but must be manually re-coc.ked (silly filters) after each shot. On the actual Barrett M82 it would only be necessary to bull the bolt back before the first shot, and the recoil would automatically reset the firing pin for follow-up shots. Maybe it was based off an M82 with a malfunctioning bullet feed?
The skin looks too plain to me, meh... -
xSengchanhx wrote: »Ya, Barrett M99 is a single-shoot gun, and it costs nearly $4300 to buy it I think o_O, it should be the Barrett M95, which is bolt-action and has a magazine! And they made the Barrett M82A1 in CF China bolt-action! Should be semi! Unless they didn't want to make it OP'd, but it already is!
At first the Barrett in Crossfire seems like the M95, but theres a few differences. The bolt actions look and work a bit different (The M95 bolt needs to lock the new round in the barrel, while the one in Crossfire seems to just keep it pushed in place with a spring), and the M95 has a more compact design than the one in game. (The M95 is bullpup, meaning the magazine is behind the trigger in the stock. This lets you reduce the length of the gun by moving certain parts further back, while still allowing a long, accurate barrel)
I agree that it would have made more sense for the developers to make the weapon model for the M95 instead of the M82, it would have had a proper bolt action and been more realistic to carry around on a battlefield since the M95 is smaller and lighter. My guess is that they started working on an M82 model, but later realized how overpowered it would be. So instead of having to make a whole new model for a bolt action gun, they just tweaked the animations. It doesn't look or too much different than an M95 gun model would, and few people would know or even care that it's not 100% realistic.
Also, if it seems like I know a lot about guns, I can assure you that 90% of it is just copy-pasta from the first site that came up on Google.
No need to look into me, FBI, I'm just an innocent producer of copy-pasta... >.>
Categories
- All Categories
- Z8Games
- Off-Topic - Go To Game OT Forums
- 1 Z8 Forum Discussion & Suggestions
- 16 Z8Games Announcements
- Rules & Conduct
- 5.2K CrossFire
- 951 CrossFire Announcements
- 942 Previous Announcements
- 2 Previous Patch Notes
- 1.4K Community
- 122 Modes
- 600 Suggestions
- 85 Clan Discussion and Recruitment
- 274 CF Competitive Forum
- 19 CFCL
- 26 Looking for a Team?
- 700 CrossFire Support
- 52 Suggestion
- 116 Bugs
- 28 CrossFire Guides
- 166 Technical Issues
- 47 CrossFire Off Topic