Hardware ban

We need hardware ban now,,,, Do it Z8,,,,, Only way to stop hackers
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  • JihadJet wrote: »
    We need hardware ban now,,,, Do it Z8,,,,, Only way to stop hackers

    Do it...............
  • Sry that i aske so ******ed but whats Hardwear Ban ?
    Is it like ip Ban ???
  • PopeyezZzz wrote: »
    Sry that i aske so ******ed but whats Hardwear Ban ?
    Is it like ip Ban ???

    You can't play CrossFire on your whole computer system
  • Thx
    Yeah we Need it for all this hakers at the Moment Way to much....
    Hardware Ban is the only way to stop them
  • You can't play CrossFire on your whole computer system

    i also hate hackers, but if someone has this ban he can just format his PC and the ban is away
  • JihadJet wrote: »
    We need hardware ban now,,,, Do it Z8,,,,, Only way to stop hackers

    This is very ludicrous... you're saying for example that if I were to hack, they would toss my computer and monitor in the stony lonesome? O.o Everyone here knows the difference between hardware and software right?
  • 0Mastema0 wrote: »
    This is very ludicrous... you're saying for example that if I were to hack, they would toss my computer and monitor in the stony lonesome? O.o Everyone here knows the difference between hardware and software right?

    It means they save the MAC address of components in your computer, and if those try and log on, you'll be denied. You will only be denied from crossfire nowhere else.
  • iNickftw wrote: »
    i also hate hackers, but if someone has this ban he can just format his PC and the ban is away

    but no one is stupid enough to do that
  • iNickftw wrote: »
    i also hate hackers, but if someone has this ban he can just format his PC and the ban is away

    NOPE not that easy....
    To circumvent a hardware ban, you will have to replace several hardware components:

    Every machine has a serial ID that is hashed from the 4 main components that have identifiable hardware codes:

    the CPU stepping ID (All are unique and are contained in the same STRAP address regardless Intel or AMD)
    the NIC MAC address (All are unique and contained in the same IRQ resource address)
    the Motherboard Revision number (Not unique, but added for additional granularity, located in the Shadow ROM CMOS)
    the Hard Drive Manufacture date (Not unique, but added for additional granularity, located in the ROM chip)

    WindowsXP uses a LUT method for hashing those 4 ID codes into something that is called a Hash Key.
  • ^^^^^^^^^ With that said.. If Z8 would get serious on hackers.. This would make you have to get a new computer to play on.. Or replace all the componenets... But I think they will never do it.... Because hackers bring money to the table.........Its time to start hardware ban Z8
  • It's against the terms of service that Z8Games put out. I remember a suggestion like this a while ago, and a specific member of the community copied and pasted a whole section in the old ToS on an older version of this version before stuff began to get updated.

    It would be practical, but it's a bit of crossing the line. Hackers get banned, sure people can say "Once a hacker, always a hacker." but what's the truth? People make mistakes and recover from them.
  • HitK wrote: »
    It's against the terms of service that Z8Games put out. I remember a suggestion like this a while ago, and a specific member of the community copied and pasted a whole section in the old ToS on an older version of this version before stuff began to get updated.

    It would be practical, but it's a bit of crossing the line. Hackers get banned, sure people can say "Once a hacker, always a hacker." but what's the truth? People make mistakes and recover from them.
    I have 3 friends that use to hack.
    And are legitly, legit at gaming, like legit.
  • HitK wrote: »
    It's against the terms of service that Z8Games put out. I remember a suggestion like this a while ago, and a specific member of the community copied and pasted a whole section in the old ToS on an older version of this version before stuff began to get updated.

    It would be practical, but it's a bit of crossing the line. Hackers get banned, sure people can say "Once a hacker, always a hacker." but what's the truth? People make mistakes and recover from them.

    Yea i agree. Ive had friends who were like "Hack Addicts" but when they realized what they were doing they stopped and now totally despise hacking. You can recover.
  • HitK wrote: »
    It's against the terms of service that Z8Games put out. I remember a suggestion like this a while ago, and a specific member of the community copied and pasted a whole section in the old ToS on an older version of this version before stuff began to get updated.

    It would be practical, but it's a bit of crossing the line. Hackers get banned, sure people can say "Once a hacker, always a hacker." but what's the truth? People make mistakes and recover from them.

    How can a hardware ban be against a TOS ? When they state that you cheat your ban.... Im just letting everyone know that they can ban hackers if they wanted too.. If they started this, this game could recover.... They dont do something... This game is doomed...........
  • Fine then lets make it easier for ppl who will actually stop
    if u dont have honorable soldier cuz u got caught with hxors no 2nd warning which isnt working flat out hardware
  • Lets not change the subject, the subject is: Hardware ban..................not my friend was a hacker now hes not..
  • VeX_xeD wrote: »
    Yea i agree. Ive had friends who were like "Hack Addicts" but when they realized what they were doing they stopped and now totally despise hacking. You can recover.

    There are hackers. There always will be. You destroy a group and another will take its place. Knowing that this is the case - a hardware ban is a complete waste of time, money, and resources. You have not solved the hacking problem - merely delayed it. The only use a hardware ban would be is to act as an intimidating factor to future groups of hackers. Ultimately, z8 games doesn't care about you or anyone else - they only want money. And when they waste time to permanently ban people that are potential Zp buyers it's not good for business. Case closed.
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  • they can't acess the info to hardware ban without previous consent, its against the therms.

    notgonnahappent.
  • the idea you give is quite good... doing something like the Windows Genuine Advantage blocking Serials... but the problem is this is a free game... u r breaking the rule of giving a free paid service... so, there we have the legal problem... the real solution is doing like a known RPG game... BLOCKING BR PUBLIC PINGS by cancelling all the IPs starting with (for example) 92.xx.***.xx.x even if they r dinamic, u r getting owned this noobs... :)
  • this game clean very easy banned ip country Brazil and Turk and problem is resolved.
  • u r breaking the rule of giving a free paid service...

    I dont see how.. When it says if you cheat the game your ban.... a Hardware ban is the only way to fix this problem...
  • HitK wrote: »
    People make mistakes and recover from them.

    Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen. If they know the punish is very limited, they will be back on the same way.

    And just get rid of their right to play this game is not killing them, on the other hand, they learned that in their real life, something is much easier to be messed up than to be built up.

    The only doubt about the feasibility is if it is against some strange privacy regulation?
  • JihadJet wrote: »
    We need hardware ban now,,,, Do it Z8,,,,, Only way to stop hackers

    Lol I've been building computers for a long time and I hate to say it but you need to be more specific cause no such thing as a hardware ban. They dont even ban Ip's so they should start there. I have suggest weekly server maint. that would include slight changes to the files that the hacks depend on. The best first step is hack prevention, giving x-trap/game watcher more time to update their definitions. But if i've said it once, i've said it 100 times z8 could care less.
  • Prodiac wrote: »
    Lol I've been building computers for a long time and I hate to say it but you need to be more specific cause no such thing as a hardware ban. They dont even ban Ip's so they should start there. I have suggest weekly server maint. that would include slight changes to the files that the hacks depend on. The best first step is hack prevention, giving x-trap/game watcher more time to update their definitions. But if i've said it once, i've said it 100 times z8 could care less.

    Yes you can hardware ban, go back to computer school.....
    To circumvent a hardware ban, you will have to replace several hardware components:

    Every machine has a serial ID that is hashed from the 4 main components that have identifiable hardware codes:

    the CPU stepping ID (All are unique and are contained in the same STRAP address regardless Intel or AMD)
    the NIC MAC address (All are unique and contained in the same IRQ resource address)
    the Motherboard Revision number (Not unique, but added for additional granularity, located in the Shadow ROM CMOS)
    the Hard Drive Manufacture date (Not unique, but added for additional granularity, located in the ROM chip)

    Banning one of them ^ or all would do the job.......
    p.s. I build computers too....
  • Alleth wrote: »
    It means they save the MAC address of components in your computer, and if those try and log on, you'll be denied. You will only be denied from crossfire nowhere else.

    Some people are clueless to what a "hardware ban" is.

    If anything, we need a ping cap server + hardware ban to create the greatest playing society and enviroment in the video game world.
  • Where are the Mods on this.... Something strange going on here, Not 1 Mod has respond to any post in afew days?
    Maybe they have given up... Z8 give us Hardware bans, are explain why you cant do it??? This sounds great to me......