Buff!
First, the scar-h!
Why?
well, let's take a look at one picture:

as you can see, the image has the comparisson of 3 kinds of cartridges, the 5.56x45mm NATO, the 7.62X39mm and the 7.62x51 NATO...
you'll may find this strange, but, the russian AK-47 round is smaller than that 7.62x51mm round, maybe it's used by a sniper rifle isn't it?
well, it is used by the FN SCAR-Heavy (Mk 17), so, think about it for a second, isn't the statuses a little messed up?
Yes, it's right! The FN SCAR-Heavy uses powerfuller rounds than the AK-47!
But, the in-game satus says that the SCAR-Heavy is weaker than the AK-47, well, isn't it fair to buff it's power to a 2-hit chest kill?
since the round is used by the PSG-1 too, impressive isn't it? ;P
Second:
The micro-galil problem.
It ISN'T a SMG, it uses the rifle cartridge 5.62x45mm NATO, as specified in it's profile page on CF guides:
Well, as we can see, it shoots the same cartridge as the famous m4a1:
Strange isn't it?
Third:
The m12s problem! :O
Starting from the Power problem, it uses the fooking 9x19mm cartridge (accordingly to the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M12), and accordling to the in-game mall comparisson, it has the same power as a m4a1, wich fires teh 5.56x45mm cartridge...
and it fires at 550 rounds/min...
well, it's strange, in-game it fires almost at the same rate as the p90! Wich fires in real life at 900 rounds/min! (check the wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90), isn't that strange? :eek:
Also, take a look at the weights, the p90 have a weight of 3kg while loaded, the m12s weights 3.2kg, unloaded...
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LOL, just found this:
give your opinions...
Why?
well, let's take a look at one picture:

as you can see, the image has the comparisson of 3 kinds of cartridges, the 5.56x45mm NATO, the 7.62X39mm and the 7.62x51 NATO...
you'll may find this strange, but, the russian AK-47 round is smaller than that 7.62x51mm round, maybe it's used by a sniper rifle isn't it?
well, it is used by the FN SCAR-Heavy (Mk 17), so, think about it for a second, isn't the statuses a little messed up?
Yes, it's right! The FN SCAR-Heavy uses powerfuller rounds than the AK-47!
But, the in-game satus says that the SCAR-Heavy is weaker than the AK-47, well, isn't it fair to buff it's power to a 2-hit chest kill?
since the round is used by the PSG-1 too, impressive isn't it? ;P
Second:
The micro-galil problem.
It ISN'T a SMG, it uses the rifle cartridge 5.62x45mm NATO, as specified in it's profile page on CF guides:
and you can chek it in here:http://crossfire.z8games.com/guide_weapons_primary_submachine_guns.aspxMicro-Galil
>SPECIFICATIONS
Manufacturer:Israel Military Industries
Origin:Israel
Cartridge:5.56x45mm NATO
Firing modes:Selective Fire
Availability:In-game
>DESCRIPTION
It is a novel variant of the Galil that Israel Special Forces are currently using. Well known for its
high power.
Well, as we can see, it shoots the same cartridge as the famous m4a1:
Well, asides for some differences because of the systems used, they generate almost the same energy when fired, so, the micro-galil would have to do almost the same damage as the m4a1, a little more, since there's not much barrel to take away energy from the bullet.M4A1
>SPECIFICATIONS
Manufacturer:Colt Defense.
Origin:United States
Cartridge:5.56x45mm NATO
Firing modes:Fully-Automatic
Availability:In-Game Item Shop / Black Market
>DESCRIPTION
A small U.S. military rifle with high stability and accuracy.
Strange isn't it?
Third:
The m12s problem! :O
Starting from the Power problem, it uses the fooking 9x19mm cartridge (accordingly to the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M12), and accordling to the in-game mall comparisson, it has the same power as a m4a1, wich fires teh 5.56x45mm cartridge...
and it fires at 550 rounds/min...
well, it's strange, in-game it fires almost at the same rate as the p90! Wich fires in real life at 900 rounds/min! (check the wikipedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90), isn't that strange? :eek:
Also, take a look at the weights, the p90 have a weight of 3kg while loaded, the m12s weights 3.2kg, unloaded...
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LOL, just found this:
m12s
Brazil: Made under license by Taurus.[5][6] Standard submachine gun of the Brazilian Army where it is designated M972
give your opinions...
Comments
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MisterDerp wrote: »This game isn't like that new Medal of Honor game. It's not as realistic as any other game should be.. Heck it's a CS:S Replica..
Thanks for the Info, but honestly we just need to nerf the M12s..
buff the scar-h....
and the micro-galil... -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »But the M16 and Winchester. They're supposed to be way more kick ass.
the m16 would be accurater than the m4a1, and the winchester would pull a hole out of anything in a AR range (50~200 meters) ._.
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That's the description of the .30-30, the cartridge used by the lever action model 1894 winchester rifle ._.The .30-30 is considered to be the "entry-class" for modern deer cartridges. While it will take deer- and black bear-sized game, it is limited in effective range to approximately 200 yards (183 m) for that purpose. -
Heh, i found out some other interesting facts of the small cartridges, accordingly to the power generated by these cartridges, the scale of power in pure flesh would be:
.50 action express (2,200 J (1,600 ft·lbf)) - Desert eagle
.44 magnum (2,078 J (1,533 ft·lbf)) - Anaconda
9x19mm parabellum (704 J (519 ft·lbf)) - Glock18/beretta m9/MP5/m12s/p228/uzi
.45 ACP (702 J (518 ft·lbf)) - Kriss super V/Thompson/colt 1911
5.7x28mm (540 J (400 ft·lbf)) - P90
4.6x30mm (469 J (346 ft·lbf)) - MP7
The powers are messed up a little, but we need to see how each calliber acts in contact with meat ._. -
Brazil: Made under license by Taurus.[5][6] Standard submachine gun of the Brazilian Army where it is designated M972
This. The M12s is made by BR for BR. Thus it's OP. BRs = OP guns.
(P.S.: You're not BR. No. I refuse to belive it. NO YOU'RE NOT >.<)
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