Again my old simple suggestion, please push up
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A button to be pressed to confirm respawn.
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If hacker inside and no one start to vote kick him, we can choose to stay dead till hacker got bored, or his teammate realize they should vote kick him.
If vote kick going on, it is the time a player must press f11 or f12 after their death and before you can press that button.
To make the change create revenue, z8 can put slogan and AD there. Say, www.visit-us-get-free-hacks.com. And above the respawn button, add, "do you really want to continue playing"? This is not my idea, someone said he want put ad on his backpack.
And you might consider add reviews of previous play here.
This works for TDM at least.
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Publish know hacker
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Ban faster, and publish it, or just get in game (don't wear you [GM] tag) and ban hackers in game, and then announce it. It is ok to lose one or two customer when they are trying to ruin your business.
Nowadays even you banned, no one knows it. Legit player complain, and hackers think they are not disliked. Do not wait till the hackers become majority and things are out of control.
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Find source of hack
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Guess how they pay their host (I know godaddy.com need $, even though they have promotion)? Common sense and personal opinion, the x-trap are most suspective because of the reason their business exists.
For z8games, when hacker pay to them, they will not pay to you.
Don't expect too much on the autoban system. Like antivirus software, if it has too many false positive, you will get into more trouble. If it has low detection rate, it never works. And how many you will spend to update it in regular cases.
Instead, start a campaign in community to fight against hackers.
A button to be pressed to confirm respawn.
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If hacker inside and no one start to vote kick him, we can choose to stay dead till hacker got bored, or his teammate realize they should vote kick him.
If vote kick going on, it is the time a player must press f11 or f12 after their death and before you can press that button.
To make the change create revenue, z8 can put slogan and AD there. Say, www.visit-us-get-free-hacks.com. And above the respawn button, add, "do you really want to continue playing"? This is not my idea, someone said he want put ad on his backpack.
And you might consider add reviews of previous play here.
This works for TDM at least.
===========================
Publish know hacker
===========================
Ban faster, and publish it, or just get in game (don't wear you [GM] tag) and ban hackers in game, and then announce it. It is ok to lose one or two customer when they are trying to ruin your business.
Nowadays even you banned, no one knows it. Legit player complain, and hackers think they are not disliked. Do not wait till the hackers become majority and things are out of control.
===========================
Find source of hack
===========================
Guess how they pay their host (I know godaddy.com need $, even though they have promotion)? Common sense and personal opinion, the x-trap are most suspective because of the reason their business exists.
For z8games, when hacker pay to them, they will not pay to you.
Don't expect too much on the autoban system. Like antivirus software, if it has too many false positive, you will get into more trouble. If it has low detection rate, it never works. And how many you will spend to update it in regular cases.
Instead, start a campaign in community to fight against hackers.
Comments
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No, no, no, no, no. The only thing the first one would be good for is for idle people that had to leave the computer really quick.
And most of the hacks aren't software anymore; they're scripts written up and planted in the CF folder to change the settings of the game. -
Frenchboy779 wrote: »The only thing the first one would be good for is for idle people that had to leave the computer really quick.
No no, I would say that button can help alot.
We can go to the restroom for a while without being killed by base ****r -- otherwise, you will die alot after you answer a phone.
We can chat to keep us not kicked.
We can force hackers out or the hacker benefiter consider to kick the hacker.
We can force those who do not read screen vote.
z8games can have more chance to advertise. They can suggest life insurance before respawn. And they can make it funny.
And the button is not hard (no need for a database). It is simply a client side thing. And it bothers no one.
There are lots of expansion can be done during this period. Players can change characters, weapons, gears, or even start the hacking code.
Did I say it makes farming harder? -
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RawrJafrikan wrote: »Can i mention that although your suggestions sound great, the lack of description as well as obvious grammatical errors show that you either dont speak english or speak it as a second language.
Learn english first please before making a thread!!
You can't ask everyone to learn english before posting, the post is readable enough, so why don't you just read it and comment instead of complaining about it?
OT:
First suggestion: It is rather unlikely that (if this would be added) an entire team would stay down. There are always the smart ones that think legit players hack and don't see what's wrong with someone who is obviously aimbotting/under the map.
It also offers a nice chance for abuse: let's say you need to be in 6 games of Train TD for a daily: just enter the game, die once, alt tab out and go do your homework or something. You don't get kicked for being afk when dead (unless voted), so you can finish the daily without actually doing anything.
Another problem: those smart ones I mentioned before will remain down, because they are continuously convinced that at least 1 opponent is hacking. Other people that might stay down are those being spawncamped. In both cases it will make the game rather one-sided and thus unfair...
2nd suggestion: There was a ban list and it was removed because people would keep checking the list and complaining that players X and Y were not on it yet while they were "obviously hacking". (You might want to read this thread) -
Frenchboy779 wrote: »No, no, no, no, no. The only thing the first one would be good for is for idle people that had to leave the computer really quick.
And most of the hacks aren't software anymore; they're scripts written up and planted in the CF folder to change the settings of the game.
u would know -
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A button to be pressed to confirm respawn.
==========================
If hacker inside and no one start to vote kick him, we can choose to stay dead till hacker got bored, or his teammate realize they should vote kick him.
If vote kick going on, it is the time a player must press f11 or f12 after their death and before you can press that button.
To make the change create revenue, z8 can put slogan and AD there. Say, www.visit-us-get-free-hacks.com. And above the respawn button, add, "do you really want to continue playing"? This is not my idea, someone said he want put ad on his backpack.
And you might consider add reviews of previous play here.
This works for TDM at least.
===========================
Publish know hacker
===========================
Ban faster, and publish it, or just get in game (don't wear you [GM] tag) and ban hackers in game, and then announce it. It is ok to lose one or two customer when they are trying to ruin your business.
Nowadays even you banned, no one knows it. Legit player complain, and hackers think they are not disliked. Do not wait till the hackers become majority and things are out of control.
===========================
Find source of hack
===========================
Guess how they pay their host (I know godaddy.com need $, even though they have promotion)? Common sense and personal opinion, the x-trap are most suspective because of the reason their business exists.
For z8games, when hacker pay to them, they will not pay to you.
Don't expect too much on the autoban system. Like antivirus software, if it has too many false positive, you will get into more trouble. If it has low detection rate, it never works. And how many you will spend to update it in regular cases.
Instead, start a campaign in community to fight against hackers.Frenchboy779 wrote: »No, no, no, no, no. The only thing the first one would be good for is for idle people that had to leave the computer really quick.
And most of the hacks aren't software anymore; they're scripts written up and planted in the CF folder to change the settings of the game.
good idea .. i supposeIt will get abused. Noobs will stop respawning until the best player gets kicked.
true .. but least we can stop ha.ckers from hacking this game
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Phillybear wrote: »You can't ask everyone to learn english before posting, the post is readable enough, so why don't you just read it and comment instead of complaining about it?
OT:
First suggestion: It is rather unlikely that (if this would be added) an entire team would stay down. There are always the smart ones that think legit players hack and don't see what's wrong with someone who is obviously aimbotting/under the map.
It also offers a nice chance for abuse: let's say you need to be in 6 games of Train TD for a daily: just enter the game, die once, alt tab out and go do your homework or something. You don't get kicked for being afk when dead (unless voted), so you can finish the daily without actually doing anything.
Another problem: those smart ones I mentioned before will remain down, because they are continuously convinced that at least 1 opponent is hacking. Other people that might stay down are those being spawncamped. In both cases it will make the game rather one-sided and thus unfair...
2nd suggestion: There was a ban list and it was removed because people would keep checking the list and complaining that players X and Y were not on it yet while they were "obviously hacking". (You might want to read this thread)
You need keep chatting. Typing keeps you alive in game.
The smart ones might be theones who do not vote. So if they are brave enough and not care about their death, let them kill. It is not hard when 8 player shoot at him together, especially some of them have aimbot.
He will soon learn to ask why others would not respawn.
I think they need add reported date. If someone keeps question the decision, start a vote on the replay in forum. If many think it is not hacking, kick the QQer
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kubanakill wrote: »people have so many ideas to prevent hack.ers from playing.. IP ban sounds pretty effective.. no need to implement buttons, new patches, new voting rules or whatever people suggest..
IP ban has problem. Most ISP don't assign static IP to the residential services, instead, they use ip pool. Your IP might be different from week to week, day to day. If you happens to be assigned to an ip that has been banned because of hacking, z8 can not solve it. -
We can all talk about this....
or try and convince Saiden:
But all in all, its probably going to fail. Miserably.
Im still up for a IP ban, and Ghost, even though its possible that you could get assigned an ip that was banned, its very unlikely. VERY, and so although it might make one person not be able to play, the majority of the others should be able to.
Ping caped servers for 2 reaons: I hate laggers and the behavior they have toward NA/UK players and 2 because the game is meant for NA and UK, not countries ACCROSS the world. LITERALLY ACCROSS. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »We can all talk about this....
or try and convince Saiden:
That is a nice pic. Can GM see it?RawrJafrikan wrote: »Im still up for a IP ban, and Ghost, even though its possible that you could get assigned an ip that was banned, its very unlikely. VERY, and so although it might make one person not be able to play, the majority of the others should be able to.
Every attempt might fail. Similar to IP ban. Suppose ISP have 1000 ip in the pool, and 2 are banned. Every player connected to the local office has 0.2% chance to be assigned to that ip. And don't be happy with 99.8% chance to play, because hacker keeps add another ip to the ban list. If 20% of the ips in the pool are banned, the chance z8 to receive complains are very high, and they can not resolve it except white list the ip.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Ping caped servers for 2 reaons: I hate laggers and the behavior they have toward NA/UK players and 2 because the game is meant for NA and UK, not countries ACCROSS the world. LITERALLY ACCROSS.
They can limit the ping according to the statistics of the player' ping in the game, but to ask for a server for only 200- ping is not reasonable, because that will keep the server idle after NA's midnight. -
Don't expect too much on the autoban system. Like antivirus software, if it has too many false positive, you will get into more trouble. If it has low detection rate, it never works. And how many you will spend to update it in regular cases.
This freakin autoban system scare me! i was banned w/o using hack once, it was a 7 days ban and i got my acc back, but if this SHIET ban me again, i think it will be a perm ban
! (to a legit player) -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Ping caped servers for 2 reaons: I hate laggers and the behavior they have toward NA/UK players and 2 because the game is meant for NA and UK, not countries ACCROSS the world. LITERALLY ACCROSS.
We gave them more money than you! so shut up and stop QQing about BRs kickin your a$$ -
That is a nice pic. Can GM see it?
Why thank you!!!! Its complete satire showing the failure for you guys to see that this thread has been posted SEVERAL times. And yes, the GMs can see it. Im thinking about sending it to Giggletron as a joke. You people are that dumb, and some of you, would probably literally do anything, just to even be able to be in Saiden's presense.They can limit the ping according to the statistics of the player' ping in the game, but to ask for a server for only 200- ping is not reasonable, because that will keep the server idle after NA's midnight.
Its completly reasonable. This game is only licensed in NA and UK. THAT MEANS That it should be suited toward us and not toward those accross the world.We gave them more money than you! so shut up and stop QQing about BRs kickin your a$$
Wow. You really are dumb. I never said anything against BRs, and if youve been here for a while on the forums you should know that I dont dislike Brazilians.
Anyone with 200+ ping shouldnt be playing anyway. Can they not see that this game is CF CN, and not CF Portuguese or CF Japanese or CF Chinese? Im not attacking these groups, but why play, when you know that you will lag?
And No, your dumb as hell. NA players pay exponentially more than Brazilian counterparts. Ask Danah, supposedly has 5,000,000 bonus points. And that was like 4 months ago from what I hear. I hate you idiots who claim that the Brazilians are the gold pot for the game, when in reality, no one knows and the only evidence we can go by, is examples, such as Danah. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Why thank you!!!! Its complete satire showing the failure for you guys to see that this thread has been posted SEVERAL times. And yes, the GMs can see it. Im thinking about sending it to Giggletron as a joke. You people are that dumb, and some of you, would probably literally do anything, just to even be able to be in Saiden's presense.
I know what you want to do. But that is a good image and you should show to GMs, not us. Maybe they can easily read images.
And many just can not bear more and more hackers. So your strategy is saying nothing about it and keep trolling with some fancy features to attract players, others just want to keep the game still playable.
Again, if you can persuade the z8games by the saying, you are the hero.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Its completly reasonable. This game is only licensed in NA and UK. THAT MEANS That it should be suited toward us and not toward those accross the world.
z8games want the popularity, globally. Any games expect the same way.
So what is the point for them to run so many servers at night? For just a little midnight crew?RawrJafrikan wrote: »Anyone with 200+ ping shouldnt be playing anyway. Can they not see that this game is CF CN, and not CF Portuguese or CF Japanese or CF Chinese? Im not attacking these groups, but why play, when you know that you will lag?
It is harder for lagger to play the game. If they can bear the lag, why can't they play?RawrJafrikan wrote: »NA players pay exponentially more than Brazilian counterparts.
Ok, Even you think Brazilian pays, so why should z8 forbid them to play -- that need extra effort, and might be labelled "racism" to the company, and also reduces money the game makes, even though it might be small portion. So I just omit some emotional comment to you.
BTW, if you Brazilian never pays, z8games might still get some payment from the AD they supported.well if u don;t want get more negative k/d when a skilled player just joined a room u will still dead? till someone kick this skilled player? well i hope u can imagine what i try to say
I never stop playing when there are no hackers. Only hackers and noob host who make their shopping for minutes expel me from the room. For most of time, I can make a positive score when the other side have outnumbered good players (I am not sure they are the pros you said), you can always find a strategy to avoid expose yourself to several good gunner at the same time. 1 on 1? Even though they are pretty good, I still have chance to kill them, except they are hacker-like-good, so can you be that good?
Remember, after respawn we got 10sec's armor. And it is enough to shot one in head. And the worst thing is to camping in base by yourself. With the armor, you can at least kill one before you die.
If there is hacker, it is exception. You have no way to find them.im just tyring to get my post counts up. if i reach 1000. i get a ribbon
yay
If I want to do that, I would post much shorter and just with lol, yes, msg2short or whatever things. I need to to spend 1000 thousands word for 1 posts.
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And we are discussing some possibility here. Not simply complaining. This is a suggestion board right?
And I am not kinda person who feel honored to talk with GM. I respect them for their work, but they are normal people, they have their opinion that is not necessary to be right. -
We should have an in game report button in the player list and if a certain ammount of people report the person Auto ban should remove them from the room or give us the option to leave without penalty.
That is too easy to be abused and cause a legit players' honor robbin to be removed. It is the most meaningful one. -
I have a doubt about this:
if everybody have this button and they don't have a hacker on the room, just a regular player and they don't want to die for him, they will scape it at the same way.
And the regular players will be kicked cuz the other team will ask for his kick and his teammates won't have any option unless kick him out.
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