Dear Saiden/WOGL
22 Year old Mountain man here, Just wanted to say... You all are playing a political card, by this i mean. You defend your actions, after you have done them. You guide yourselves with a systematic approach. I understand that most people are not mature just as I suppose your like any company, out for profits. When the integrity of the creators is outweighed by the stress put on them, there becomes a gap in communication and a loss of quality in the ideas presented. Please be warned that you are employed by us, regardless of ownership. . . legalese. We register, we submit application but we do not have to govern ourselves by your rules, for the universe isn't guided by rules, only unspoken natural laws. Hope you feel my drift, it was intended to make you aware that this game isn't a "community" controlled game, when the choices only lay with you.
The sky is the limit, improve yourselves and we shall do the same, have a wonderful day!
The sky is the limit, improve yourselves and we shall do the same, have a wonderful day!
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What , you don`t understand?MegalodonSW wrote: »I don't understand that. Am I stupid?
He is a HUGE mountain man and he wants to bite Saidin `s ass and all the Z8 staff for not giving him satisfaction. He thinks like some others that Z8 means business first then if ever they can do something for the community then they will do the least . In fact the same angryness we encounter here , but in a different episode and version.;) -
GhostsBuster wrote: »What , you don`t understand?
He is a HUGE mountain man and he wants to bite Saidin `s ass and all the Z8 staff for not giving him satisfaction. He thinks like some others that Z8 means business first then if ever they can do something for the community then they will do the least . In fact the same angryness we encounter here , but in a different episode and version.;)
You made me even more confused lol -
GhostsBuster wrote: »What , you don`t understand?
He is a HUGE mountain man and he wants to bite Saidin `s ass and all the Z8 staff for not giving him satisfaction. He thinks like some others that Z8 means business first then if ever they can do something for the community then they will do the least . In fact the same angryness we encounter here , but in a different episode and version.;)
Oh, I think I understand know. Mountainman = Cavetroll?
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hahaha you have seen well in what he tried to say . But he is the one who thinks that when he spend his money he thinks that they should follow his rules .if you're trying to make a point then you need to try harder. try using words you master.
sorry, yes you do follow their rules. just as you follow the rules of the universe (yes, there are some)
Resuming " we are the one who give you money , then you must give us what we ask and not give us what you want "( WE stand for the Community and YOU stand for Saidin , Z8 and Co.). -
No you do not understand the basic principles. We the players essentially "work" for z8games, whether you put a dime of your money in or not, you most likely spend time playing. In doing so, you should have a say in what new ideas are brought to this game and the degrees to which they are enforced.
You can always hack, you will always be able to, so long as the developers are on an even playing field with the "others." Systems are built to work in this way, all I am saying is when do we make a compromise... Do we hack until there is no community, do we ban everyone even if were playing fair. WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE & FIND BALANCE!
When did competitive gaming become a control grid for power, when large numbers of people showed interest. If you want to complain about 2000 people signing up for a tourney... HIRE 10 more people and have a 10,000 man tournament over and done with in half the time, don't string it out for 2 months. . . Where is the competitive nature in that? This game is just like Counter strike and i think it should be more like rainbow six. The general intelligence and awareness of everyone who plays, must grow exponentially.
Why do we "diss" BR's? I say capitalize on them, make them they're own league, as well as the other countries who play in mass. Lifeline might be a top ranking competitive clan, but I assure you there are many opportunities for a much more precise and effective group of individuals. Those opportunities are not available given the current circumstances in the game. "cheats, complaints, immaturity, lack of weapons, lack of maps, lack of interest..." It really is the pathway to being "WITHOUT A COMMUNITY", no community, no game, no money.
The game is going on its 3rd year and nothing is really new about it. Why hold out on the good stuff? $$$$$$M O N E Y$$$$$$ .... I hope the dollar dies and the internet goes down with it! -
No you do not understand the basic principles. We the players essentially "work" for z8games, whether you put a dime of your money in or not, you most likely spend time playing. In doing so, you should have a say in what new ideas are brought to this game and the degrees to which they are enforced.
You can always hack, you will always be able to, so long as the developers are on an even playing field with the "others." Systems are built to work in this way, all I am saying is when do we make a compromise... Do we hack until there is no community, do we ban everyone even if were playing fair. WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE & FIND BALANCE!
When did competitive gaming become a control grid for power, when large numbers of people showed interest. If you want to complain about 2000 people signing up for a tourney... HIRE 10 more people and have a 10,000 man tournament over and done with in half the time, don't string it out for 2 months. . . Where is the competitive nature in that? This game is just like Counter strike and i think it should be more like rainbow six. The general intelligence and awareness of everyone who plays, must grow exponentially.
Why do we "diss" BR's? I say capitalize on them, make them they're own league, as well as the other countries who play in mass. Lifeline might be a top ranking competitive clan, but I assure you there are many opportunities for a much more precise and effective group of individuals. Those opportunities are not available given the current circumstances in the game. "cheats, complaints, immaturity, lack of weapons, lack of maps, lack of interest..." It really is the pathway to being "WITHOUT A COMMUNITY", no community, no game, no money.
The game is going on its 3rd year and nothing is really new about it. Why hold out on the good stuff? $$$$$$M O N E Y$$$$$$ .... I hope the dollar dies and the internet goes down with it!
No, you don't work for us. We provide a service, you choose to use it. Whether or not you pay is irrelevant, it doesn't earn you any say in the company, just as you can't ask Coca Cola to change their recipe because you've bought a can.
There are currently hacks. Yes. Some work, most will just get you banned.
But by using them, you violate OUR rules and will suffer accordingly to the extent of our power (i.e, removal from our services).
Yes, wouldn't it be nice if it worked that way.
Too bad it doesn't. Production and demand does go hand in hand, but demand does not control the market. The producer (WOGL in this case I guess since you're crying over a tournament) doesn't HAVE to satisfy everyones need, as its beyond their productivity capabilities (not enough staff to run a 10 000 person tournament). Especially not with non-profit production, as that essentially is.
Targeted marketing isn't really something we do. We provide a game.
If they users want to create a nation specific league: Go right ahead, we'll help you as best we can with the means we got!
We don't release every snippet of content because we don't have access to it.
We're not developers, we don't own this game. We own the right to offer it to designated regions.
Obviously there are marketing strategies in play for the developers, its how they and we make money.
Microtransactions.
A game you pay for, say Counter-Strike, you pay for the actual game and the assumption of coming content.
In this game, a free game, you pay for ZP. That doesn't buy you the right to NEW content, and it doesn't mean you'll get everything that is to come for free.
I lost track. Carry on. -
There will always be competition on this market, its very strict.Haven't you heard the part where it is said that z8 is sinking down (not exactly what he said) coz of people who QQ on the forums and go inventing stuff?
If someone on this forum rages and goes on to try to develop something competing on their own then I.. well, laugh at them is harsh.. -
Well said22 Year old Mountain man here, Just wanted to say... You all are playing a political card, by this i mean. You defend your actions, after you have done them. You guide yourselves with a systematic approach. I understand that most people are not mature just as I suppose your like any company, out for profits. When the integrity of the creators is outweighed by the stress put on them, there becomes a gap in communication and a loss of quality in the ideas presented. Please be warned that you are employed by us, regardless of ownership. . . legalese. We register, we submit application but we do not have to govern ourselves by your rules, for the universe isn't guided by rules, only unspoken natural laws. Hope you feel my drift, it was intended to make you aware that this game isn't a "community" controlled game, when the choices only lay with you.
The sky is the limit, improve yourselves and we shall do the same, have a wonderful day!
unfortunately only 12 year olds and stupid people lurk around these forums making your post kinda useless.
But anyways..+1 for the pep talk ^^ -
There will always be competition on this market, its very strict.
If someone on this forum rages and goes on to try to develop something competing on their own then I.. well, laugh at them is harsh..
oO you really missunderstood what I said...
I was defending z8. Love crossfire and can't quit.
That being said, I meant:
Saidin mentioned at one point that it was hard to work with all these noobs QQing on the forums and talking crap about z8.
Was just pointing out that he probably hadn't listened to all of it.
Btw u mad? Z8 would be working for me? If that was the case Danah would be at the head of this buisness.
Don't try acting smart when you don't know what you're talking about. You probably get bullied irl and feel stupid qo you come here to try to be cool but once again you failed.
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This game isn't the greatest... we play it, because were comfortable with it, the style of play. All this post was meant for is to address the "STAFF" and mature, into creating a community in which people have a say. Develop a community where players respect one another. Its not about winning, its not about losing, its about playing, having fun and getting better, even at the elite levels. GOOD SPORTSMAN SHIP, If the good set the example, the fools will follow.
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The good do set the example. Mostly, anyway.This game isn't the greatest... we play it, because were comfortable with it, the style of play. All this post was meant for is to address the "STAFF" and mature, into creating a community in which people have a say. Develop a community where players respect one another. Its not about winning, its not about losing, its about playing, having fun and getting better, even at the elite levels. GOOD SPORTSMAN SHIP, If the good set the example, the fools will follow.
Its not up to us to build a great community. Great usually just means moderated to and beyond censorship. Thats not something we want.
Its up to the people.
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