Crossfire's Clever Weapon Strat
I've noticed over the progression through the patches that we get more and more ridiculous weapon additions and so forth, the one to top them all being the m12s of course. (lol, and they really thought a rank up would really fix the issue. Your funny.)
So, think about it, when the m12 eats just about anything on the battlefield unless you get a lucky jump on them (sometimes not even then), you gotta scratch your head and wonder... They allow overpowering weapons like this... But a crappy weapon like the Barret is over the top?
Think about it. The ONLY upside to the Barret is its 1 hit kill. Its slow, bulky, and overall just a paper weight that fires bullets. Its only real use is for Mutation Mode.
However, when you compare it to the m12, the bloody thing is as laughable as a player going in with just an m9 in SnD. Merely because the m12 has tenfold the advantages the Barret will ever have, and the m12 is a gp weapon.
-M12s Advantages:
Its RoF is insane, nothing tops it.
Damage combined with RoF is ridiculous.
Its a headshot machine. (Owns those long range snipers/riflers with ease.)
Light and fast reload.
Ton of ammo.
Notable stopping power.
GP and easy to obtain.
-Barret .50 cal Advantages:
1 hit kill anywhere on the body (and possibly through boxes).
100-500 Damage on mutants.
I could list a ton about the Barret's disadvantages but thats another discussion really, and the m12s' list is either extremely small, or non-existent.
So it makes me wonder what is going through the company's head that is supposedly 'balancing' our version of crossfire for optimized play. Clearly its not so. The Barret in this day and age is a joke, easily replaced by the DSR and AWM. Unless this is actually their plan to incorporate the sniper with less people complaining about it.
Thoughts? Do you think they will use the newcoming OP weapons as excuses to justify its coming, or will they say the game is 'balanced as it is' and keep telling us that 'the barret is op and won't be coming' when they clearly have issues already in the game about such.
So, think about it, when the m12 eats just about anything on the battlefield unless you get a lucky jump on them (sometimes not even then), you gotta scratch your head and wonder... They allow overpowering weapons like this... But a crappy weapon like the Barret is over the top?
Think about it. The ONLY upside to the Barret is its 1 hit kill. Its slow, bulky, and overall just a paper weight that fires bullets. Its only real use is for Mutation Mode.
However, when you compare it to the m12, the bloody thing is as laughable as a player going in with just an m9 in SnD. Merely because the m12 has tenfold the advantages the Barret will ever have, and the m12 is a gp weapon.
-M12s Advantages:
Its RoF is insane, nothing tops it.
Damage combined with RoF is ridiculous.
Its a headshot machine. (Owns those long range snipers/riflers with ease.)
Light and fast reload.
Ton of ammo.
Notable stopping power.
GP and easy to obtain.
-Barret .50 cal Advantages:
1 hit kill anywhere on the body (and possibly through boxes).
100-500 Damage on mutants.
I could list a ton about the Barret's disadvantages but thats another discussion really, and the m12s' list is either extremely small, or non-existent.
So it makes me wonder what is going through the company's head that is supposedly 'balancing' our version of crossfire for optimized play. Clearly its not so. The Barret in this day and age is a joke, easily replaced by the DSR and AWM. Unless this is actually their plan to incorporate the sniper with less people complaining about it.
Thoughts? Do you think they will use the newcoming OP weapons as excuses to justify its coming, or will they say the game is 'balanced as it is' and keep telling us that 'the barret is op and won't be coming' when they clearly have issues already in the game about such.
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the m12s isn't that good..
it's got no power
fast shoot and good accuracy but no damage
u just think its OP cause u dont own it urself and always get killed by a m12s user.
I bet I can guess your ping.
The UZI shoots fast, but you don't see everyone using it. THAT weapon has no power. And if you read, the post was comparing the m12 to the Barret and why it wasn't here.
I've used the m12. Its a noob cannon straight up. -
masterdragoo wrote: »use the dual desprados best way to take m12 users down unless you sniper them. and well there is a lot of weapons that are under or over powered in this gameKriss has less power and the same stats without the long-range easy kill.
My main point is though, can the Barret really be considered overpowering in this day and age? I could rant about the m12 all day, I'm just more curious about the justification of the absence of a particular weapon for no reason anymore. -
Barret is less OP then the M12, but in sniper matches the Barret can kill up to 4 people in one line. EVEN SHOOTING ON THE LEGSMy main point is though, can the Barret really be considered overpowering in this day and age? I could rant about the m12 all day, I'm just more curious about the justification of the absence of a particular weapon for no reason anymore. -
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masterdragoo wrote: »well they can just change how much power it has
Perhaps, but with how lazy the devs are, I REALLY don't see that happening in my lifetime.Barret is less OP then the M12, but in sniper matches the Barret can kill up to 4 people in one line. EVEN SHOOTING ON THE LEGS
I'm pretty sure the DSR/AWM can multi kill shooting through chests as well, but they aren't removed. And its far more likely to have 3 people lining up than 4. But your right, in such a case, the Barret would be OP.... for farming. lol -
Awm can damage 3 people in one line, but not kill them in once (leave out headshots)Perhaps, but with how lazy the devs are, I REALLY don't see that happening in my lifetime.
I'm pretty sure the DSR/AWM can multi kill shooting through chests as well, but they aren't removed. And its far more likely to have 3 people lining up than 4. But your right, in such a case, the Barret would be OP.... for farming. lol -
Perhaps, but with how lazy the devs are, I REALLY don't see that happening in my lifetime.
I'm pretty sure the DSR/AWM can multi kill shooting through chests as well, but they aren't removed. And its far more likely to have 3 people lining up than 4. But your right, in such a case, the Barret would be OP.... for farming. lol
I dont think there lazy there doing projects that take all there time -
Awm call damage 3 people in one line, but not kill them in once (leave out headshots)
Well, was mainly point out that in a typical sense, how many opportunities does that arise? Even prison doesn't have that likely of events. In general play, the Barret is less than useful compared to the just as powerful, lighter and agile AWM and DSR.masterdragoo wrote: »I dont think there lazy there doing projects that take all there time
Heh, if this was actually true, they would have fixed the shovel lagg reg AGES ago. Of course they have projects, they just don't care to actually FIX things that they made. lol -
Hm..maybe you iz right..
But ask Simrock how annoying it is :O. The slow rate of fire can be made faster by quick switching.
But like you mentioned before...if they brought the M12s and made it into gp AND NOT ZP like in other versions, the chances of it coming are high. -
Actually in some videos, the barett does 500 through the foot. In sniping terms, even if you are hidden behind some boxes, you will be killed.
AWM does 33 dmg through box, DSR is laughable, and m700 does more dmg percentage than the AWM.
The reason why there is never going to be the barett is because it does 500 everywhere.
therefore, because of this RIDICULOUS amount of damage, wall hackers will be on the rise. Plus, they kill 4 people in the legs, while the AWM does 80 on the legs, 40 on the person behind and the third doesn't register. -
I'm kinda confused as to what you are saying. You are comparing a sniper to an OP sub machine gun?
I think it would be more reasonable to compare to a gun everyone loves, say the M4 Custom?
Dump tons of money to get it from a crate then finally get it through coupons, a coupon a crate means you've already spent 60 bucks. When you can just buy a K2, save your money and get an M12 when you reach rank and basically have a gun that is unfair in every way possible where as people pay a good amount of money for a "good gun."
Game does need to be balanced.
I honestly think the M12 should just be removed from our version. They should make a Portugal version for the BR's/South American's and they can have the dam M12 since they all love it so much. -
This is really just a endless fight, so you get the m12 out of the game, whats next kriss?tommy? XM8?G36? k-2...etc
point am trying to make is there will always be people to QQ about guns, its an endless fight. i personally can't use the m12s, it takes to long to kill a person IMO, and i don't mind other people using it because i know shooting them in the face would solve everything(plus i have a FN mini, and that can mow down any sprayer that gets in my way) -
I've noticed over the progression through the patches that we get more and more ridiculous weapon additions and so forth, the one to top them all being the m12s of course. (lol, and they really thought a rank up would really fix the issue. Your funny.)
So, think about it, when the m12 eats just about anything on the battlefield unless you get a lucky jump on them (sometimes not even then), you gotta scratch your head and wonder... They allow overpowering weapons like this... But a crappy weapon like the Barret is over the top?
Think about it. The ONLY upside to the Barret is its 1 hit kill. Its slow, bulky, and overall just a paper weight that fires bullets. Its only real use is for Mutation Mode.
However, when you compare it to the m12, the bloody thing is as laughable as a player going in with just an m9 in SnD. Merely because the m12 has tenfold the advantages the Barret will ever have, and the m12 is a gp weapon.
-M12s Advantages:
Its RoF is insane, nothing tops it.
Damage combined with RoF is ridiculous.
Its a headshot machine. (Owns those long range snipers/riflers with ease.)
Light and fast reload.
Ton of ammo.
Notable stopping power.
GP and easy to obtain.
-Barret .50 cal Advantages:
1 hit kill anywhere on the body (and possibly through boxes).
100-500 Damage on mutants.
I could list a ton about the Barret's disadvantages but thats another discussion really, and the m12s' list is either extremely small, or non-existent.
So it makes me wonder what is going through the company's head that is supposedly 'balancing' our version of crossfire for optimized play. Clearly its not so. The Barret in this day and age is a joke, easily replaced by the DSR and AWM. Unless this is actually their plan to incorporate the sniper with less people complaining about it.
Thoughts? Do you think they will use the newcoming OP weapons as excuses to justify its coming, or will they say the game is 'balanced as it is' and keep telling us that 'the barret is op and won't be coming' when they clearly have issues already in the game about such.
i dont think m12s is OP beacause: it is not 1 hit HS! rekoil is big. bullet waster, the damage is wayy 2 weak.
it is good in Its RoF is insane, nothing tops it. Light and fast reload.
Ton of ammo. -
TwistedMetal120 wrote: »jeez this complainer wrote an essay lol. if you cant compete, go play COD offline. i beat m12 people all the time and its not hard. rifles got long range advantage, SMGs dont. fyi: m12s is an smg.
You really shouldn't necropost.
And if you've ever used an M12, it has rifle range. It far outclasses any of its SMG brethren in this game. Even the Kriss.
There is no real downside to an m12. Even its 'ammo issue' which I never had a problem with, is easily fixed with an SMG mag. Thats all. -
I've noticed over the progression through the patches that we get more and more ridiculous weapon additions and so forth, the one to top them all being the m12s of course. (lol, and they really thought a rank up would really fix the issue. Your funny.)
So, think about it, when the m12 eats just about anything on the battlefield unless you get a lucky jump on them (sometimes not even then), you gotta scratch your head and wonder... They allow overpowering weapons like this... But a crappy weapon like the Barret is over the top?
Think about it. The ONLY upside to the Barret is its 1 hit kill. Its slow, bulky, and overall just a paper weight that fires bullets. Its only real use is for Mutation Mode.
However, when you compare it to the m12, the bloody thing is as laughable as a player going in with just an m9 in SnD. Merely because the m12 has tenfold the advantages the Barret will ever have, and the m12 is a gp weapon.
-M12s Advantages:
Its RoF is insane, nothing tops it.
Damage combined with RoF is ridiculous.
Its a headshot machine. (Owns those long range snipers/riflers with ease.)
Light and fast reload.
Ton of ammo.
Notable stopping power.
GP and easy to obtain.
-Barret .50 cal Advantages:
1 hit kill anywhere on the body (and possibly through boxes).
100-500 Damage on mutants.
I could list a ton about the Barret's disadvantages but thats another discussion really, and the m12s' list is either extremely small, or non-existent.
So it makes me wonder what is going through the company's head that is supposedly 'balancing' our version of crossfire for optimized play. Clearly its not so. The Barret in this day and age is a joke, easily replaced by the DSR and AWM. Unless this is actually their plan to incorporate the sniper with less people complaining about it.
Thoughts? Do you think they will use the newcoming OP weapons as excuses to justify its coming, or will they say the game is 'balanced as it is' and keep telling us that 'the barret is op and won't be coming' when they clearly have issues already in the game about such.
nice. ^^
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