Gaming rig, or pre-built + iPhone? Opinions please.

CrackinDomes · January 2011

Building myself one real shortly.

6 core to be honest is a waste. Spend half the money and get a Quad core. When in reality even the Quad core is a waste.

My tower went from being almost 1500$ to under a 1000$. With slim to none noticeable performance differences.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT:: On the side note with the phone. I got a iPhone. Checked out all the others listed above and then some. Still went home with an iPhone.

MrShad · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I don't have a cell at the moment.
I could get a BlackBerry, since they're only like £200.

O.O

My sister just bought a $80 BlackBerry curve from Rogers with a $50 plan.

lol it's so expensive in England :rolleyes:

CookieMunzta · January 2011

That i7 sounds pretty decent tbf, but I'd certainly have to replace and add alot of stuff on their.

My price list is:

Motherboard: ASUS M4A77T DDR3 - £48
Processor: AMD Phenom II Six-Core 3.2ghz 9MB cache - £129
Graphics Card: ATI HD6850 1GB HDTV - £120
RAM: 4GB/6GB DDR3 1333mhz - £40
Hard Drive: 1.5TB 7200RPM Sata2 - £60
Optical: LG BluRay-RW/DVD-ROM/HD-ROM - £80
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DI 7.1 Dolby Surround Sound - £30
Case: Thermalake Matrix + 750w PSU - £55
Monitor: 24" Samsung HD PC monitor - £120
OS: Windows 7 32-bit - Free

Total: £682 inc. VAT and shipping.

With a few other extras including Microsoft multimedia keyboard, LiveCam, SteelSeries stuff, and what nots, it'll be around £750.

The Dell i5 is £520 + iPhone £300 totalling £820.

CrackinDomes wrote: »

Building myself one real shortly.

6 core to be honest is a waste. Spend half the money and get a Quad core. When in reality even the Quad core is a waste.

My tower went from being almost 1500$ to under a 1000$. With slim to none noticeable performance differences.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT:: On the side note with the phone. I got a iPhone. Checked out all the others listed above and then some. Still went home with an iPhone.

I was gonna go with an OC'd 3.4ghz Quad-Core Athlon, but the Six-Core turned out to be only £20 more

Hmm now you've gone and confused me :rolleyes: I can get an iPhone for £300, or free on an £35 18 month contract, so I might aswell have that.

sfarc wrote: »

your build it's a better choice than i5 dell+iphone
and it looks fine except the motherboard. try to find one with amd chipset(770 at least).
for about the same price as M4N68T-Pro you can get Asus M4A77T (or better one).

I found an M4A77T for a little bit more just last night, I'm going with that incase I decide to xfire the graphics card, with another.

DJ_Shad0wK1LL wrote: »

O.O

My sister just bought a $80 BlackBerry curve from Rogers with a $50 plan.

lol it's so expensive in England :rolleyes:

What's a $50 plan?

The Curves are like £120 here, on PAYG.

It's gay too now because we have to pay 20% tax on most everything >_<

tooI · January 2011

build it yourself i d say. looks like a solid rig. that GPU is very good price-performance-ratio-wise :)in a benchmark test i looked at, it even gave the 5850 a run for its money. if you are planning on editing videos (rendering and so on) make sure to get the 64bit version, you might need more RAM than 4GB (32bit versions do not support more than 4GB)

i don´t like iphones at all. terribly overpriced

oh yeah and that 6-core: check out how much more energy you will need. like a poster before said, a quad is more than enough. its the same thing with megapixels in cameras.

CookieMunzta · January 2011

to0l wrote: »

build it yourself i d say. looks like a solid rig. that GPU is very good price-performance-ratio-wise :)in a benchmark test i looked at, it even gave the 5850 a run for its money. if you are planning on editing videos (rendering and so on) make sure to get the 64bit version, you might need more RAM than 4GB (32bit versions do not support more than 4GB)

i don´t like iphones at all. terribly overpriced

oh yeah and that 6-core: check out how much more energy you will need. like a poster before said, a quad is more than enough. its the same thing with megapixels in cameras.

I'ma buy 3x2GB DDR3 kits, but only add 4GB to my original build. I'll add the extra 2GB if I upgrade to Intel i7 + 64-bit

That 3.2ghz Six-Core was only a few pounds more than the 3.4ghz OC'd Athlon Quad, and I'll be passing the Phemon onto my sisters PC, so I may aswell go with that tbh, and the 750w should be fine.

tooI · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I'ma buy 3x2GB DDR3 kits, but only add 4GB to my original build. I'll add the extra 2GB if I upgrade to Intel i7 + 64-bit

That 3.2ghz Six-Core was only a few pounds more than the 3.4ghz OC'd Athlon Quad, and I'll be passing the Phemon onto my sisters PC, so I may aswell go with that tbh, and the 750w should be fine.

sounds good yeah. ati really do an amazing job with their GPU´s in terms of noise and low energy. will you still play cf?

CookieMunzta · January 2011

to0l wrote: »

sounds good yeah. ati really do an amazing job with their GPU´s in terms of noise and low energy. will you still play cf?

I barely play as it is

but yeah, I will.
Hopefully they add a higher resolution to the options, so I don't have to play with a tiny screen.

parag0nn · January 2011

if you want to save more money
with a 770(or better) chipset motherboard you can unlock the other 2 cores of a phenom x2 and make it x4
and tbh you don't need a six core for gaming

MrShad · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

What's a $50 plan?

The Curves are like £120 here, on PAYG.

It's gay too now because we have to pay 20% tax on most everything >_<

20%!?!?!

It's only 13% here ;D

ManInMotion · January 2011

DJ_Shad0wK1LL wrote: »

20%!?!?!

It's only 13% here ;D

Went from 17.5% to 20% VAT.
Britain is still in a rut.

CookieMunzta · January 2011

sfarc wrote: »

if you want to save more money
with a 770(or better) chipset motherboard you can unlock the other 2 cores of a phenom x2 and make it x4
and tbh you don't need a six core for gaming

It'll be used for much more than just gaming

DJ_Shad0wK1LL wrote: »

20%!?!?!

It's only 13% here ;D

The new government said they wouldn't raise VAT, then they did. Dooshes, all of em >_<

Kreativ7 wrote: »

Went from 17.5% to 20% VAT.
Britain is still in a rut.

Less than a year ago it was 15% too $:\$

Ackbarr · January 2011

Its 23% here.

Duuuuh.

CyberCatUK · January 2011

To be honest, I have never purchased a pre-built desktop PC, I built my first computer (based on a 386SX about 18 years ago) while some college friends showed me the ropes. I asked what every single piece was called and what it did, so it took about 4 hours do instead the usual 30mins to 1 hour. It cost about half the price of the similar pre-builds I saw in the shop except it included a better CPU more Ram and better VGA card (now ancient to todays stadards). The only thing it didn't include was the O/S, but we got that covered.

Since then I've built around 60-70 PC's to spec for friends/family etc, hardly any of the have needed anything replacing, only upgrades.

OEM machines by DELL, hp/compaq, are all money saving buys for the company so although it looks like a poweful beast, they get the parts cheap so chances are the parts are not up to scratch. At least when building your own rig you know exactly what parts are going in and what you be able to upgrade. Pre-builds sometimes are on the limit of ram the motherboard can handle or don't contain enough expansion slots and I found even the sales staff don't have the information about the guts of the machines they sell.

If you want the ultimate satisfaction of building a rig, learning from the expericence of scoping out the parts and putting it all togther, you get a kick when it all boots up the first time and you knows it all good.

If you want a prebuild which is all done for you in a pretty box and sold with endless support options in case that cheep tat breaks, and the support you get from the OEM providers is the worst. Not to memtion, when they bring out a new model all support which includes driver updates ceases to exsist as there too focused on building another machine which rakes in even more money. Not to mention the heafty price they put on it to begin with because it a known name.

The only ever prebuild I bought was my Dell M1710 gaming laptop. I was not aware of do it yourself projects on building laptops at the time and I wanted one that would last years and which I could upgrade and fix myself down to motherboard level. It's been a great laptop but after a year Dell stopped updating its driver for them so you them need to know where to find tweaked unofficial drivers. 3-4 years on everything has been upgraded to the max, and it still running quicker than any of the laptops on the market to day for around the same price its probably worth now.

I am eager to build a new desktop rig but unless something can give me a decent job I will have to dream for the moment!

CookieMunzta · January 2011

That's pretty much how I feel too, I love the sense of booting up a machine twice as powerful as pre-builts, and thinking "ha, take that Dell" :rolleyes:
I feel lazy going into a store and buying a PC, unless it's a laptop.

I'm tutoring a friend into how to build my rig, so it may take me a couple of hours or so, but it's always good to pass on knowledge.

Potatoesss · January 2011

Just get a contract.

I have unlimited texts, 200 mins and enough internet for £15 (Tesco mobile ftw). The phone itself isn't great, but it does its job.

CookieMunzta · January 2011

"Tesco mobile ftw"... three words I literally never thought I'd hear :rolleyes:

SamuraiMoMo · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I can't be bothered saving anymore, so I'ma build my rig now, rather than wait.
I kinda need a new phone too, so I might buy an iPhone. Problem with that is, it'll eat up a bit of my budget.

My build:
Motherboard: ASUS M4N68T-Pro DDR3

Processor: AMD Phenom II Six-Core 3.2ghz 9MB cache

Graphics Card: ATI HD6850 1GB HDTV

RAM: 4GB/6GB DDR3 1333mhz

Hard Drive: 1.5TB 7200RPM Sata2

Optical: LG BluRay-RW/DVD-ROM/HD-ROM

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DI 7.1 Dolby Surround Sound

Case: Thermalake Matrix + 750w PSU

Monitor: 24" Samsung HD PC monitor

OS: Windows 7 32-bit

Or some pre-built i5 Dell from PC World and an iPhone.

I have all those parts ready to order.

lmao get that rig but than replace the OS with a Windows 7 pro 64x
You can do ultimate to but it will take more RAM and cpu even thought you have enough of that xD
But still for epically good fps is pro/ or home premuim 64x bit better

Anyway a iphone is so 2010, so your better of getting a WP7 or a android phone later in a month or 2

CyberCatUK · January 2011

Tin cans and a piece of string.
Unlimited talk time, no battery rundown, text message via morse-code.
You can problably get it on tinned orange, tinned blackberry but just don't go for apples, there prosessing core is rotten.
Only question you need to answer is, how long is a piece of string?

smiLah · January 2011

Pre-Built rig and get the HTC Desire

CrackinDomes · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I was gonna go with an OC'd 3.4ghz Quad-Core Athlon, but the Six-Core turned out to be only £20 more

Hmm now you've gone and confused me :rolleyes: I can get an iPhone for £300, or free on an £35 18 month contract, so I might aswell have that.

I almost built what you did but decided upon all the parts.

wolveslol · January 2011

y would u use 32 bit rofl

forever119 · January 2011

i prefer u don get the sound card, it's gonna cost $150 -somewhere 200+ right..dolby it's good.

get a good headset with built 7.1 dolby drivers, that cost around the same as ur sound card,but with a headset...

CookieMunzta · January 2011

CrackinDomes wrote: »

I almost built what you did but decided upon all the parts.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6634208&sku=A406-2046

That's pretty much my build

but that case looks beautiful

I might get that instead now $:\$

WolvesG wrote: »

y would u use 32 bit rofl

It's what my friend has which is why it's free :rolleyes: I could get the 64-bit if I find it cheap.

forever119 wrote: »

i prefer u don get the sound card, it's gonna cost $150 -somewhere 200+ right..dolby it's good.

get a good headset with built 7.1 dolby drivers, that cost around the same as ur sound card,but with a headset...

That sound card is only £30. Besides, a cheap 5.1 sound card would sound half as good $:\$

Liqweedate · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

It's what my friend has which is why it's free :rolleyes: I could get the 64-bit if I find it cheap.

That's what the internet is for. Having a 32-bit OS renders the fourth gig of your RAM useless.

CookieMunzta · January 2011

Liqweedate wrote: »

That's what the internet is for. Having a 32-bit OS renders the fourth gig of your RAM useless.

I know, but I been looking around, best I could do was use a friends 25% staff discount at his computer store $:\$

Liqweedate · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I know, but I been looking around, best I could do was use a friends 25% staff discount at his computer store $:\$

I actually meant you could just get a pirated OS.

CookieMunzta · January 2011

Liqweedate wrote: »

I actually meant you could just get a pirated OS.

Oooh I see :rolleyes:
I could I suppose. Though I'd test in on my craptop first, just in case.

wolveslol · January 2011

CookieMunzta · January 2011

WolvesG wrote: »

be like me and get a cool system

cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115223&cm_re=i7_980x-_-19-115-223-_-Product

mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188068&cm_re=evga_x58-_-13-188-068-_-Product

hd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=wd_1tb_black-_-22-136-533-_-Product

ssd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231398&Tpk=g****ill%2080gb

graphics card (SLI) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130571&cm_re=evga_gtx_460_superclocked-_-14-130-571-_-Product

mem - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145321&cm_re=corsair_dominator_12gb-_-20-145-321-_-Product

psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057&cm_re=silverstone_1000w-_-17-256-057-_-Product

monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222

nerdgasm

You Intel whore you ;D

I like the look of that RAM though.

c0hiba · January 2011

CookieMunzta wrote: »

I can't be bothered saving anymore, so I'ma build my rig now, rather than wait.
I kinda need a new phone too, so I might buy an iPhone. Problem with that is, it'll eat up a bit of my budget.

My build:
First Mistake
Graphics Card: ATI HD6850 1GB HDTV

Second Mistake

Hard Drive: 1.5TB 7200RPM Sata2

If you're looking for high power go with nVidia
If you're looking for low power usage go with ATI
And considering that you're getting a 750 watt PSU, I'd say go with an nVidia GTX 480.
However if you really do want to get ATI, get a 5800 series preferably 5870.

Also, on't get a 1.5 TB hard drive, you'll never use a quarter of it.

Gaming rig, or pre-built + iPhone? Opinions please.

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