Current mistakes on guns made by the Devs...
Current mistakes made:
1. M12s isn't suppose to be over powered... It should be obvious to the Devs that the M12s is a crappy gun, because it can't kill people effectively compared to most SMGs, as seen in REAL LIFE.
2. Thompson... the accuracy is extremely horrible at long-range in real life why the hell did they even made it as accurate as you see in CF?
3. MP7 suppose to be an armor piercing gun... this gun and even MP5 should of been better than the M12s.
4. How the hell can M60 shoot without a mag?
1. M12s isn't suppose to be over powered... It should be obvious to the Devs that the M12s is a crappy gun, because it can't kill people effectively compared to most SMGs, as seen in REAL LIFE.
2. Thompson... the accuracy is extremely horrible at long-range in real life why the hell did they even made it as accurate as you see in CF?
3. MP7 suppose to be an armor piercing gun... this gun and even MP5 should of been better than the M12s.
4. How the hell can M60 shoot without a mag?
Comments
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shovels kill better than a knife... thats why they are used by armies during WWI as silent weapons during trench raids.
As for the rest, i agree.
so youre telling me if someone hits you in the legs or arm with the shovel...youll die? youll probably just scream and quickly get up and defend yourself but with a knife...you got no chance.If you pay a monthly fee they are 1 hit kill
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so youre telling me if someone hits you in the legs or arm with the shovel...youll die? youll probably just scream and quickly get up and defend yourself but with a knife...you got no chance.
It depend really, normally the knife would win because you would cut one of the critical veins in the body in the arms or legs. However if you were to have a melee fight, the one with a longer reaching weapon often wins. Applying real life physics to a game argument doesn't really work... too many things to consider. -
It depend really, normally the knife would win because you would cut one of the critical veins in the body in the arms or legs. However if you were to have a melee fight, the one with a longer reaching weapon often wins. Applying real life physics to a game argument doesn't really work... too many things to consider.
i could throw the knife at you easily. i could take more hits of a shovel than someone can with a knife. but yeah...its a game
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Depends how sharp is the shovel. A good one can cut your legs.so youre telling me if someone hits you in the legs or arm with the shovel...youll die? youll probably just scream and quickly get up and defend yourself but with a knife...you got no chance.
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E-Tools (shovels) are wicked. They're heavy and they have (something) of a blade. They'll split/fracture a skull with ease. I'd rather have an E-Tool (or a tomahawk) than a knife in a fight any day.It depend really, normally the knife would win because you would cut one of the critical veins in the body in the arms or legs. However if you were to have a melee fight, the one with a longer reaching weapon often wins. Applying real life physics to a game argument doesn't really work... too many things to consider.
Sharpness depends upon the quality of the steel and the amount that the blade has been sharpened. Ergo, no bladed instrument has an advantage simply due to the curvature/shape of the blade with regards to sharpness. That being said, some weapons are better engineered for a purpose than others. Curved weapons are better for slashing, and straight weapons (particularly, straight bladed weapons with a serrated blade, but that's against the Geneva Conventions) are better for stabbing. And whereas slashing may end a fight, it's largely a psychological impact unless one actually hits an artery; stabbing has a better chance of penetrating deep enough to hit a vital organ. On the issue of "cutting crap in half", that has a whole lot to do with physical strength and armor and the like... but you're right so far as a game is concerned.Hypernamer2 wrote: »Exactly
The katana is the world's sharpest sword
If you slash someone with it in the head or anywhere else
It would cut him in half
Not do damage
On the whole MP7 MP5 penetration crap, the MP7 fires a high velocity low mass round. AP capabilities it has, but damage capabilities of the MP7 and P90 are dubious at best. Meanwhile, the MP5 fires the same 9mm Para as almost every other (western military) SMG/Pistol. -
i could throw the knife at you easily. i could take more hits of a shovel than someone can with a knife. but yeah...its a game
dude thats an army shovel, not something you can find in your garden shack, get ur facts right.
OT: mp7 is still cool though -
AK74U is supposed to be GP, and Winchester Scope to be ZP...
As I know, the M12s uses 9mm bullets. How can it be stronger than a M4A1 ?
How the 9mm P228 can have the same power of the .45 Colt 1911 ?
Why hell Anaconda and Winchester lose power at long range ?
Why the soldier takes sooo much time to reload the Scar Heavy ?
Is the M9 with a silencer ? Because in real life it is very loud. Same thing with FAMAS.
Why FAMAS carry a 25 bullets mag, if there they use 30 bullets mags in real life ?
Why the Glock isnt fully automatic ?
Why the Deagle Gold glows in the dark (seriously, that yellow seems to glow)
Is it hard to trade mags on P90 ? Because its very slow.
The Micro Galil is underpowered.
Isnt the SPAS supposed to be pump action ?
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so youre telling me if someone hits you in the legs or arm with the shovel...youll die? youll probably just scream and quickly get up and defend yourself but with a knife...you got no chance.A field shovel isn't just some garden tool, hon. It has sharp edges and doubles as a make-shift axe. So yes, if you chop of an arm or a leg with it, the blood loss is likely going to kill you, and in this it would be indeed more effective than a knife.
However, the damage of the shovel isn't its biggest flaw. Its the way it hits, that causes the shovel to be the worst noob weapon made for CF. The field shovel strikes horizontally, unlike the axe and knife, even though your opponent gets to see a vertical strike. It covers a 180 degree area around the user, and if a player turns with the strike, 360 degrees. This means that it is virtually impossible to dodge a shovel.
On top of this, there is also a bug in the shovel that causes the hit to register faster than the animation the victim gets to see. So when you are firing at a shoveller who has his shovel raised in the air, you are actually firing at a shoveller who has already hit you. That's why it sometimes look like shovellers are tanking bullets. Between the hit registration and the visual hit there is enough time to put 4 bullets into your opponent. However, because his hit made contact before your 4 bullets did, your bullets get tanked. They have fixed that problem in the katana, which also strikes horizontally, so they should be able to do that for the field shovel as well. But they won't.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops -
Overlooked the most important guns..
M4-adv soundglitched, Dual Desperados soundglitched, MP5/XM8/XM8-adv/Type89/G36k 100% walldamage, M4-regs new pattern.
Someone probably already mentioned the glitched animation for the shovel which has never been addressed. -
FreckleMunzta wrote: »A field shovel isn't just some garden tool, hon. It has sharp edges and doubles as a make-shift axe. So yes, if you chop of an arm or a leg with it, the blood loss is likely going to kill you, and in this it would be indeed more effective than a knife.
However, the damage of the shovel isn't its biggest flaw. Its the way it hits, that causes the shovel to be the worst noob weapon made for CF. The field shovel strikes horizontally, unlike the axe and knife, even though your opponent gets to see a vertical strike. It covers a 180 degree area around the user, and if a player turns with the strike, 360 degrees. This means that it is virtually impossible to dodge a shovel.
On top of this, there is also a bug in the shovel that causes the hit to register faster than the animation the victim gets to see. So when you are firing at a shoveller who has his shovel raised in the air, you are actually firing at a shoveller who has already hit you. That's why it sometimes look like shovellers are tanking bullets. Between the hit registration and the visual hit there is enough time to put 4 bullets into your opponent. However, because his hit made contact before your 4 bullets did, your bullets get tanked. They have fixed that problem in the katana, which also strikes horizontally, so they should be able to do that for the field shovel as well. But they won't.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops
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overlooked the most important guns..
M4-adv soundglitched, dual desperados soundglitched, mp5/xm8/xm8-adv/type89/g36k 100% walldamage, m4-regs new pattern.
Someone probably already mentioned the glitched animation for the shovel which has never been addressed.
let em know xdd -
SPawPKitty wrote: »Current mistakes made:
1. M12s isn't suppose to be over powered... It should be obvious to the Devs that the M12s is a crappy gun, because it can't kill people effectively compared to most SMGs, as seen in REAL LIFE.
2. Thompson... the accuracy is extremely horrible at long-range in real life why the hell did they even made it as accurate as you see in CF?
3. MP7 suppose to be an armor piercing gun... this gun and even MP5 should of been better than the M12s.
4. How the hell can M60 shoot without a mag?
1.Completly agree should be more crappy.
2.Thompson bad at long range but a little bit more damage (only a little bit) and slightly more recoil, basicly only close/medium range with more damage and more recoil.
3.MP7 = Great I love this thing just spraying gets loads of kills very underestimated gun could be a bit more powerfull but I RATHER have an extra ammo clip!
(also the MP5's are just fine shouldn't make them better or worse, Kriss Super V should have more damage though should be the most OP'ed SMG but it sucks atm
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4.Don't really understand what you mean here.. then again I hardly ever picked up a M60
Edit* MP7 is like the AK, QBZ and such once you learn how to use it effectivly its amazing
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Omg just thinking of it. CF is so unrealistic and so bugged. This is what i mean by fail patches because after every patch something like this happens but no one ever seems to fix it. ( im talking about the glitches with the guns )
But im still confused over the m12s Why make it so powerful? Is it purposely powerful for the BR's or something? Did they pay you for this? :O -
Daanieliop wrote: »Why hell Anaconda and Winchester lose power at long range ?
You mean : "why only those weapons ?" A bullet is supposed to lose speed and thus, in a certain way, power, the longer it travels.Daanieliop wrote: »Why the soldier takes sooo much time to reload the Scar Heavy ?
Same for other weapons. Reload times are wrong most of the times, for instance, Dual Desperados should take ages to reload. But if you want to make a weapon better, or an animation cooler, such things usually doesn't matter.
Other mistakes include :
- why a tactical reload with AR-70 throw the mag behind, you still need it
- why rack the slide of a gun (or chamber a round) each time you draw it ? You only need to do it once you've put a new mag (and only if you emptied the weapon before).
- why carry only 3 magazines, while in real life, soldiers can carry up to 6-7 ?Daanieliop wrote: »Is the M9 with a silencer ? Because in real life it is very loud. Same thing with FAMAS.
I think the FAMAS is loud enough. Anaconda and DD on the other hand... A powerful revolver and double shotguns, you should hear them from the other side of the map, instead they are really silenced.Daanieliop wrote: »Why FAMAS carry a 25 bullets mag, if there they use 30 bullets mags in real life ?
Some versions of FAMAS use a proprietary magazine of 25 bullets. They got that one right.Daanieliop wrote: »Why the Deagle Gold glows in the dark (seriously, that yellow seems to glow)
Better rename it phosphorescent D-Eagle in that case...
"Stay too long in the light, and you DE glows in the dark !"Daanieliop wrote: »Is it hard to trade mags on P90 ? Because its very slow.
Same as above, you can make it slow or fast depending on how good you want the weapon to be. IRL it can be faster than in CF that's for sure.Daanieliop wrote: »Isnt the SPAS supposed to be pump action ?
Actually it is both pump action and semi-automatic.
As for the M12s, it shouldn't be crappy (or else it wouldn't have been use IRL) but making it this good is hard to explain. ROF + 40 rounds, ok for an SMG, but power and accuracy (especially at long range and in full auto), they are at a rifle level...
You forgot the Anaconda-Adv with a magical cylinder holding 8 rounds... -
That is intense
More like, that is messed up.JurydesEnfer wrote: »As for the M12s, it shouldn't be crappy (or else it wouldn't have been use IRL) but making it this good is hard to explain. ROF + 40 rounds, ok for an SMG, but power and accuracy (especially at long range and in full auto), they are at a rifle level...
You forgot the Anaconda-Adv with a magical cylinder holding 8 rounds...
Actually, compared to most modern-day SMGs, the M12s' performance in real life is indeed lacking. In fact, the stats it was given seem more fitting for the MP7. The MP7 packs a similar punch as an M4 carbine, but here it doesn't even pack the same punch as the MP5 that it was meant to replace.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops
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