Graphic Card Any Good?
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in the end ATI is better, a card is not going to be rated bad just from one person's experience whether it was through ignorance or defective. I think you need to calm down, G2 wasn't flaming the description you listed sounded like an inadequate PSU. For a person with that many degrees you don't seem so mature/intelligent.(flame) LIKE I said, ATI is better overall
So your opinion is based on what?
Please explain how you arrive at this decision.
what was your inspiration, education on the subject (ATI vs Nvidia)
and where is or are the statistics that support your claim? -
So your opinion is based on what?
Please explain how you arrive at this decision.
what was your inspiration, education on the subject (ATI vs Nvidia)
and where is or are the statistics that support your claim?
My inspiration was simply to build an affective gaming computer at a economical price
here is what i'm going to ask you to do,
step 1: go to a book store near you!
step 2: go to the magazine section!
step 3: go to PC gamers magazine! (You will find out I was right!)
step 4: Read inside, there will be numerous test conducted on Nvidia vs ATI, with fps rates with multiple games.
If you're still not convinced!
step 5: go to the computer book section!
step 6: find a computer hardware book that is up to date!
step 7: you will that the benchmark rates for ATI are higher than Nvidia.
If you're simply a fat lazy american
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ATI+vs+Nvidia -
I educated myself when I first started building these systems,
through overclock.net and other sites like it
they give a thorough chart and comparison if you look at several different
site's
If you look at this chart that is posted in a link I will post,
It shows each card and which card compares to which card
all cards made by one company do not share the same frame rate and
reputation's
so saying all of one brand is better is False
here is the chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,2676-7.html
Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
GeForceRadeonIntel
Discrete: HD 5970
Discrete: GTX 295, GTX 480Discrete: HD 4870 X2
Discrete: HD 4850 X2, HD 5870
Discrete: GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 470 Discrete: HD 5850
Discrete: 9800 [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]GX2[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 465 Discrete: HD 4870, HD 4890, HD 5770, HD 5830
Mobility: HD 5870
Discrete: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250 Discrete: [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]HD[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] 3870 X2, HD 4850, HD 5750
Mobility: HD 4850, HD 5850
Discrete: 8800 GTX, [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]8800 [/FONT][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]GTS[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] 512 MB
Go (mobile): GTX 280M, GTX 285M
Discrete: HD 4770
Mobility: HD 4860
Discrete: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT
Go (mobile): 9800M GTX, GTX 260M (112), GTS 360M (GDDR5) Discrete: HD 4830, HD 5670
Mobility: HD 5770, HD 5750
Discrete: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, GT 240 (GDDR5)
Go (mobile): 9800M GTS, GTX 160M
Discrete: HD 2900 XT, HD 3870, HD 5570 (GDDR5)
Discrete: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, GT 240 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): GTX 260M (96), GTS 150M, GTS 360M (DDR3)
Discrete: HD 3850 512 MB, HD 4670, HD 5570 (DDR3)
Mobility: HD 3870, HD 5730, HD 5650
Discrete: 8800 GT 256 MB, 8800 GTS 320 MB, GT 220
Go (mobile): 8800M Discrete: HD 2900 PRO, HD 3850 256 MB, 5550 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 3850
Discrete: 7950 GX2 Discrete: X1950 XTX, HD 4650 (DDR3)
Discrete: 7800 GTX 512, 7900 GTO, 7900 GTX Discrete: X1900 XT, X1950 XT, X1900 XTX
Discrete: 7800 GTX, 7900 GT, 7950 GT Discrete: X1800 XT, X1900 AIW, X1900 GT, X1950 PRO, HD 2900 GT
Discrete: 7800 GT, 7900 GS, 8600 GTS, 9500 GT (GDDR3)
Go (mobile): 7950 GTX
Discrete: X1800 XL, X1950 GT, HD 4650 (DDR2), HD 5550 (DDR3)
Mobility X1800 XT, HD 4650, HD 5165
Discrete: 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 7800 GS, 8600 GT (GDDR3), 9500 GT (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7800 GTX, 7900 GTX Discrete: X800 XT (& PE), X850 XT (& PE), X1650 XT, X1800 GTO, HD 2600 XT, HD 3650 (DDR3), HD 3670, HD 5550 (DDR2)
Mobility: X1900, 3670
Discrete: 6800 GT, 6800 GS (PCIe), 8600 GT (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7800, Go 7900 GS
Discrete: X800 XL, X800 GTO2/GTO16, HD 2600 PRO, HD 3650 (DDR2),
Mobility: X800 XT, HD 2600 XT, 3650
Discrete: 6800 GS (AGP)
Go (mobile): 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 8600M GT, 8700M GT Discrete: X800 GTO 256 MB, X800 PRO, X850 PRO, X1650 GT
Mobility: HD 2600
Discrete: 6800, 7300 GT GDDR3, 7600 GS, 8600M GS
Go (mobile): 6800, 7700
Discrete: X800, X800 GTO 128 MB, X1600 XT, X1650 PRO
Mobility: X1800, HD 5145, HD 5470 (GDDR5), HD 5450,
Discrete: 6600 GT, 6800LE, 6800 XT, 7300 GT (DDR2), 8500 GT, 9400 GT
Go (mobile): 7600 (128-bit)
Discrete: 9800 XT, X700 PRO, X800 GT, X800 SE, X1300 XT, X1600 PRO, HD 2400 XT, HD 4350, HD 4550, HD 5550
Mobility: X800, 3470, HD 5470 (DDR3), HD 5430
Integrated: HD 3300
Discrete: FX 5900, FX 5900 Ultra, FX 5950 Ultra, 6600 (128-bit)
Go (mobile): 6800 (128-bit)
Integrated: 9300, 9400 Discrete: 9700, 9700 PRO, 9800, 9800 PRO, X700, X1300 PRO, X1550, HD 2400 PRO
Mobility: X1450, X1600, X1700, 2400 XT, X2500, 3450
Integrated: HD 3200, HD 4200
Discrete: FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900 XT
Go (mobile): 6600, Go 7600 (64-bit)
Discrete: 9500 PRO, 9600 XT, 9800 PRO (128-bit), X600 XT, X1050 (128-bit)
Mobility: 9800, X700, X1350, X1400, X2300, HD 2400
Discrete: 4 Ti 4600, 4 Ti 4800, FX 5700 Ultra, 6200, 8300, 8400 G, G 210, G 310 Discrete: 9600 PRO, 9800 LE, X600 PRO, HD 2300
Mobility: 9700 (128-bit), X600, X1300
Integrated: Xpress 1250
Discrete: 4 Ti4200, 4 Ti4400, 4 Ti4800 SE, FX 5600 Ultra, FX 5700, 6600 (64-bit), 7300 GS, 8400M GS, 9300M G, 9300M GS Discrete: 9500, 9550, 9600, X300, X1050 (64-bit)
Mobility: 9600
Discrete: 3 Ti500, FX 5200 Ultra, FX 5600, FX 5700 LE, 6200 TC, 6600 LE, 7200 GS, 7300 LE
Go (mobile): 5700, 8200M, 9200M GS, 9100
Integrated: 8200, 8300
Discrete: 8500, 9100, 9000 PRO, 9600 LE, X300 SE, X1150
Mobility 9700 (64-bit)GMA X4500
Discrete: 3, 3 Ti200, FX 5200 (128-bit), FX 5500,
Go (mobile): 5600, 6200, 6400, 7200, 7300, 7400 (64-bit) Discrete: 9000, 9200, 9250
Mobility: 9600 (64-bit), X300
Discrete: FX 5200 (64 bit)
Go (mobile): 7200, 7400 (32-bit)
Integrated: 6100, 6150
Discrete: 9200 SE
Integrated: Xpress 200M, Xpress 1000, Xpress 1150 GMA X3000, X3100, X3500
Discrete: 2 GTS, 4 MX 440, 2 Ultra, 2 Ti, 2 Ti 200 Discrete: 7500 GMA 3000, 3100
Discrete: 256, 2 MX 200, 4 MX 420, 2 MX 400 Discrete: SDR, LE, DDR, 7000, 7200 GMA 500, 900, 950
Discrete: Nvidia *** Discrete: Rage 128 Intel 740
Summary
There you have it folks; the best cards for the money this month. Now all that’s left to do is to find and purchase them.
Don’t worry too much about which brand you choose, because all of the cards out there are close to Nvidia’s and ATI’s reference designs. Just pay attention to price, warranty, and the manufacturer’s reputation for honoring the warranty if something goes wrong.
Also remember that the stores don’t follow this list. Things will change over the course of the month and you’ll probably have to adapt your buying strategy to deal with fluctuating prices. Good luck! -
My inspiration was simply to build an affective gaming computer at a economical price
here is what i'm going to ask you to do,
step 1: go to a book store near you!
step 2: go to the magazine section!
step 3: go to PC gamers magazine! (You will find out I was right!)
step 4: Read inside, there will be numerous test conducted on Nvidia vs ATI, with fps rates with multiple games.
If you're still not convinced!
step 5: go to the computer book section!
step 6: find a computer hardware book that is up to date!
step 7: you will that the benchmark rates for ATI are higher than Nvidia.
If you're simply a fat lazy american
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ATI+vs+Nvidia
All of which you can find online.
http://www.pcgamer.com/
oh and here is a link you may find interesting
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/09/geforce-gtx-580-hot-benchmarks-cooler-temps/ -
I educated myself when I first started building these systems,
through overclock.net and other sites like it
they give a thorough chart and comparison if you look at several different
site's
If you look at this chart that is posted in a link I will post,
It shows each card and which card compares to which card
all cards made by one company do not share the same frame rate and
reputation's
so saying all of one brand is better is False
here is the chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,2676-7.html
Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
GeForceRadeonIntel
Discrete: HD 5970
Discrete: GTX 295, GTX 480Discrete: HD 4870 X2
Discrete: HD 4850 X2, HD 5870
Discrete: GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 470 Discrete: HD 5850
Discrete: 9800 [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]GX2[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 465 Discrete: HD 4870, HD 4890, HD 5770, HD 5830
Mobility: HD 5870
Discrete: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250 Discrete: [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]HD[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] 3870 X2, HD 4850, HD 5750
Mobility: HD 4850, HD 5850
Discrete: 8800 GTX, [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]8800 [/FONT][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT=inherit ! important]GTS[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] 512 MB
Go (mobile): GTX 280M, GTX 285M
Discrete: HD 4770
Mobility: HD 4860
Discrete: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT
Go (mobile): 9800M GTX, GTX 260M (112), GTS 360M (GDDR5) Discrete: HD 4830, HD 5670
Mobility: HD 5770, HD 5750
Discrete: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, GT 240 (GDDR5)
Go (mobile): 9800M GTS, GTX 160M
Discrete: HD 2900 XT, HD 3870, HD 5570 (GDDR5)
Discrete: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, GT 240 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): GTX 260M (96), GTS 150M, GTS 360M (DDR3)
Discrete: HD 3850 512 MB, HD 4670, HD 5570 (DDR3)
Mobility: HD 3870, HD 5730, HD 5650
Discrete: 8800 GT 256 MB, 8800 GTS 320 MB, GT 220
Go (mobile): 8800M Discrete: HD 2900 PRO, HD 3850 256 MB, 5550 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 3850
Discrete: 7950 GX2 Discrete: X1950 XTX, HD 4650 (DDR3)
Discrete: 7800 GTX 512, 7900 GTO, 7900 GTX Discrete: X1900 XT, X1950 XT, X1900 XTX
Discrete: 7800 GTX, 7900 GT, 7950 GT Discrete: X1800 XT, X1900 AIW, X1900 GT, X1950 PRO, HD 2900 GT
Discrete: 7800 GT, 7900 GS, 8600 GTS, 9500 GT (GDDR3)
Go (mobile): 7950 GTX
Discrete: X1800 XL, X1950 GT, HD 4650 (DDR2), HD 5550 (DDR3)
Mobility X1800 XT, HD 4650, HD 5165
Discrete: 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 7800 GS, 8600 GT (GDDR3), 9500 GT (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7800 GTX, 7900 GTX Discrete: X800 XT (& PE), X850 XT (& PE), X1650 XT, X1800 GTO, HD 2600 XT, HD 3650 (DDR3), HD 3670, HD 5550 (DDR2)
Mobility: X1900, 3670
Discrete: 6800 GT, 6800 GS (PCIe), 8600 GT (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7800, Go 7900 GS
Discrete: X800 XL, X800 GTO2/GTO16, HD 2600 PRO, HD 3650 (DDR2),
Mobility: X800 XT, HD 2600 XT, 3650
Discrete: 6800 GS (AGP)
Go (mobile): 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 8600M GT, 8700M GT Discrete: X800 GTO 256 MB, X800 PRO, X850 PRO, X1650 GT
Mobility: HD 2600
Discrete: 6800, 7300 GT GDDR3, 7600 GS, 8600M GS
Go (mobile): 6800, 7700
Discrete: X800, X800 GTO 128 MB, X1600 XT, X1650 PRO
Mobility: X1800, HD 5145, HD 5470 (GDDR5), HD 5450,
Discrete: 6600 GT, 6800LE, 6800 XT, 7300 GT (DDR2), 8500 GT, 9400 GT
Go (mobile): 7600 (128-bit)
Discrete: 9800 XT, X700 PRO, X800 GT, X800 SE, X1300 XT, X1600 PRO, HD 2400 XT, HD 4350, HD 4550, HD 5550
Mobility: X800, 3470, HD 5470 (DDR3), HD 5430
Integrated: HD 3300
Discrete: FX 5900, FX 5900 Ultra, FX 5950 Ultra, 6600 (128-bit)
Go (mobile): 6800 (128-bit)
Integrated: 9300, 9400 Discrete: 9700, 9700 PRO, 9800, 9800 PRO, X700, X1300 PRO, X1550, HD 2400 PRO
Mobility: X1450, X1600, X1700, 2400 XT, X2500, 3450
Integrated: HD 3200, HD 4200
Discrete: FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900 XT
Go (mobile): 6600, Go 7600 (64-bit)
Discrete: 9500 PRO, 9600 XT, 9800 PRO (128-bit), X600 XT, X1050 (128-bit)
Mobility: 9800, X700, X1350, X1400, X2300, HD 2400
Discrete: 4 Ti 4600, 4 Ti 4800, FX 5700 Ultra, 6200, 8300, 8400 G, G 210, G 310 Discrete: 9600 PRO, 9800 LE, X600 PRO, HD 2300
Mobility: 9700 (128-bit), X600, X1300
Integrated: Xpress 1250
Discrete: 4 Ti4200, 4 Ti4400, 4 Ti4800 SE, FX 5600 Ultra, FX 5700, 6600 (64-bit), 7300 GS, 8400M GS, 9300M G, 9300M GS Discrete: 9500, 9550, 9600, X300, X1050 (64-bit)
Mobility: 9600
Discrete: 3 Ti500, FX 5200 Ultra, FX 5600, FX 5700 LE, 6200 TC, 6600 LE, 7200 GS, 7300 LE
Go (mobile): 5700, 8200M, 9200M GS, 9100
Integrated: 8200, 8300
Discrete: 8500, 9100, 9000 PRO, 9600 LE, X300 SE, X1150
Mobility 9700 (64-bit)GMA X4500
Discrete: 3, 3 Ti200, FX 5200 (128-bit), FX 5500,
Go (mobile): 5600, 6200, 6400, 7200, 7300, 7400 (64-bit) Discrete: 9000, 9200, 9250
Mobility: 9600 (64-bit), X300
Discrete: FX 5200 (64 bit)
Go (mobile): 7200, 7400 (32-bit)
Integrated: 6100, 6150
Discrete: 9200 SE
Integrated: Xpress 200M, Xpress 1000, Xpress 1150 GMA X3000, X3100, X3500
Discrete: 2 GTS, 4 MX 440, 2 Ultra, 2 Ti, 2 Ti 200 Discrete: 7500 GMA 3000, 3100
Discrete: 256, 2 MX 200, 4 MX 420, 2 MX 400 Discrete: SDR, LE, DDR, 7000, 7200 GMA 500, 900, 950
Discrete: Nvidia *** Discrete: Rage 128 Intel 740
Summary
There you have it folks; the best cards for the money this month. Now all that’s left to do is to find and purchase them.
Don’t worry too much about which brand you choose, because all of the cards out there are close to Nvidia’s and ATI’s reference designs. Just pay attention to price, warranty, and the manufacturer’s reputation for honoring the warranty if something goes wrong.
Also remember that the stores don’t follow this list. Things will change over the course of the month and you’ll probably have to adapt your buying strategy to deal with fluctuating prices. Good luck!
l2readbenchmark
Ati > Nvidia in so many way -
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It seems to me that anyone that posts that their opinion is that nvidia has performed well for them should be bashed by the people that think ATI is better
No matter what.
I say let the guy make an educated decision.
Not well I wanted to build a cheap computer so I got ati and it works good
I posted links and charts to places he can compare and decide for himself.
Is there something wrong with that?
Or do you have to impose your Beliefs so that everyone believes as you do -
It seems to me that anyone that posts that their opinion is that nvidia has performed well for them should be bashed by the people that think ATI is better
No matter what.
I say let the guy make an educated decision.
Not well I wanted to build a cheap computer so I got ati and it works good
I posted links and charts to places he can compare and decide for himself.
Is there something wrong with that?
Or do you have to impose your Beliefs so that everyone believes as you do
buying Nvidia over Ati is like buying Amd Phenom II over Intel i7 -
buying Nvidia over Ati is like buying Amd Phenom II over Intel i7
So now dont take this the wrong way
all nvidia should go out of business and toss all the cards in the trash
Right?
and all NVIDIA cards are garbage. Period.
Is this what you are saying? -
So now dont take this the wrong way
all nvidia should go out of business and toss all the cards in the trash
Right?
and all NVIDIA cards are garbage. Period.
Is this what you are saying?
im just sayin, only nvidia fanboy buy nvidia. And recently, Apple ditch Nvidia to go with Ati -
yes i read about Apple going to ati because of heat issue's and GPU failuresim just sayin, only nvidia fanboy buy nvidia. And recently, Apple ditch Nvidia to go with Ati
this due to the generation of chips Nvidia has used
but as apple and Nvidia state as soon as the new chips are out and the heating problem solved Apple will be going back to Nvidia
as supported by this article
http://www.hardwareinsight.com/apple-to-replace-nvidia-gpus-with-ati-radeon-4000-series/
so indeed you are correct for the time being. -
yes i read about Apple going to ati because of heat issue's and GPU failures
this due to the generation of chips Nvidia has used
but as apple and Nvidia state as soon as the new chips are out and the heating problem solved Apple will be going back to Nvidia
as supported by this article
http://www.hardwareinsight.com/apple-to-replace-nvidia-gpus-with-ati-radeon-4000-series/
so indeed you are correct for the time being.
once again, Nvidia and cool cannot exist in the same sentence -
Nvidia or ATI
Lost your card drives but it's a new card?
Nvidia - They release there graphic cards drives before they start selling the card that the drivers where designed for and.
ATI - They sell the product before releasing drivers on the web, if you go to there website and you have a old graphic card there drives you download will not work because they won't be able to update.
Nvidia Wins
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