Dual Side Weapons
"Dual Sidearms
Idea:
- Make dualweilding sideweapons possible, by allowing to equip a sideweapon in the primary slot.
How:
- When you equip a sidearm, it's image will appear in the lower right of the square where you see your primary. This will mean that you can equip an EXACTLY same weapon in the primary slot. Therefore, you will be able to use double pistols as your primary, and the option to still use one as the secondary weapon.
- The ammo will be as following: Two clips in each pistol plus 4 spare clips. For a DE, it would work like this for example ==> 14/28 ammo while in primary aka dualweilding, and 7/35 while in secondary, using only one pistol. This is why two exactly same weapons have to be used. P228 can't be used with Colt, because of their different ammo. And DE-C can't be used with DE, because of the different ammo count and different reload speed. Basically, you can use this only on two exactly same sidearms.
- While in primary mode, with dual pistols, the recoil will increase by 1.5 and the weigh by 2.0 of your secondary. The reload speed will be twice as long as the secondary's normal reload. This still means that dual DE-C will reload faster than dual DE-S, and dual DE-S will reload faster than dual DE. Just like the regular DE-C > DE-S > DE reloads.
Controvercy/OP:
- This suggestion might look as OP or something that renders Dual Colts useless. Well no. While in this dualweilding mode, you can only have secondaries. No primary weapon. Wich means that you won't have any primary to rely on. While dual colts allow you to have dualweilding AND a primary. The second thing is, it's not OP, since those are only sidearms. This leaves the user vulnerable against many things, as we all know that usually primaries have more power and/or fire rate and/or accuracy. Primaries still will be better than sidearms in some circumstances."
This was suggested a while ago, but the thread died out on account of the creator of it being banned for some reason.
I'm reposting this to try to revive the idea. I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THINKING OF IT!
Now many people would ask, as in the previous thread, what about the DE-S? How would dual wielding those work? Which scope would it zoom on? The DE-S would be removed from the system. There would be to many variables to consider such as which one to use for scope and why would you use two scoped anyways?
Also, you if you couldn't get as much out of the above quoted statement, the DE is not the only gun that could be used. Dual P228, Dual Anaconda, Dual USP(If you somehow have two of them), are other options.
You could not mix a Colt with a DE, or any other combination. Only two of the exact same guns could be used.
People also asked, "What about the dual colts? Would it be dual dual colts?"
A- No, the dual colts would be exempt from this system. And again, if you didn't get it from the quoted area, it would not make the Dual Colt item useless. The DC can be used as a secondary, with a primary. This system would allow you to trade in the primary to carry another secondary, and use them both at one.
Ways to implement-
I was thinking perhaps a ZP purchasable bag. This bag would, instead of having a primary slot, have a second, secondary slot. You would select the gun for the "primary" secondary, and then the one for the secondary. Switch to that bag at the beginning of that life/round, and you're using the Dual Side Weapons system. =D
Also, this system was called OP by many. What they failed to consider is that there would be no primary weapon. They would only have two secondaries. So that takes care of the OP issue.
This thread was originally posted by EmoMunzta. It has been reposted by me, in hopes of getting enough to support to suggest it to SmileGate, as EmoMunzta was going to.
Idea:
- Make dualweilding sideweapons possible, by allowing to equip a sideweapon in the primary slot.
How:
- When you equip a sidearm, it's image will appear in the lower right of the square where you see your primary. This will mean that you can equip an EXACTLY same weapon in the primary slot. Therefore, you will be able to use double pistols as your primary, and the option to still use one as the secondary weapon.
- The ammo will be as following: Two clips in each pistol plus 4 spare clips. For a DE, it would work like this for example ==> 14/28 ammo while in primary aka dualweilding, and 7/35 while in secondary, using only one pistol. This is why two exactly same weapons have to be used. P228 can't be used with Colt, because of their different ammo. And DE-C can't be used with DE, because of the different ammo count and different reload speed. Basically, you can use this only on two exactly same sidearms.
- While in primary mode, with dual pistols, the recoil will increase by 1.5 and the weigh by 2.0 of your secondary. The reload speed will be twice as long as the secondary's normal reload. This still means that dual DE-C will reload faster than dual DE-S, and dual DE-S will reload faster than dual DE. Just like the regular DE-C > DE-S > DE reloads.
Controvercy/OP:
- This suggestion might look as OP or something that renders Dual Colts useless. Well no. While in this dualweilding mode, you can only have secondaries. No primary weapon. Wich means that you won't have any primary to rely on. While dual colts allow you to have dualweilding AND a primary. The second thing is, it's not OP, since those are only sidearms. This leaves the user vulnerable against many things, as we all know that usually primaries have more power and/or fire rate and/or accuracy. Primaries still will be better than sidearms in some circumstances."
This was suggested a while ago, but the thread died out on account of the creator of it being banned for some reason.
I'm reposting this to try to revive the idea. I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THINKING OF IT!
Now many people would ask, as in the previous thread, what about the DE-S? How would dual wielding those work? Which scope would it zoom on? The DE-S would be removed from the system. There would be to many variables to consider such as which one to use for scope and why would you use two scoped anyways?
Also, you if you couldn't get as much out of the above quoted statement, the DE is not the only gun that could be used. Dual P228, Dual Anaconda, Dual USP(If you somehow have two of them), are other options.
You could not mix a Colt with a DE, or any other combination. Only two of the exact same guns could be used.
People also asked, "What about the dual colts? Would it be dual dual colts?"
A- No, the dual colts would be exempt from this system. And again, if you didn't get it from the quoted area, it would not make the Dual Colt item useless. The DC can be used as a secondary, with a primary. This system would allow you to trade in the primary to carry another secondary, and use them both at one.
Ways to implement-
I was thinking perhaps a ZP purchasable bag. This bag would, instead of having a primary slot, have a second, secondary slot. You would select the gun for the "primary" secondary, and then the one for the secondary. Switch to that bag at the beginning of that life/round, and you're using the Dual Side Weapons system. =D
Also, this system was called OP by many. What they failed to consider is that there would be no primary weapon. They would only have two secondaries. So that takes care of the OP issue.
This thread was originally posted by EmoMunzta. It has been reposted by me, in hopes of getting enough to support to suggest it to SmileGate, as EmoMunzta was going to.
Comments
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CallMeSoul wrote: »as i said to Emo's i like it
BTW i was about to flame ya till u said it wasn't urs
Lol, yeah, I won't take credit for it. It wasn't my idea, but I love this and would really love to see it. So can I count you as a yes vote on suggesting it to SmileGate? -
This IS the suggestions area. :lxJaymee123 wrote: »This should be posted in the suggestions. Good idea.
As I said above, this is in the suggestions. :lVery good idea next time post in suggestions or delete this three and repose. Thanks good job!This would be very nice, but wouldn't you think dual wielding a desert eagle that has x2 the normal fire rate a little over powering?
No, considering that the reload would also be doubled. -
its a verry nice idee but i guesse it will not appear here why? we already have 2 dual guns (dusparado and dual colt) so they can make more dual guns for zp so they get more money plus there will be a big different of players wo buy zp and players who don't
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BENickvaes wrote: »its a verry nice idee but i guesse it will not appear here why? we already have 2 dual guns (dusparado and dual colt) so they can make more dual guns for zp so they get more money plus there will be a big different of players wo buy zp and players who don't
Obviously you don't get it.. -..- This would allow you to dual wield pistols only, at the lack of having a primary. You trade in your primary in exchange for dual wielding secondaries. So the DCs wouldn't even be an argument you could use against this idea, seeing as how with those you can still have a primary. And the DDs couldn't be used in it either. Those are shotguns, there are pistols. -
ZmasterzeroZ wrote: »Obviously you don't get it.. -..- This would allow you to dual wield pistols only, at the lack of having a primary. You trade in your primary in exchange for dual wielding secondaries. So the DCs wouldn't even be an argument you could use against this idea, seeing as how with those you can still have a primary. And the DDs couldn't be used in it either. Those are shotguns, there are pistols.dude i get you, you don't get me
if z8 games would accept ur idee who is gona buy the dual colt than?
btw i said we already have dual GUNS like the DD -
BENickvaes wrote: »dude i get you, you don't get me
if z8 games would accept ur idee who is gona buy the dual colt than?
btw i said we already have dual GUNS like the DD
You can still buy the dual colts. -..- Those are a secondary, you still use a primary with those.
And the DD are shotguns, there are pistols. Big difference there. :l -
ZmasterzeroZ wrote: »You can still buy the dual colts. -..- Those are a secondary, you still use a primary with those.
And the DD are shotguns, there are pistols. Big difference there. :lok, so you mean that we could use dual pistols as primary wapens? -
BENickvaes wrote: »ok, so you mean that we could use dual pistols as primary wapens?
Exactly, instead of having a primary weapon you trade it in for a second pistol, which when you press '1' or use the mouse wheel to switch to where your primary would be, then you would simply draw out to pistols instead. -
ZmasterzeroZ wrote: »Exactly, instead of having a primary weapon you trade it in for a second pistol, which when you press '1' or use the mouse wheel to switch to where your primary would be, then you would simply draw out to pistols instead.
ok my english is bad so to understand you realy
your primary pistols can be like 2 DE's and than u can swith to ur secondairy pistol? -
BENickvaes wrote: »ok my english is bad so to understand you realy
your primary pistols can be like 2 DE's and than u can swith to ur secondairy pistol?
Okay, your primary would would be throw out in exchange for dual wielding secondaries. In the case of the DE, in the primary slot you would pull out two DEs, in the secondary slot, you could still have one, because it's lighter, quicker to reload, and more accurate. -
ZmasterzeroZ wrote: »Okay, your primary would would be throw out in exchange for dual wielding secondaries. In the case of the DE, in the primary slot you would pull out two DEs, in the secondary slot, you could still have one, because it's lighter, quicker to reload, and more accurate.
okay so your idee is to run around with 3 pistols? 2 as prim and 1 as sec? -
ZmasterzeroZ wrote: »No, you only carry two pistols with you. You can pull them both out in the primary slot, or you can pull one out in secondary to move faster.
okay, and what happens when u take ur sec (1 pistol) shoot 4 bullets and whitch to ur prim 2 pistols do you have than less ammo? -
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BENickvaes wrote: »okay, and what happens when u take ur sec (1 pistol) shoot 4 bullets and whitch to ur prim 2 pistols do you have than less ammo?
he explained that. one of those two would be your normal pistol, so its ammo would be taken down...i think -
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BENickvaes wrote: »yes but that ton of guys will be owned on far range and there K/D will go down realy fast
btw i have to go now but i will react again when i'm back, have fun guy's
That one of the risks of using this system. It helps to reduce the OP idea of it. You have no primary so over distances it wouldn't be to great.
On a side note, this system would not be usable in Pistol Only matches!!!!!!
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