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  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    What could possibly happen? Wikileaks hasn't released any tactical or strategic data. So far, at least, all of the information is simply very embarrassing to the people in power because it exposes all of their backroom dealings.

    Find me one 'casualty' caused by wikileaks...



    Military prisons are nothing like civilian prisons. I'm pretty sure you don't see any of that type of violence. Also, he hasn't gotten anyone killed, and I'm sure most of the people in military prison don't really care for the government much anyway...

    This poor soul is taking the full force of mis-treatment that is still to dam easy to administer. All thats needed are a few words.... Terrorist. treason.. ETC... These are enough to make your average sheeple look no further. Cos we all know the truth and trust our leaders. Dam let me get back to American Idol and stop being finickity. You Slag!
  • wikileaks has a virus that can take over the world and ppl or willingly downloading it atm
  • wikileaks has a virus that can take over the world and ppl or willingly downloading it atm

    U actually believe that? Tho maybe it can leap out of your pc and infect all your family with-in 10 miles! Dam now I am scared:(
    Dont trust those dam Wiki-leak slags!
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    As for the r4pe charges, its a harsh name for what he did. Allegedly of course, the act itself was removing/intentionally breaking condoms while doing two chicks.

    i ate her Twitters :p

    But they keep coming back !

    :eek: === *BURP*
  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    Let's not forget about Bradley Manning. He gave Wikileaks the documents, and is paying the price. He has been kept in solitary confinement for seven months, a practice that most of the civilized world regards as torture, and this torture is being committed in our name with our money. He made this possible, and if you support Wikileaks, you need to support their sources.

    Free Manning.

    The military justice system works differently than the traditional justice system.

    Also you give up several of your rights when you join the forces. Solitary confinement isn't that unusual and is not torture according to international law.
  • I do like the leaks themselves as it put to rest one of my biggest internal debates.

    The potential WMDs in Iraq.

    It is good to know they existed.
  • As previously stated, Asange was actually arrested over an obscure law related to having intercourse without a condom. Rape was simply a rumor spread to damage his public image. Wikileaks itself has not done anything illegal, and all information it publishes is acquired legally. Additionally, Julian Asange is not an American citizen, and is not bound by US law.

    The DDoSes against various sites were entirely the work of /b/. Asange isn't stupid, he wouldn't try something like that.

    Accurate. Assange used to be a hacker, thus is being held responsible for the cyber attacks. He no longer deals in such business as he was arrested for those charges AGES ago. By legally, he is using his rights given by the Freedom of Information Act
  • by the way, the unblocked version of the site is here http://wikilieaks.se. Try this link if it doesn't work. wikileaks.se
  • DUKEofYORK wrote: »
    U actually believe that? Tho maybe it can leap out of your pc and infect all your family with-in 10 miles! Dam now I am scared:(
    Dont trust those dam Wiki-leak slags!

    It actually is true. Rather it isnt a virus but a computer program like many others that allows sharing of information and control between multiple computers. This "virus" is an exe that sets up a control frame for the main computer. After installing it and activating it, the main computer will have total access to the computer, thus will use it as a "zombie" computer for its cyber warfare.
  • PeRsuazn wrote: »
    It actually is true. Rather it isnt a virus but a computer program like many others that allows sharing of information and control between multiple computers. This "virus" is an exe that sets up a control frame for the main computer. After installing it and activating it, the main computer will have total access to the computer, thus will use it as a "zombie" computer for its cyber warfare.

    I am all for that- if it is making the "truths" that have already been shown about the hidden agenda being carried out under our noses. If I can help in some small way, be it allowing my pc to aid the spread of needed information etc. Then I am a willing participant. Know your enemy!
  • PeRsuazn wrote: »
    by the way, the unblocked version of the site is here http://wikilieaks.se. Try this link if it doesn't work. wikileaks.se

    it is wikileaks.ch , officially hosted by switzerland

    there are hundreds of mirrors, but spread this site
  • PeRsuazn wrote: »
    It actually is true. Rather it isnt a virus but a computer program like many others that allows sharing of information and control between multiple computers. This "virus" is an exe that sets up a control frame for the main computer. After installing it and activating it, the main computer will have total access to the computer, thus will use it as a "zombie" computer for its cyber warfare.

    no, it is not, stop spreading misinformation

    it's an insurance file, secured with 256bit encryption that is pretty much uncrackable without lifetimes of brute forcing. the password will be released if anything happens to wikileaks or Assange, and its probably the only reason he's alive.

    I have downloaded the file myself. Assange called the file "history insurance"...
  • doop51 wrote: »
    The military justice system works differently than the traditional justice system.

    Also you give up several of your rights when you join the forces. Solitary confinement isn't that unusual and is not torture according to international law.

    John McCain once said solitary confinement "crushes your spirit and weakens your resistance more effectively than any other form of mistreatment." He would know, considering he was POW in Vietnam.

    7 months solitary *IS* torture whether powerful people admit it or not. It's a shame they ever released that stupid pole smoker, he has done irreparable harm to our nation's policies.
  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    no, it is not, stop spreading misinformation

    it's an insurance file, secured with 256bit encryption that is pretty much uncrackable without lifetimes of brute forcing. the password will be released if anything happens to wikileaks or Assange, and its probably the only reason he's alive.

    I have downloaded the file myself. Assange called the file "history insurance"...

    Rofl, where did you get this information from?
  • To all of you who think assange r4ped the 2 women. The evedence is stacked against this theroy, after he "r4ped" the first women she still posted on her facebook that she thought assange was a great guy blahdy blahdy blah. Then 2 days after he "r4ped" the second they both " met up" and got assange arested, the facebook coment was also removed. I my opinion, someone who wants wikileaks stoped , an american, payed the two women plenty if money to say this about assange. Nothing can happen to them so wouldn't you take the cash?
  • badsack1 wrote: »
    wiki leaks is dangerous

    How so? Do you even know or you just repeat what some misinformed relative said?
  • HairyFlap wrote: »
    To all of you who think assange r4ped the 2 women. The evedence is stacked against this theroy, after he "r4ped" the first women she still posted on her facebook that she thought assange was a great guy blahdy blahdy blah. Then 2 days after he "r4ped" the second they both " met up" and got assange arested, the facebook coment was also removed. I my opinion, someone who wants wikileaks stoped , an american, payed the two women plenty if money to say this about assange. Nothing can happen to them so wouldn't you take the cash?
    The facts in the case are probably legitimate, the question is whether or not it constitutes r4pe beyond doubt.


    The act of coercion was nailing them without a condom (removed or broken).
    It probably went down like this, although its for the witnesses to prove and court to decide on; He banged one of them, halfway in he removed the condom or it broke and he didn't replace it, she pointed it out but he said naaah lets keep going, she of course didn't decline.
    Silent approval is not consent in Sweden, it has to be spoken, which is why this scenario is easily turned in to coercion - r4pe.

    But yeah, no doubt the chicks were convinced to file a report (be it by the police who realized after being told what happened that it was a r4pe, or by foreign government representatives), this even being illegal is pretty unheard of. And they aren't very bright.
  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    John McCain once said solitary confinement "crushes your spirit and weakens your resistance more effectively than any other form of mistreatment." He would know, considering he was POW in Vietnam.

    7 months solitary *IS* torture whether powerful people admit it or not. It's a shame they ever released that stupid pole smoker, he has done irreparable harm to our nation's policies.

    In a statement from the Quantico Marine Corps base information office, the military further elaborated on Manning’s treatment as a “maximum custody detainee” – in other words, as a prisoner held in maximum security.

    “Pfc. Manning, as well as every other maximum custody detainee, is allotted approximately one hour of television per day,” the statement reads. “He may view any of the available channels. Viewing time may fluctuate slightly depending on the number of detainees being held at the time, but each detainee will be allotted an equal amount.”

    The statement, entitled “Safety and Security = Job #1 at the Brig,” and written in response to charges that Manning is being mistreated, asserts that Manning is allowed to converse with other prisoners “as long as the conversation does not interfere with good order and discipline.”

    In response to questions about how much time Manning gets outside his cell everyday, marines at Quantico’s prison say he is “allotted one hour of recreation time per day, as is every other maximum custody detainee.”

    Depending on the weather, this recreation time may be indoors or outdoors. “Activities may include calisthenics, running, basketball, etc.,” according to the statement.

    It also addresses the charge that Manning is being held in cruel conditions – specifically, that he is not allowed to exercise in his room. “No detainees are allowed to exercise in their cell. As a matter of safety, all exercise must be supervised.”

    As to whether Manning gets sheets and blankets, the marines at Quantico allowed only that Manning “is issued adequate bedding.”

    The statement emphasizes that a “maximum custody detainee” receives some of the same privileges as the general population, including sending and receiving mail and visitations. Manning also gets one hour of television, a “hygiene call, reading and outside physical activity without restraint.”

    Maximum security prisoners are under constant supervision due to a “high probability of escape.” This includes “those likely to be dangerous or violent, and those whose escape would cause concern of a threat to life, property, or national security.”

    Mr. Malinowski of Human Rights Watch says questions he would have regarding Manning’s treatment is, “Do the lights go out at night? Is he being held in conditions that are conducive to sleeping at night, or does it seem they are trying to deny him that?”

    If Manning is denied bedding, or forced to sleep with lights on, or on “a hard bed that is impossible to lie on, then that would suggest that they would be surreptitiously trying to keep him from sleeping,” Malinowski says. “And that is insanity-inducing.”
  • PeRsuazn wrote: »
    Rofl, where did you get this information from?

    From Julian Assange, the announcement he made, the twitter post calling history insurance, and the thousands of people like me that downloaded the 1+ gb file just waiting for the key to open it.

    This is a classic blackmail move, where if anything happens to him, the password is released and even more embarrassing material is released.
    badsack1 wrote: »
    wiki leaks is dangerous

    ...dangerous only to the powerful people who have dirty things to hide...

    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    The facts in the case are probably legitimate, the question is whether or not it constitutes r4pe beyond doubt.

    We're talking about two women who worked closely with a CIA funded anti-Castro group for years, disappeared, only to surface when the government needs someone on their crap-list taken care of. They are most certainly CIA assets and probably being paid quite well to go on with this.
    doop51 wrote: »
    Maximum security prisoners are under constant supervision due to a “high probability of escape.” This includes “those likely to be dangerous or violent, and those whose escape would cause concern of a threat to life, property, or national security.”

    I find it interesting that Manning does not fit any of those criteria.
  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    We're talking about two women who worked closely with a CIA funded anti-Castro group for years, disappeared, only to surface when the government needs someone on their crap-list taken care of. They are most certainly CIA assets and probably being paid quite well to go on with this.

    Doesn't relate in any way to the facts of the case.

    V3RTeX wrote: »
    I find it interesting that Manning does not fit any of those criteria.


    Traitors tend to fall under the "threat to national security" category.
  • "Dont shoot the messenger" just went out the window:)
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Doesn't relate in any way to the facts of the case.

    These "facts" consist of ALLEGATIONS from two witnesses whose integrity has serious doubts. If I say you touched my pee pee, would you consider that a "fact" as well?
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Traitors tend to fall under the "threat to national security" category.

    His security clearance has been revoked. There is nothing he could possibly do to expose more secrets, and we both know that. He poses no threat at all. He is being held in solitary without trial for the purposes of punishment, and that's about as unconstitutional as it gets.
  • V3RTeX wrote: »
    These "facts" consist of ALLEGATIONS from two witnesses whose integrity has serious doubts. If I say you touched my pee pee, would you consider that a "fact" as well?



    His security clearance has been revoked. There is nothing he could possibly do to expose more secrets, and we both know that. He poses no threat at all. He is being held in solitary without trial for the purposes of punishment, and that's about as unconstitutional as it gets.
    Its for the courts to decide whether or not the witnesses are credible.
    Political agendas can not be considered though, since we have this thing called freedom of speech.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Its for the courts to decide whether or not the witnesses are credible.
    Political agendas can not be considered though, since we have this thing called freedom of speech.

    Okay, you're right on that. It's just a shame that these days it's the guy who has to prove innocence and not the other way around.

    TBH, I'm actually not terribly concerned about the European charges, it's the fact that they seem to be 'holding' him until the U.S. can formulate charges on him and keep him in a hole like Manning.

    If that happens, I will know for sure who the real enemy of freedom is. I swear I can't even pay any taxes without feeling guilty about supporting terrorism...