amazing cristmas crates are bugged or manipulated
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Noone knows what the true percentages are. For all you know, since they are limited edition, the percentages are higher!
4 guns in one crate would infact cause people to buy less crates, since they have an equal chance of winning 4 weapons in one type of crate, rather than buying multiple types of crates.
Your logic isnt the greatest.
u r so damn right genius..
maybe i am not as smart as u r.
but i know a couple guy won the halloween crate, he won ak 6 times, n not getting the kriss.
he wants the kriss only,instead of that gay ak...
explain...
n what if i want just the awm xmas instead of any other 3 of them, means i had not choice,,, so w d f.. is still better, i don think so. . . -
dont u understand wat i am saying?
the chances of winning a weapon is not 3 in 7
the chances of getting it if it is placed in one of the capsules is 3 in 7
therefor u cant see a weapon 20 times without winning once
it is not random anymore
but faked by z8 games
I thought of this a very long time ago. I came to the conclusion that some items like GP and sprays can appear multiple times, so if there's 4 guns in all this mess and 20 capsules that all have sprays or GP that just lowered your chances of getting the guns. :S -
Spot on, the amount of zp crates i bought not just xmas but very rarely win permanent guns does not add up with the odds of winning, anyone who has a basic understanding of maths could figure that !... so are we being completly ripped off , no cos ppl do win but z8 ( smilegate ) can not tell us its completly as random and fair as they make out, at the end of the day they make there money from ppl buying zp, all we ask as paying customers is a fair chance off winning..!
Look at it this way... Everything in the description of the crate is in a capsule.... well think of it this way. There may be 1 of each gun in there but 10 of each of the other items... What are your odds now? exactly not very good. -
I have -_- you can only see 7 slots doesnt mean there are only 7 slots.... which means you sir need to go back to school for more than just math.
so what does this tell u when u see a weapon in one of these capsules?
its a 3in 7 chance to get it and a 4 in 7 chance that it is outside of ur spots -
but dont u find it weird that the new weapons inside the crates are always outside of our 3 items we get
doenst make u think
common the new crates arent realistic
Theyre there to give people an insentive to buy more. It doesnt mean you nearly won it. There 3 items you do win are what truely come up in the random selection.
Its not unrealistic at all... the best real world example I can think of is carnivals (or the likes)
If you see you nearly got that hoop over the pole, youre going to buy more hoops to try again. Same principle here.forever119 wrote: »u r so damn right genius..
maybe i am not as smart as u r.
but i know a couple guy won the halloween crate, he won ak 6 times, n not getting the kriss.
he wants the kriss only,instead of that gay ak...
explain...
n what if i want just the awm xmas instead of any other 3 of them, means i had not choice,,, so w d f.. is still better, i don think so. . .
Because some obviously have a higher chance of winning.
Youre more likely to win a Desert Eagle than you are to winning the AWM.
Personally I prefer a shot at all 4 guns at once rather than having to buy 4 different crates for the same chaces. Even if they were in different crates, the chances of winning that weapon wouldnt be any different. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Theyre there to give people an insentive to buy more. It doesnt mean you nearly won it.
this is what i find i delusive and misleading
z8 games just places them there so that more and more kids try there luck because they see it so often and think ohhhhhh this waas so close . next time i will win it for sure!!!
its just not right by z8 games or who ever came up with this
and this doesnt make z8 games look any good
it just proves how greedy they are
patch was good tho -
this is what i find i delusive and misleading
z8 games just places them there so that more and more kids try there luck because they see it so often and think ohhhhhh this waas so close . next time i will win it for sure!!!
its just not right by z8 games or who ever came up with this
and this doesnt make z8 games look any good
it just proves how greedy they are
patch was good tho
No it doesnt. Most companies (involving a level of gambling) do this. It doesnt make them greedy at all. Thats just your perception of it -
ITT: People that think everything displayed in the capsule prises have an equal chance at showing up. Think of the black market like a slot machine. The lower payouts have a higher chance of showing up while the jackpot (777, or a perm gun in this case) barely ever shows up at all. Sure you might get one 7 (you might see a perm gun), but getting all 3 to win isn't likely.
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yeah u cant say the truth cause ur a mod
What truth?so u find it ok that z8 games fakes these crates just that kids buy more stuff
Theyre randomly generated images of the items in the crates as far as I know. So yes, I find it ok... youre just angry because you didnt win. I spent all my ZP on crates yesterday, didnt win anything and im not here making a conspiracy thread about Z8.
Most other games will do the same thing with their versions of the Black Market. ZP is their only source of income. They need players to buy it so they can stay in business. -
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »What truth?
Theyre randomly generated images of the items in the crates as far as I know. So yes, I find it ok... youre just angry because you didnt win. I spent all my ZP on crates yesterday, didnt win anything and im not here making a conspiracy thread about Z8.
Most other games will do the same thing with their versions of the Black Market. ZP is their only source of income. They need players to buy it so they can stay in business.
u can tell me why u nearly never see items in the other crates
these crates give the impression that it is really easy to win the weapons because they show up so many times
in other crates the main prizes dont show off every 5. crate but maybe only every 50. weird isnt it? -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »What truth?
Theyre randomly generated images of the items in the crates as far as I know. So yes, I find it ok... youre just angry because you didnt win. I spent all my ZP on crates yesterday, didnt win anything and im not here making a conspiracy thread about Z8.
Most other games will do the same thing with their versions of the Black Market. ZP is their only source of income. They need players to buy it so they can stay in business.
u dont find it misleading i understand but thats because u know the technical stuff behind the bm
im pretty sure a 12 year old and i know how many of these play this game, doesnt know the facts behind the bm.and ur telling me that this isnt misleading him? -
I thought Z8 was also getting money from ads and sponsors
Doh!
Ahh forgot about that.. but even so, its nothing compared to ZP.u can tell me why u nearly never see items in the other crates
these crates give the impression that it is really easy to win the weapons because they show up so many times
in other crates the main prizes dont show off every 5. crate but maybe only every 50. weird isnt it?
Becasue theyre limited edition. They want you to buy as many as possible before they dissapoear for another year.
You can sit here and argue with me about the morality of such a thing, but everyone uses this simple marketing strategy. Youre just mad you didnt win.
I didnt win.. but there you go.. you know what youre going in for when you buy the crates... no matter what the chances are.. youll always have a higher chance of losing. -
ok either these crates are bugged or z8 games is trying to fool us
simple explanation
i bought 45 of these crates and saw 10 weapons without getting them
this cant be unlucky because the percentage would be 0.36percent
(4/7^10)
this didnt happen to just me
my friend also saw weapons 5 times without getting it(onlz talking about the cristmas amazing crates)
u guys should really think about it
conclusion i have
z8 games puts the pictures of the weapons there so that u thought it was really close and that u were just unlucky but the next time u will get one weapon
all they want is too keep u spinning and u to spend more zp
think about this cause it is not just random unlucky ness
So you are basing your theory on the fact that you saw certain weapon(s) several times without getting it? Without knowing the whole process behind it?
Geez, people and getting more stupid nowadays.. -
OP is an idiot.
Learn to program and you'll realize how the crates are.
Nothing can be completely random, especially in computers. It's all percentages.
And if it was literally RANDOM with everything in the same percentage of winning, how would Z8 make ANY money?
1 gun, 9 other items. 10% chance to win a gun. See how easy that would be?
The guns in the crates have a lower percentage of being recieved. Let me make it out for you.
There is one first prize. We'll make the symbol 1. Then 9 other prizes. Lets mark them a b c d and e f g h i . Now there's a total of 10 prizes. But they can add more variables.
Here's how it'll look.
1 ( first prize. ONE variable. )
a
a
a
a
a
b
b
b
b
b
c
c
c
c
c
d
d
d
d
e
e
f
f
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g
g
h
h
i
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j
j
See how the chance of winning is completely different? That's how these pretty much work. Some items have lower percentage to be won. That's how they make profit. Every person with common knowledge knows this is how they work. -
Correct, except there are about 1996 of the other items and 4 top prizes in the xmas crates.See how the chance of winning is completely different? That's how these pretty much work. Some items have lower percentage to be won. That's how they make profit. Every person with common knowledge knows this is how they work.
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