In-Game Reporting
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This would create a way for high pingers to get rid of low-pingers... why? cause due to MASSIVE amounts of reports this would make, half of them wouldnt be analysed... meaning every low-ping player that are actually reporting real hackers, would just leave the game thinking the mods don't care about the players and only care about crash....
Only high ping players usually kill a good game.... just look at counter-strike. -
:I Figured. And this is an actual response? Or is it an assumed response?[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Already been discussed very recently....
Whats stopping them is the fact that it will be abused.... Noone will get banned as support will be spammed with false reports
I mean, I understand how it would be abused, but there has to be a way to limit the amount of report spam.
All I'm saying is it's practical, and if there was a way to elminate false reports/spam, this could be the best thing that happened to this game since x-Trap.
And again, I don't mean to be aggressive. I just wanted to know what was up. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Already been discussed very recently....
Whats stopping them is the fact that it will be abused.... Noone will get banned as support will be spammed with false reports
Same story about suggesting prizes you`d get for reporting...
Abused by every newb which gets owned. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Already been discussed very recently....
Whats stopping them is the fact that it will be abused.... Noone will get banned as support will be spammed with false reports
..it could be introduced, but only if:
the ingame report is honor-based.
for example (just example purposes)
there are honor points lowest is 1, highest is 25.
everyone starts at 13. sending a report option reduces your honor count by one.
BUT, if it turns out to be a real cheater, the honor point is refunded, and you are given an extra honor point as a bonus.
also, breaking any ingame rules: such as swearing, etc will cause you to lose 1 honor points each offense.
there are 3 levels of honor:
Honorable (19-25 honor) (this player is able to call votes on both teams during the game, and use the ingame report feature)
Neutral (6-18 honor) (can call votes as it is now, cannot use ingame report system)
Dishonorable (1-5 honor) (cannot cast any vote to kick people, cannot use the ingame report feature)
honor points can also be gained by proper useage and helpful nature in the fourms. (this promotes more of the population to use the fourm. z8 can decide how to reward them. ) -
As to opposed to now?[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Already been discussed very recently....
Whats stopping them is the fact that it will be abused.... Noone will get banned as support will be spammed with false reports
Here is the way I see it:
You cannot want people to report people cheating and deny them a tool to make it easier to do so, even if it will be abused. And I certainly agree that there will be abuse. This is where trust levels come in. Everyone starts with a trust level of zero. If the report is valid, it goes up by one. If the report is not valid, it drops by ten. This gives you the ability to sort reports by trust and work on reports that are more likely to be valid and work your way down the list. Since I am a programmer, among other things, I won't make predictions about it being easy. I do predict that trust levels would make your job as moderator easier. -
The problem with that would be actual cheaters having their reports over looked. And this happens TOO often with this game. Enough of those, and you have no more honor...it could be introduced, but only if:
the ingame report is honor-based.
for example (just example purposes)
there are honor points lowest is 1, highest is 25.
everyone starts at 13. sending a report option reduces your honor count by one.
BUT, if it turns out to be a real cheater, the honor point is refunded, and you are given an extra honor point as a bonus.
also, breaking any ingame rules: such as swearing, etc will cause you to lose 1 honor points each offense.
there are 3 levels of honor:
Honorable (19-25 honor) (this player is able to call votes on both teams during the game, and use the ingame report feature)
Neutral (6-18 honor) (can call votes as it is now, cannot use ingame report system)
Dishonorable (1-5 honor) (cannot cast any vote to kick people, cannot use the ingame report feature)
honor points can also be gained by proper useage and helpful nature in the fourms. (this promotes more of the population to use the fourm. z8 can decide how to reward them. ) -
The problem with that would be actual cheaters having their reports over looked. And this happens TOO often with this game. Enough of those, and you have no more honor.
that is z8's fault, and can be solved with a simple support ticket.
but i see where you are coming from as it has happened to me before,
they do need to get more people to look at the tickets because obviously ther are undermanned for that task. -
A support ticket for 50+ reports hasn't helped me with reporting people. :Ithat is z8's fault, and can be solved with a simple support ticket.
but i see where you are coming from as it has happened to me before,
they do need to get more people to look at the tickets because obviously ther are undermanned for that task.
Look at it this way. The in-game reporting is an extension of the webform on the site.
There will be no difference interface based, nor will it make a difference at how they are viewed or counted. -
i think adding the ingame report but limiting it to a sertain group of peoples would lower the bad reports spam. adding an honnor system to it would also improve its speed.
by exemple:
to do the ingame report, you need to be buter bard and up. its a safe bet to say any1 who reached that rank legitly got a fair idea on what is a hacker and what is not. ofcourse theirs farmers and ect but its not too bad.
also, when a report is reviewed by a gm, it person who sended the report get graded, so those who do acurate reports get their reports sended to the top of the priority list while those who send bad reports get send to the bottom of the priority list/get blocked from reporting. ofcourse keeping the suport report for those who are not meeting the requirment but still got som1 to report will make it fair for them ( its also a safe bet that for som1 to take hes time to go to suport he is serious about the report. ofcourse thats dosn't mean hes acurate about it.) -
You keep saying "limit it to certain people or honour"
THAT WILL NOT WORK
Simply because hwo would it be limited to certain people? Rank limit? Most high ranks farmed their ranks... Ranks does not = intelligence
There are many high rankers tht also falsely accuse others... Rank limit is impractical.
Honour also wouldnt work. Disconnections count towards your honour and make it bad. You could be the most trustworthy player and have bad honour... therefore eliminating the ability to report in-game
Also, most cheaters/criers have average+ honour anyway... So they could still vote.
You could suggest a Honour reset to be able to report if you had bad honour.... but whats to stop the kids from doing the same thing?
Ingame reporting it impractical... it WILL get abused. There WILL be a ton of false report.... There is NO WAY to limit the people that use it.
Genuine reports may get overlooked and support will be backlogged to next year if that thing came.
It will NEVER come. -
Well, how abused is the reporting system as of now? I mean, it would be just as accessible, given not as handy, as an in-game reporting system would be.[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »You keep saying "limit it to certain people or honour"
THAT WILL NOT WORK
Simply because hwo would it be limited to certain people? Rank limit? Most high ranks farmed their ranks... Ranks does not = intelligence
There are many high rankers tht also falsely accuse others... Rank limit is impractical.
Honour also wouldnt work. Disconnections count towards your honour and make it bad. You could be the most trustworthy player and have bad honour... therefore eliminating the ability to report in-game
Also, most cheaters/criers have average+ honour anyway... So they could still vote.
You could suggest a Honour reset to be able to report if you had bad honour.... but whats to stop the kids from doing the same thing?
Ingame reporting it impractical... it WILL get abused. There WILL be a ton of false report.... There is NO WAY to limit the people that use it.
Genuine reports may get overlooked and support will be backlogged to next year if that thing came.
It will NEVER come.
Seeing as it has been simplified to reduce confusion and increase efficiency in the reporting system, don't you think even the dullest knife in the drawer could figure it out?
And I think they were referring to a seperate honor system, not the one in-game. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Already been discussed very recently....
Whats stopping them is the fact that it will be abused.... Noone will get banned as support will be spammed with false reports
The kick votation is getting abused too and no one cares about THAT one. -
Not really.z8games is working in that
Not relevant.The kick votation is getting abused too and no one cares about THAT one.
You seem like one of those people.but you wants hack or no? i want this system for kick stupids brs
Could we stay on subject? I'm just trying to ask some questions. -
wasnt talking about the atcual honnor in game but more of a special honor for the report system ( maybe another name for it?)[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »You keep saying "limit it to certain people or honour"
THAT WILL NOT WORK
Simply because hwo would it be limited to certain people? Rank limit? Most high ranks farmed their ranks... Ranks does not = intelligence
There are many high rankers tht also falsely accuse others... Rank limit is impractical.
Honour also wouldnt work. Disconnections count towards your honour and make it bad. You could be the most trustworthy player and have bad honour... therefore eliminating the ability to report in-game
Also, most cheaters/criers have average+ honour anyway... So they could still vote.
You could suggest a Honour reset to be able to report if you had bad honour.... but whats to stop the kids from doing the same thing?
Ingame reporting it impractical... it WILL get abused. There WILL be a ton of false report.... There is NO WAY to limit the people that use it.
Genuine reports may get overlooked and support will be backlogged to next year if that thing came.
It will NEVER come.
rank dosn't equal inteligence or skill, but its show a player is serious about the game, its not fail prove, but its like having a diploma, a diploma don't prove ur smart, it just prove you took the time to go to university. but its still looked for, why? because its a good base on to what to look for. yes they will have false reports, this is why its limited. its not like suport got no false reports and limiting the rank and making players with a tendency of having acurate reports to the top of the priority list will make it even less of a cluster **** (sry for the swear but thats just what i call it.
)then the current report system. puting a ingame report system have proven to work already, so why would it not work on cf? -
proof*, diploma is for high school, it's*, support*, any*, runon..., accurate*, sorry*, putting* an*, has*.wasnt talking about the atcual honnor in game but more of a special honor for the report system ( maybe another name for it?)
rank dosn't equal inteligence or skill, but its show a player is serious about the game, its not fail prove, but its like having a diploma, a diploma don't prove ur smart, it just prove you took the time to go to university. but its still looked for, why? because its a good base on to what to look for. yes they will have false reports, this is why its limited. its not like suport got no false reports and limiting the rank and making players with a tendency of having acurate reports to the top of the priority list will make it even less of a cluster **** (sry for the swear but thats just what i call it.)then the current report system. puting a ingame report system have proven to work already, so why would it not work on cf?
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how is fixing that virus from your pc coming along?proof*, diploma is for high school, it's*, support*, any*, runon..., accurate*, sorry*, putting* an*, has*. dark u too rofl.
edit: i just re read my post and see even more errors 0,o. i think i got brain dead while writhing that post.
that and i don't have an auto correct program on atm
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