@ Calling out Euro's
Intro
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
Comments
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Nothing you can do about it... i think its mainly because back in the day good Euros didnt want to play with high pings and dont want to come back to this game since its about girls with golden guns try to kill each other with heart grenades..
^just my toughts
I agree with everything you said and its really nice to see that there is sum1 who tries to help the european community in this game. -
I r uro and i not stoopid.
On Topic: yeah the Euro competitive community could do with a refit and there have been a few decent Euro Competitve clans, but they always seem to die too soon.
also the rules of the main Euro league (ESL) leave something to be wanted... i mean i havnt checked in a while but allowing stupid weps such as the Scar lite is only going to encourage some bad peeps. -
I r uro and i not stoopid.
On Topic: yeah the Euro competitive community could do with a refit and there have been a few decent Euro Competitve clans, but they always seem to die too soon.
also the rules of the main Euro league (ESL) leave something to be wanted... i mean i havnt checked in a while but allowing stupid weps such as the Scar lite is only going to encourage some bad peeps.
New esl rules are awesome no sl no xm8 no m12^^ -
Me and some other guys are trying to make a spanish community ( forum and a ladder ), maybe in the future there will be some spanish competitive clans.
I know ye guys split from vs.spain or something which was good. No point having a clan with 50 people, they could make 3 teams of like two 15 men teams and then a 20 man pub clan. -
Nothing you can do about it... i think its mainly because back in the day good Euros didnt want to play with high pings and dont want to come back to this game since its about girls with golden guns try to kill each other with heart grenades..
^just my toughts
I agree with everything you said and its really nice to see that there is sum1 who tries to help the european community in this game.
exact reason why im going back to CSS tonight. -
Intro
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
agreed, this community is dead and vile. im a low rank on this account atm, the moment i kill someone with a spop armor and a golden m4 im apparently a hacker and because i defeated there advantage without armor and a golden m4 and a stick like woman i hack. granted it is likely that i would flame back in the event it was vise versa but in true honesty it is rediculous how much we flame eachother....
no offense to older people in this community but i believe the main problem is there are to many kids aswell. unwilling to try something new.
the only way this will change is if a wogl EU server is introduced (probably wont ever happen) but if it did people who wanted to be competative would play there and the rest could play in the normal servers. if they filter a room for just one gun type they can filter a server for a same purpose but different rules. the same thing could be introduced for the NA community.
i used to enjoy this game. but now with such a cultural divide and with there being seperate servers now i wish they never made an EU server, i play more in echo now than i do in UK for that reason alone.
i want this community to be competative but considering theres only maybe 5-6 teams that are competitive that arent to put it lightly noobs..
then its just down right horrible.
i think more advertisement needs to be done towards people with different cultures in order to get the competative message across because atleast 60 of the community dont even understand english
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I saw alot of kids and "adults" that played against me in scrims and started to flame just cause I was in Transilvania.
So where is the fairplay when you start chating about how good you are and/or how dumb we are.
I cant really say GG GH or NS when I see the other team calling me noob or unskilled even if I play good.
There are alot of kids in this game, thats why the European Community is trash. -
Intro
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
EU>NA.we have the best players .starting in me and ending in the rest of my clan.the best players from europe are all together in my clan so ..the lack of competitive is normal. -
ezbitz2010 wrote: »EU>NA.we have the best players .starting in me and ending in the rest of my clan.the best players from europe are all together in my clan so ..the lack of competitive is normal.
There is no such as BEST EUROPE CLAN. you got good and decent and beginner. Ezbitz you should grow up a bit and think before you type a tip is to read the whole thing.xXjohnboyXx wrote: »i stopped reading here.
a really dumb generalization as the basis for all that?
fail.
if you accutaly would continue to read i define this generalization in certain aspects ( wogl , clan players , community etc)
Hassssssh i agree ESL is going the right way. -
Intro
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
I don't suppose you've considered the possibility that quite a lot of the people in the community have absolutely no interest in playing competitively? It's not that they are not capable of doing it or dont know about it, I personally think that most people prefer to play with a bunch of people that speak the same language in a pub in a 99ppl clan, without the hassle of scheduling dates, organising matches and getting to know the necessary procedures of leagues. I.e. most people are either too lazy or just not interested.
The problem with the few that are interested may also be the fact that clans are constantly being created and disbanded and a lot of people simply do not have the patience, time or will to stick with a clan, try to build chemistry and then play together in leagues if it gets disbanded within a week or 2.
But I agree with you, people should get off their asses and try to get their mates to come to pugs and participate in drafts and the like (slightly hypocritical as it may be coming from the likes of me...). Just bumping the post in the forums isnt good enough.
/2 cents -
Nothing you can do about it... i think its mainly because back in the day good Euros didnt want to play with high pings and dont want to come back to this game since its about girls with golden guns try to kill each other with heart grenades..
^just my toughts
stolen :P,but thats my problem with the "new" crossfire too^^. -
Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
1. Lol? Are u talking bout me
:mad:
2. Most of what you said is true but already know. Anyway good to post em all on one place.
3. "I came here to have fun and maybe even get better . "
Lol? And now that you "got better" you went to COD Black Ops? With People using Tube to kill players from theyr base? Or using Komando and kill People from 5 meters with knife?
You're making urself wrong
Beside these facts the post is good and helpfull. +1 -
Intro
Okee , i decided to make this thread since there some things that are really frustrating me. Some things i will discuss in this thread :
WOGL, Clans , Community & Attitude , PUGS and Drafts
To start of i wanna make a statement
The european community at this moment is garbage and dumb.
Middle
We as europeans have the habbit of blaming other people when we self are the cause. People say WOGL is a failure of a league, WOGL has stupid rules etc. THAT is not true we decide as clans not to show up for matches not to take WOGL serious ( only 2 Matches played this week). We decide to stay on our own clan server playing ******ed 4v4 , 5v5 , 3v3's
When are the Europeans going to see the light to reach out to a competitive crossfire?
One of the biggest problems is that we dont speak the same language.
Europe is accutaly a divided space with many many cultures this is the reason why we see so many clans based on nationality or culture. People need to start seeing the bigger picture here. Clans rather would have 99 members with scars and spops and play on clan server all day to reach rank 1 in clan ranking just because they dont know that there is something else. It comes down to : We have the players but there to "dumb" to play competitive. The idea of a clan will need to change the goals will need to change and the motivation will need to change.
The Community will need to do this people need to be NICER to each other the whole attitude of teams and players needs to change.
5 out of 10 scrims are now resulting in leaving or flaming each other. I come on crossfire to have fun and to play a good game and maybe to get better. If i wanted to be made out for all different kind of things i would go somewhere else. So i wanna see GG's NS's GH's etc. Help other teams to get better so in the end you have a great opponent. Think out of the box dont discriminate teams because there Polish , Turkish or Blue.
People say PUGs and Drafts are dead , well there not i can spamm all i want and i will easily get a pug going but he i dont want to do that? people need to come to the vent there self people need to ask there friends to play a pug with them PEOPLE NEED TO WAIT on the ventrilo.
I cant force you guys to come , the ventrilo is up if you need us were on there or on xfire. The basic idea is that we provide you guys with a server and we manage it for you guys but if you guys arent coming dont blame it because they have bad staff because i have something better to do then spamm 24/7 for a pug or draft. WOGL and EUPUG suspended the european Drafts just because people are not coming so think outside the box again and get on there spam your friends if you want to play a pug and dont sit behind your computer playing publics and trolling on the forum.
End
Thank you for reading and i hope you see that there needs to be a BIG change to get the european community better. Please discuss and post i like to hear your opinions and your idea's and yea dont troll..
take the game more seriously,seriously xD.
just play the freakinggame and enjoy it,and stop insulting pub players as noobs and call clan match players pros,its just A FREAKING GAME.go online,play for a couple of hours and go back to your life,its so easy. -
take the game more seriously,seriously xD.
just play the freakinggame and enjoy it,and stop insulting pub players as noobs and call clan match players pros,its just A FREAKING GAME.go online,play for a couple of hours and go back to your life,its so easy.
afcourse man but there are people out that want to play competive for fun and improvement. its not about being no life and stuff but people wanna get better in the game they play i think? but most people are to dumb to think about it and just act like an bunch of idiots that dont use brains and unskilled weapons just cuz their bad. but as soon they start to play leagues esl and stuff and played with wogl guns and stuff they improve a lot.
not saying that evry one should play wogl rulles and stuff but people that want to get better should give it an shot to improve and play as a team playing leagues together so you grow in the game will its still playing for fun. my english is horible when i have to write it down but people should just give it an try
anyways PZ
(IM AN NOOB ON BLACK OPS)
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