Wierd?

Easy: Aim for the head more often.

i agree famas failed on cf. for a light weapon to much recoil. and +5 bullets will probably make this rifle to be more used.

That's one of the biggest problems with this game. They have all kinds of weaponry with the same ammo doing different damage.

The gun doesn't decide the amount of damage/penetration/wounding capability unless it's using a silencer that slows down the speed of the bullet. The ammo controls the power and woundage; Either the caliber, the grainage, the powder load or the type. They have different 5.56 weapons doing different damage, different .308 weapons doing different damage. All kinds of equivalent rounds/loads doing different damage. A lot of their guns are messed up and don't have the right features. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Put it this way: Out of the .223 weaponry you have Famas has a 488mm barrel length, the Galil has 460mm, the M16 is 506mm, Type89 420mm, TAR-21 is 460mm, AR-70 450mm, K2 465mm, G36K 320mm, QBZ-97 520mm, Steyr AUG is 508mm, the SCARL comes in at 355 or 457mm, SCARH is 406mm, The SG552 is a 226mm but the SG in game doesn't appear to be that small, it's probabyl an SG551LB at 454mm, the XM8 has 318 or 508mm and M4's come in at 370mm. (Standard, you can of course get shorter barrels for most of those guns.) They all have different accuracy and damage potential which is wrong for the factors that matter. There are ways to rationalize some it but they don't really hold up under speculation.

Bet you didn't realize all those guns are just various .223 blasters, did you?

They obviously had a very rudimentary knowledge of guns when they decided half of what they did; Or they threw out reality to create various levels of power/accy/weight with different kinds of weaponry.

Factors that might matter would be: Barrel length and twist, weight could help or hurt firing stability, higher RoF can increase spray instability, muzzle breaks, silencers, recoil buffering, ammo (Everything about the ammo from grainage(bullet weight) to powder load to materials in the bullet, if it has a core, if it's hollowpoint, soft tip, whatever)

Things that won't effect stability: The fact that you start out with a gun won't make it worse just because you're expected to upgrade to something better.

The Dragunov is a much bigger fail than the Famas though. Even though it is horribly weak and inaccurate for a full barreled .223 rifle it has it's basic characteristics intact. The Dragunov is nothing like it's supposed to be. Even as an FPK.

Tsk Tsk
there will always be hack.ers :rolleyes:

Ransie wrote: »

what the hell servers are you playing on? Every game I go in has hackers. More so as Gr in GM.

You're not seeing hackers. You just suck at the game.

justininin wrote: »

west coast.

I agree with most of you. I don't know how but after everything was over my AK has been useless. IT's been a gun with a sht load of recoil. I mean hitting 30 or less to the chest with 1 shot 30meters away is entirely bull sht. I mean I turn the corner 2 shots off I can clearly see the shots on the wall(more the sure it wasn't someone elses). The sniper quick scopes me. I end up 0 dmg. :P sad.

I have no problem with the AK at all. It is a big, powerful destroctocon rifle with moderate burst accy. It's pretty close to real life. Fire careful and you kill people from a distance, unload at close range and you're not gonna lose.



Lag and kick vote are much bigger issues than hackers atm, there are next to 0 hackers and those that hack against me because I'm owning them look like they get auto-booted within 2 rounds.

proslayer2 wrote: »

ur a noob if u think the hakers will ever b gone lmfao rofl!!!

You sound like a hacker that just got told!

justininin wrote: »

Ok a wierd thing I've been seeing... Since hackers are gone. Now the game is pretty much wack. Like at night you can't login sometimes. Like they can't keep both things balanced. The server and hackers. It's one or the other.

Also why is the famas so weak? In Black Opz it's really strong. Now I know what people are gonna say. "well were not black opz" In black opz they say the famas is a great weapon. In this game it's practically trash. Even I say it. Click here for a machinima video They say the famas is a great gun. Im pretty sure Black opz is more realistic than this video games x10. The gun has 45 ammo. We have 25. ammo look at 1:24. No extension on the clip or anything. Not even 2 taped clips together (yes they have that I saw later on in the video AKA dual mags). I mean people are gonna flame at me like usual. We have 25 ammo? They have 45 ammo? Im pretty sure theres a few different versions of the famas, but I don't remember one with 45 ammo. I don't own black opz, but don't yell at me that theres something special with it or some perk.

The power on the famas as you see there is quite powerful. Idk? Whats your opinion? So let lolli yell at me some more and let some flamers get on there way.

About the FAMAS problem, well, firstfully we need an upgrade in the actual FAMAS, because the G1 version is old and have worser internals and as well a smaller mag, wich means it has a big flaw compared to the other guns.

About the CoD BO ammo, the dual mag gives you 15+ ammo per mag, the standard mag has 30 rounds, it's a FAMAS g2 with the standard stanag magazine, when there's no dual mags, they have the Ammo boost perk (wich i don't remember the name right now, sorry), so they still have a FAMAS with 30 bullet mag, so standard mags to them :P

proslayer2 wrote: »

ur a noob if u think the hakers will ever b gone lmfao rofl!!!

Stop disrespecting the forummers please, if you're not going to collaborate with the suggestion, just don't post.

justininin wrote: »

well i mean Z8games imo have done a pretty good job compared to a few weeks ago. I give them props.

They did a quite good job cleaning the cheaters from the game, no pub hacks and almost none of the V.I.P. ones, i have to agree with you.

Lolli_Roger wrote: »

I'm sorry to disappoint you, Justin, but I agree with you. It indeed seems that whenever they have "fixed" one problem, the previous "fixed" problem starts acting up again.

And I also agree with you on the FAMAS. No I won't deny that I have a serious anti-passion for that gun (as well as most things French for that matter), but if it only had 30 bullet magazines, like all the other assault rifles have, it would already be 10x better than it is now.

Also, they need to stop making guns with a triple-burst alternative fire. It doesn't work for the FAMAS, it doesn't work for the Glock 18, it doesn't work for the XM8 Adv, it doesn't work, period.

My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops

If the 3-bullet burst was really Realistic, then they wouldn't have any recoil, why? Because teh 3 bullets get out of the barrel before the recoil kicks out, but you'll have a penalty later, because the kick of the 3 bullets will be together against your shoulder, so you'll have to leave a small delay in between the bursts because of the kick.

About the Stanag 30-round mag, they have to upgrade this FAMAS to the G2 FAMAS, so it'll accept the stanag mags (idk if the G1 accept the stanag mags)

justininin wrote: »

agreed. The triple fire aim is worthless. like 50% of the Gp crates are ripped off. Ak-47 camo,Deagle camo, and Anaconda adv, Steyr aug. Those are the only good guns. Winchester is good in some hands. How do you use a triple fire rate gun anyway? Aim one of the head shoot 2 above it? I honestly don't get it. Ty for agreeing with me.

Yea. I've been watching. When hackers are gone then glitchers or game problems come up. Fraps was blocked. Yet now there are super jumps in the game, there running through pillars in egypt and everything. See now at pacific time -8gmt. around 8:30-9:30 I can't log in. For some reason. I mean it's gotten better, but it's not fully fixed. I hope it is by christmas. That's all I wish for. The game to be fixed.

The famas. I say it's under op. even with +5 bullets it would be a "Famas G2". The power should be pretty high, but not to high. I mean. Even the best machinma players are even using the famas over an Ak-47. Hutch and someone else.

Lot's of things are wrong with this game that can easily be fixed. No more triple fire rate. A better Famas. MAybe hackers are gone. Glitchers are gone and were all good. I mean the game would be at the top again.

It's like tapeing something, you'll tape the hole, but the water will find another hole, they need to change the pipe >.>

About the power of the FAMAS, it should've be higher than some of the non-bullpup rifles, because it has almost no recoil-0catching systems, so it keeps all the power that the cartridge will create.

Don't get rid of the 3-burst option, just make it realistic...

DrunkEntrop wrote: »

That's one of the biggest problems with this game. They have all kinds of weaponry with the same ammo doing different damage.

The gun doesn't decide the amount of damage/penetration/wounding capability unless it's using a silencer that slows down the speed of the bullet. The ammo controls the power and woundage; Either the caliber, the grainage, the powder load or the type. They have different 5.56 weapons doing different damage, different .308 weapons doing different damage. All kinds of equivalent rounds/loads doing different damage. A lot of their guns are messed up and don't have the right features. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Put it this way: Out of the .223 weaponry you have Famas has a 488mm barrel length, the Galil has 460mm, the M16 is 506mm, Type89 420mm, TAR-21 is 460mm, AR-70 450mm, K2 465mm, G36K 320mm, QBZ-97 520mm, Steyr AUG is 508mm, the SCARL comes in at 355 or 457mm, SCARH is 406mm, The SG552 is a 226mm but the SG in game doesn't appear to be that small, it's probabyl an SG551LB at 454mm, the XM8 has 318 or 508mm and M4's come in at 370mm. (Standard, you can of course get shorter barrels for most of those guns.) They all have different accuracy and damage potential which is wrong for the factors that matter. There are ways to rationalize some it but they don't really hold up under speculation.

Bet you didn't realize all those guns are just various .223 blasters, did you?

They obviously had a very rudimentary knowledge of guns when they decided half of what they did; Or they threw out reality to create various levels of power/accy/weight with different kinds of weaponry.

Factors that might matter would be: Barrel length and twist, weight could help or hurt firing stability, higher RoF can increase spray instability, muzzle breaks, silencers, recoil buffering, ammo (Everything about the ammo from grainage(bullet weight) to powder load to materials in the bullet, if it has a core, if it's hollowpoint, soft tip, whatever)

Things that won't effect stability: The fact that you start out with a gun won't make it worse just because you're expected to upgrade to something better.

The Dragunov is a much bigger fail than the Famas though. Even though it is horribly weak and inaccurate for a full barreled .223 rifle it has it's basic characteristics intact. The Dragunov is nothing like it's supposed to be. Even as an FPK.

The bullet types in each weapon should be named, because some of these weapons seems to use soft-cored bullets while the others seems to use FMJ ones with high grainage, that's kinda strange...

Also, about the Acc, if it was realistic, the ak-47 wouldn't hit a thing in crossroads map distance, it's sights are roughly worked on and it's internals are loosely placed and they "shake" everywhere, making it highly inacurate.

The M16A1 should've have a better Acc than the m4a1, but it would kick a lot more and cost a lot to keep it, but it's RoF isn't so low and the damage would be the same, a little less because of the barrel lenght, wich makes the bullet lose speed and gain acc, but it would be pretty much the same, as both of'em use the same cartridge and ammo.

justininin wrote: »

west coast.

I agree with most of you. I don't know how but after everything was over my AK has been useless. IT's been a gun with a sht load of recoil. I mean hitting 30 or less to the chest with 1 shot 30meters away is entirely bull sht. I mean I turn the corner 2 shots off I can clearly see the shots on the wall(more the sure it wasn't someone elses). The sniper quick scopes me. I end up 0 dmg. :P sad.

I can honestly say this game has lots of flaws that can easily be worked like "tankers (referring to people that lagg)" so technically your missing. looks like your hitting them but there internet doesn't respond fast enough so there standing there. in your eyes, but in there eyes there 7inches away from there.

The clan system should be redone. I say when you "kick/demote or promote/disband" it will all sit on 1 security question. Once you answer it you can kick and blah till you either log out on the website. Also a filter of who hasn't played in the past week/month/3months would be nice. It would help leaders filter who hasn't/who has.

there are so many good ideas yet Z8games doesn't apply to it. Like make it say "we gotta have this. It's a must." Actually. Imo. "Z8games gotta push harder to put in these suggestions. I mean you can't carefully hand it to them. You gotta show them it. Explain how it would help, and really push for the idea. You gotta step it up. If not M.A.T(suba games FPS) is gonna win. or CS:S or Combat arms. AVA, but even if we are in the leader we need to sit far away as possible on top.

The "tankers" also have problems with the hit system, they pretty much have to unload an entire mag on you to get 70~89 dmg on a low pinger, the issue is affecting everyone, not just the low pingers, but also the high pingers and the average players who cannot hit the other average players.

Yes, Z8games shall not relax only because they have the most players, that fact is only because a big average of the players that play CF doesn't have a good PC, many of'em say that they'll quit CF as quick as they get a newer PC capable of getting high FPS and a good gameplay in these other games (I personally liked A.V.A., but my PC has like, 6~7 years now, and even when i bought it it wasn't the best one, so CF is pretty much the only thing i can play.) So Z8, gotta work on so many things, like: