Canada vs Usa Crossfire?
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TrollMunzta wrote: »Not a human? Should I post some articles about Human Reproduction for you as well? You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Epic fail on your part kid.
I edited. What i wanted to say is, you made it, you do whatever you want with it. It's not able to think or anything, it's not a fully developed human yet.
If you made it by mistake or whatever, if the couple's ok with abortion, than it's ok to do it, since it's a personal choice. -
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TrollMunzta wrote: »Not a human? Should I post some articles about Human Reproduction for you as well? You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Epic fail on your part kid.
1. It is already a human, since fertilization has occurred.
2. No one has the right to fuck around with someone else's life. Just because they're an idiot and created something "by accident" doesn't mean they don't have any responsibility.
3. The unborn has a right to live. If they don't like their life, they can go kill themselves. No one else has the right.
Pwn some Canadian ass, Cran Reader. The Melon has got your back. :cool: -
1. It is already a human, since fertilization has occurred.
2. No one has the right to fuck around with someone else's life. Just because they're an idiot and created something "by accident" doesn't mean they don't have any responsibility.
3. The unborn has a right to live. If they don't like their life, they can go kill themselves. No one else has the right.
Pwn some Canadian ass, Cran Reader. The Melon has got your back. :cool:
We should probably let the child-bearers have the majority of say in this matter, rather than the fertilizers who are generally the ones mainly responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. -
Sure, so you think it's good for a children to be disliked by his parents since they didn't want it but where forced to keep it? He will be treated like trash ect. isn't it better to suppress it while it's not a fully made human
Just because their parents are dumb does not mean they don't deserve at least the chance to live. They can still have a good life. In fact, many of history's greats had abusive parents and/or a horrible childhood.
For the sake of ending this argument, I will concede to you. Since I thought of the exact same argument you just made whilst debating the issue with myself a while back, though ultimately I reached my current stance. Nothing personal, we's all cool.
Shad0wK1LL wrote: »Alright, enough of this abortion stuff, again, a guy makes a joke, and one person takes it too seriously and starts beef. Stay on-topic, you're going to get this thread closed.
I agree. Back to OT: I hope USA would win, just because I don't want to be shamed. On the other hand, Canadians aren't as overweight, and therefore will be able to move their hands/fingers faster, already giving them an advantage. Mmmm, maybe that's why LPK lost against LL. Just couldn't deal with dem skinny-finger reflexes.
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Canadians aren't as overweight, and therefore will be able to move their hands/fingers faster, already giving them an advantage. Mmmm, maybe that's why LPK lost against LL. Just couldn't deal with dem skinny-finger reflexes.
lol.. Inference skills ftw. -
Dagnastier wrote: »We should probably let the child-bearers have the majority of say in this matter, rather than the fertilizers who are generally the ones mainly responsible for an unwanted pregnancy.
That's also true. Which is why I believe exceptions MUST be made IF any region were to pass an abortion ban. Unfortunately, most suggested abortion ban bills are made by idiots who don't bother to include the aspects necessary to make it a fair law. -
Just because their parents are dumb does not mean they don't deserve at least the chance to live. They can still have a good life. In fact, many of history's greats had abusive parents and/or a horrible childhood.
For the sake of ending this argument, I will concede to you. Since I thought of the exact same argument you just made whilst debating the issue with myself a while back, though ultimately I reached my current stance. Nothing personal, we's all cool.
A few of them had a troubled childhood, what about the others? The ones who never got great but rather died of starving or unspeakable misery? What about pregnancy due to ra.pe?
You say everyone should have a shot at life and I tend to agree, but are you a supporter of social services? social programs for the poor? do you give to charity or even support the whole idea?
You see, if a single mother honestly knows she can't take care of her upcoming child and the society forbids her to abort, then are you going to be in favor of governmental support? Let's face it, not everyone has a supporting family you know.
If you "doom" a human being to poverty, the least you can do is make sure and pass social laws to ensure he REALLY has a chance at a prosperous future. Your views on abortion lack that approach I think, that awareness of the consequences of prohibiting it. I always found it ironic that the same people that condemn abortion are the ones who want low taxes and no social support for the poor outta their pockets. Just remember: abortion would be non-existent in a perfect society.
Think about it. -
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Dagnastier wrote: »A few of them had a troubled childhood, what about the others? The ones who never got great but rather died of starving or unspeakable misery? What about pregnancy due to ra.pe?
The one s who never "got great" still got to experience life, which is the ultimate....hmmm I don't want to say "the ultimate gift" and sound like some religious nut, but you get my point. It's interesting to consider if living life and then dying is better or worse than just not living in the first place. In a country like the United States, most of those unwanted children have the means to survive to adulthood.Dagnastier wrote: »You say everyone should have a shot at life and I tend to agree, but are you a supporter of social services? social programs for the poor? do you give to charity or even support the whole idea?
I am not a socialist, but I am in favor of social services. This is what gets me into trouble with so-called "conservatives." And yes, of course I give to charity, as I am sure the vast majority of all people do.Dagnastier wrote: »You see, if a single mother honestly knows she can't take care of her upcoming child and the society forbids her to abort, then are you going to be in favor of governmental support? Let's face it, not everyone has a supporting family you know.
If a single mother is responsible enough to realize she can't take care of a child by herself, she should be responsible enough not to have unprotected sex in the first place. (Please, let's not get into the broken condom argument right now. There is a time and place for that. I just don't wanna write too much in a single post.)Dagnastier wrote: »If you "doom" a human being to poverty, the least you can do is make sure and pass social laws to ensure he REALLY has a chance at a prosperous future. Your views on abortion lack that approach I think, that awareness of the consequences of prohibiting it. I always found it ironic that the same people that condemn abortion are the ones who want low taxes and no social support for the poor outta their pockets. Just remember: abortion would be non-existent in a perfect society.
In fact I do not want "low taxes and no social support for the poor". I know of the "same people" you are talking about (*cough cough* Republicans *cough cough*), and I am glad I am not one of them.Dagnastier wrote: »Think about it.
It is an intriguing issue, and I will continue to think about it. I thank you for the opportunity for this civil, thoughtful discussion.
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The one s who never "got great" still got to experience life, which is the ultimate....hmmm I don't want to say "the ultimate gift" and sound like some religious nut, but you get my point. It's interesting to consider if living life and then dying is better or worse than just not living in the first place. In a country like the United States, most of those unwanted children have the means to survive to adulthood.
I am not a socialist, but I am in favor of social services. This is what gets me into trouble with so-called "conservatives." And yes, of course I give to charity, as I am sure the vast majority of all people do.
If a single mother is responsible enough to realize she can't take care of a child by herself, she should be responsible enough not to have unprotected sex in the first place. Please, let's not get into the broken condom argument right now. There is a time and place for that. I just don't wanna write too much in a single post.
In fact I do not want "low taxes and no social support for the poor". I know of the "same people" you are talking about (*cough cough* Republicans *cough cough*), and I am glad I am not one of them.
It is an intriguing issue, and I will continue to think about it. I thank you for the opportunity for this civil, thoughtful discussion.
You didn't answered about the r4pe thing -
You didn't answered about the r4pe thing
See my previous post wherein I said there had to be exceptions in any anti-abortion law. Like I said, this is why I oppose most anti-abortion bills that are put up to state referendum. Because the idiots who make them don't put in any exceptions for rape, incest, or the health of the mother.
EDIT: I'm referring to post #46, in case you haven't found it yet... -
Abortion is murder.....And yes the fetus is a human, so is the embryo....Saying anything different debases human life.
If you want to see some logical evidence. Here is some; 70 years ago, even thinking about abortion was wrong, now in one generation, we are debating what is a human and what isn't.
What happens in another generation? will toddlers be next?
I am not addressing r@pe, ect. this is simply an argument against debasing human life. -
Getting back to the topic of this thread, I think that would be an interesting match, Canada vs. US, but the only question would be, Who is the best US players, in terms of strictly KDR, (the OP said PLAYERS not teams, thus alluding LPK nd LL.) (but to be truthful, throwing ADEIGA in the match probably wouldn't be the best choice either...)
idunno,
but if they pic the Combatanants, i want to seez the match
100,000 ZP ON USA!!!!!!!!! -
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