Yesterday I got VIP hacked
Ok, I got VIP hacked during the mission (made me lose), played another game where I was carrying the team and got kicked for hacking. This ****ing made play 4 or 5 more games to complete the daily S&D mines mission.
So what? For most of us this is old news – the legit player (me) got kicked in a game while owning while the aimbotter using vip hack didn’t even have a vote kick initiated for him to get kicked (which is ****ing ridiculous).
What really frustrates me is that this script kiddie was hacking like there’s no tomorrow on his FIRST LUIETENANT account with zp weapons (m4a1-custom) and pretending he’s just pro and not hacking. The reason we have to put up with this bull**** (high ranked players using noob scripts) is because z8/g4box is taking a soft stance on hackers. The hackers know that they can toy with us and get away with it. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
Why is it that out of all the hackers I have reported (1 blatant waller, aimbotters and 1-shot killers), NONE OF THEM GOT PERMANENTLY banned? If they got banned it was only temporarily. A mod recently posted that reports result in a permanent ban, but from my experience this is simply not true.
It is totally unfair for us legit players to have to put up with this bull****.
So what? For most of us this is old news – the legit player (me) got kicked in a game while owning while the aimbotter using vip hack didn’t even have a vote kick initiated for him to get kicked (which is ****ing ridiculous).
What really frustrates me is that this script kiddie was hacking like there’s no tomorrow on his FIRST LUIETENANT account with zp weapons (m4a1-custom) and pretending he’s just pro and not hacking. The reason we have to put up with this bull**** (high ranked players using noob scripts) is because z8/g4box is taking a soft stance on hackers. The hackers know that they can toy with us and get away with it. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
Why is it that out of all the hackers I have reported (1 blatant waller, aimbotters and 1-shot killers), NONE OF THEM GOT PERMANENTLY banned? If they got banned it was only temporarily. A mod recently posted that reports result in a permanent ban, but from my experience this is simply not true.
It is totally unfair for us legit players to have to put up with this bull****.
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »OK yeah this...true. If they hack, ban them forever. They can change their IP, but you made them waste their life, money, and account.
You would pwn them and make them cry then they would destroy their computer.
Double win!
That's also true but idk why would they give IP bann ... Just delete his account and I don't think that he will ever try to hack -
Really now. You should know better than to come QQ on the forums. Just save the replay and report him. There is no greater way to get back at the hackers than to get their accounts banned. And they DO get banned. I've personally reported at least three 1st LTs who eventually got banned.
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l0lsmilyface wrote: »ok yeah this...true. If they hack, ban them forever. They can change their ip, but you made them waste their life, money, and account.
You would pwn them and make them cry then they would destroy their computer.
Double win!
winnaarr!!!!! -
A mod recently posted that reports result in a permanent ban, but from my experience this is simply not true.
It isn't true, I know one guy that got reported and banned as he was QQ'in at the one that reported him and the ban was for a week, so reported replays are not permanent bans (unless they hacked before maybe), and that's even if they get banned in the first instance.
Getting a user banned is harder than you would think, I reported blatant VIP hackers using the old system and:
Nothing happened after like 4-5 months.
So I sent the report in again.
I enquired about it on the forum.
I send Saidin a PM about the issue a month after that.
I then sent in the report using the new system as z8 blamed the incompetence on that system.
Result:
This hacker that was Vip'ing at master serg rank (or below) and is now 1st LT rank and is still not banned (want replay? just holla).
And the same is true for every other real hacker that I reported, except one person that I reported recently that appears banned.
Basically we were doing a clan war against BR's (didn't know until the game started), the clan was C.F MoD, and one of there members was speeding, they tried to say he wasn't hacking and that they were z8 staff so "you cannot report", maybe thats why z8 gave him a ban, but thats just my theory (he is my only banned hacker). -
So basically it took you half a year to report using the new system..UKDissident wrote: »It isn't true, I know one guy that got reported and banned as he was QQ'in at the one that reported him and the ban was for a week, so reported replays are not permanent bans (unless they hacked before maybe), and that's even if they get banned in the first instance.
Getting a user banned is harder than you would think, I reported blatant VIP hackers using the old system and:
Nothing happened after like 4-5 months.
So I sent the report in again.
I enquired about it on the forum.
I send Saidin a PM about the issue a month after that.
I then sent in the report using the new system as z8 blamed the incompetence on that system.
Result:
This hacker that was Vip'ing at master serg rank (or below) and is now 1st LT rank and is still not banned (want replay? just holla).
And the same is true for every other real hacker that I reported, except one person that I reported recently that appears banned.
Basically we were doing a clan war against BR's (didn't know until the game started), the clan was C.F MoD, and one of there members was speeding, they tried to say he wasn't hacking and that they were z8 staff so "you cannot report", maybe thats why z8 gave him a ban, but thats just my theory (he is my only banned hacker).
Anyway.
Cheaters banned from reports do get permanent bans.
It is however very likely that the automatic system get to the cheaters before the people reviewing reports does. I don't know how they operate of course, but I imagine they can't stack bans on top of bans. -
So basically it took you half a year to report using the new system..
Yes because it took you 6 months to do nothing and you only just put the new system in place which was used and still doesn't function effectively.
And the banned player was reported after the first, go figure.on his FIRST LUIETENANT account with zp weapons (m4a1-custom) and pretending he’s just pro and not hacking
Maybe it isn't his "quem quer zp?" lol -
UKDissident wrote: »Maybe it isn't his "quem quer zp?" lol
No he was German. I had a German player on my team and he was pretty annoyed too.
Anyway, I hope z8 targets ***********' hacks (you know, the hacking site which ends in .de).
edit: I just noticed a massive x-trap update. I hope it will help.
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I watched the replay and I noticed that the aiming reticule of the player aimbotting disappears (which shouldn't happen).
Here's the screenshot:
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No he was German. I had a German player on my team and he was pretty annoyed too.
Anyway, I hope z8 targets ***********' hacks (you know, the hacking site which ends in .de).
edit: I just noticed a massive x-trap update. I hope it will help.
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I watched the replay and I noticed that the aiming reticule of the player aimbotting disappears (which shouldn't happen).
Here's the screenshot:
Happens with guns which have a 'secondary' scope if I recall. Not sure, been a while since I reviewed replays. -
The part when you said it doesn't function correctly. I suggest you go re-read the forums and ask around. It surely HAS been working correctly.
Before saying all this stuff, you should look around. Maybe people who were thought didn't hack DID, and even admitted it further along the road. Those people even got IP banned. If you ever played with a GM in game, which many of the GMs host in game rooms, they are not hard to find, they get the hacker, ban and kick them right there.
The auto ban system is surely working.
Replays are tricky, and not the best way to tell if someone hacks. The GMs can't just take one or two time "looking suspicious." People DO get lucky, and people DO have skill. It's no doubt in my mind you have thought atleast one skilled player hacked. I've seen it many times where someone thinks someone cheats, but then the guy reveals who he is on his main, and they're just like oh. Because the person is skilled.
If the ban was NOT permanent, the only reason I see was the Detection system got to them first. And, to the problem on before this was that, the way G4box got reports wasn't the best. So yea, probably some reports were lost, but that's why we have this new way, and detection system. Reports take a bit of time, it isn't a two second process, so yes, it is possible they won't be banned in the first few days, but if the GM feels they do, they WILL.
Just about for the many previous patches, a good chunk of each were dedicated to Anti-Hack measures. And it can't be denied it IS working. Even people known well on the forums, Like Kolby had got banned, IP banned IN GAME, and on the site. -
The part when you said it doesn't function correctly. I suggest you go re-read the forums and ask around. It surely HAS been working correctly.
Before saying all this stuff, you should look around. Maybe people who were thought didn't hack DID, and even admitted it further along the road. Those people even got IP banned. If you ever played with a GM in game, which many of the GMs host in game rooms, they are not hard to find, they get the hacker, ban and kick them right there.
The auto ban system is surely working.
Replays are tricky, and not the best way to tell if someone hacks. The GMs can't just take one or two time "looking suspicious." People DO get lucky, and people DO have skill. It's no doubt in my mind you have thought atleast one skilled player hacked. I've seen it many times where someone thinks someone cheats, but then the guy reveals who he is on his main, and they're just like oh. Because the person is skilled.
If the ban was NOT permanent, the only reason I see was the Detection system got to them first. And, to the problem on before this was that, the way G4box got reports wasn't the best. So yea, probably some reports were lost, but that's why we have this new way, and detection system. Reports take a bit of time, it isn't a two second process, so yes, it is possible they won't be banned in the first few days, but if the GM feels they do, they WILL.
Just about for the many previous patches, a good chunk of each were dedicated to Anti-Hack measures. And it can't be denied it IS working. Even people known well on the forums, Like Kolby had got banned, IP banned IN GAME, and on the site.
I see it working more and more. Mysteriously certain names keep coming back with new lower ranks attached...
And the GMs dont look at the reports? I know most of the reports I have sent in have resulted in bans.
Plus they obviously know what to look for, the amount of times Ive been told "good bye to your account, your reported" and Im still here...
I wish people got the point that there is a difference and just play.
Keep the QQ to yourself, and report afterwards. -
Happens with guns which have a 'secondary' scope if I recall. Not sure, been a while since I reviewed replays.
Yeah its the scope. Shows up as the scope of the SG/AK-Scope instead of the red dot sight.Dead_Or_Alive wrote: »How do you know if you report that you sent in with a reply resulted in a ban or if they took any action? Because ive sent in many reports where the people were obviously hacking but i dont know if they were punished for hacking in any way.
I reported 3 people and they got banned. How do I know? I looked them up and all of them haven't played since September 10. -
The part when you said it doesn't function correctly. I suggest you go re-read the forums and ask around. It surely HAS been working correctly.
It doesn't function correctly how can you have a VIP hacker still be playing after he has been reported not once but many, many times? Using all z8 report systems and even Saidin was made aware of this.Replays are tricky, and not the best way to tell if someone hacks. The GMs can't just take one or two time "looking suspicious." People DO get lucky, and people DO have skill. It's no doubt in my mind you have thought atleast one skilled player hacked. I've seen it many times where someone thinks someone cheats, but then the guy reveals who he is on his main, and they're just like oh. Because the person is skilled.
Nah not at all.
I report obvious hackers everyone else has skill.
The guy in question for example can't kill everyone in 2 secs with a uzi can he? Maybe he should enter WOGL:rolleyes:
----Hack Report----
HACKERS IGN: Curpeta
ROUNDS IN QUESTION: All using '1 shot kill'/'aimbot' - However the final round shows without a doubt that this player was hacking as this player killed the entire team in 1-2 secs using 1 shot kill.
TYPE OF HACK USED: Believed to be VIP.
REPLAY: Here (Permanent link)
Looks like the noob made it to LT, he was master Serg in the game above (Profile) [ZP buyer too]
Maybe instead of cencoring this post you could forward it to someone that can take action? Theres no excuse for hacking never mind the passage of time. -
UKDissident wrote: »It doesn't function correctly how can you have a VIP hacker still be playing after he has been reported not once but many, many times? Using all z8 report systems and even Saidin was made aware of this.
So you're throwing all other proof and evidence to the fact it does work out the window and are only going by what you see and think... Argument seems groundless to me. -
I'm curious of one thing...
This report system, just because it gets to a player first with this measly 7-day ban prevents you from furthering it? That's just ridiculous. Plus, I've known people who admitted they hacked, and done so repeatedly, and still only get a 7-day ban. Nothing more.
System isn't working as intended. Its working, but its methods are pathetic and the pointless aspect is that its making reports redundant as it seems to take precedence over replays and a waste of time.
7 days is nothing. -
I'm curious of one thing...
This report system, just because it gets to a player first with this measly 7-day ban prevents you from furthering it? That's just ridiculous. Plus, I've known people who admitted they hacked, and done so repeatedly, and still only get a 7-day ban. Nothing more.
System isn't working as intended. Its working, but its methods are pathetic and the pointless aspect is that its making reports redundant as it seems to take precedence over replays and a waste of time.
7 days is nothing.
I think what they mean is the 7day ban is dealt out, and the players see that result, but the report still hasn't been gone over. There's no way that the system would prevent permanent ban because they had a temp already.
With all the reports coming in and the time it takes to make sure the guys in them are really haking. It will take time to get to them all. When the latest guy who reported, after hundreds if not thousands of others, comes and complains his report hasn't worked, they're just being impatient. -
Max_Skillz wrote: »I think what they mean is the 7day ban is dealt out, and the players see that result, but the report still hasn't been gone over. There's no way that the system would prevent permanent ban because they had a temp already.
With all the reports coming in and the time it takes to make sure the guys in them are really haking. It will take time to get to them all. When the latest guy who reported, after hundreds if not thousands of others, comes and complains his report hasn't worked, they're just being impatient.It is however very likely that the automatic system get to the cheaters before the people reviewing reports does.If the ban was NOT permanent, the only reason I see was the Detection system got to them first.
Trying to figure out why then that these MOD's keep point out as if that once the 7day ban from the detection is dealt out that their job is done for the day. If they could still increase the ban I don't see any reason why they would even note such in regards. Why would it matter if it got to them first if it wasn't the case? I'm sure it doesn't take that long to ban someone with the new system. (Like over 4+ months.) -
Trying to figure out why then that these MOD's keep point out as if that once the 7day ban from the detection is dealt out that their job is done for the day. If they could still increase the ban I don't see any reason why they would even note such in regards. Why would it matter if it got to them first if it wasn't the case? I'm sure it doesn't take that long to ban someone with the new system. (Like over 4+ months.)
Like I said, I believe they are just making the point that it gets to them first, then people come and complain before the real ban comes into play. As far as I've heard except from the occasional complaint, the report system has been working very well.
But yes, I can understand wanting to hear it described this way from the mod's them self, just to get that solid evidence of my assumption. -
Max_Skillz wrote: »So you're throwing all other proof and evidence to the fact it does work out the window and are only going by what you see and think... Argument seems groundless to me.
What evidence is there that it works? The best I've seen is a player cannot be found in the player list and that is most probably because they changed their name and nothing more.
There is no evidence it works what so ever and anything that could be considered evidence has been removed i.e ban list, the only evidence that I see is just people complaining on the forums they got temp banned when actually they didn't get banned at all, they just got suspended for a mere 7 days after probably hacking daily for 6 weeks if not longer.
On the other hand my evidence is real, tangible and documented;)I'm curious of one thing...
This report system, just because it gets to a player first with this measly 7-day ban prevents you from furthering it? That's just ridiculous.
Yea, I get the temp ban might have got him first excuse hence no permanent ban which actually means....
The hack detection possibly saves hackers from permanent bans, amazing:rolleyes: -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »OK yeah this...true. If they hack, ban them forever. They can change their IP, but you made them waste their life, money, and account.
You would pwn them and make them cry then they would destroy their computer.
Double win!
What he said.
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