Alright, seriously now... Seriously.
How is it fair for vote kick to remain in just so every person that has a positive score is kicked? That's all they care about. They don't understand hacking. All they see is positive score? Kick. Not even good positive scores, they were complaining about the ghosts hacking in this game and the best one was like 18 and 16.
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I did a great game, good score, finished my mission part way through, I kicked their asses, I laughed, they cried, I made a great play at the end, probably 10 seconds from winning the game when I get kicked.
How is this bull**** still allowed to flourish in the game? Seriously, what the **** is going on in your heads to keep letting these *******s ruin every good thing about this game?
REMOVE THE VOTE KICK
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I did a great game, good score, finished my mission part way through, I kicked their asses, I laughed, they cried, I made a great play at the end, probably 10 seconds from winning the game when I get kicked.
How is this bull**** still allowed to flourish in the game? Seriously, what the **** is going on in your heads to keep letting these *******s ruin every good thing about this game?
REMOVE THE VOTE KICK
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[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Go into an FFA or MM and tell me what happens when theres a hacker...
removing the kick vote will cause more problems than benefits
Like I stated in another thread yesterday, I have never once seen a hacker in FFA. In MM people get annoyed and play out the round or leave if they want to. AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING THAT. I don't have the luxury of playing out the round when I'm kicked which is a big component to finishing missions which you could finish as a win if a hacker is on your team unless everyone leaves or as a game if the hacker is on the opposing side.
I was doing the complex games missions when those hacks were out and frankly It was enjoyable when the hackers would swing by with the wallshotaimbot1hit whatever hack and spray down their entire team in 2 seconds and finish the rounds out really fast. No one really had to play with a hacker, it was just round start round over repeat repeat round over. Quick and easy. ;D Not that I don't enjoy playing but when the alternative is me getting kicked the real hackers are quite acceptable. I enjoyed the speed hackers in ghost mode, they were a lot of fun to kill and it didn't really make them play better since they couldn't land hits as much as we can't land hits on them. Entertaining to try though. Just like playing with the BR lag porters. I think the 1-hit kill hack is a bi.tch only in MM. In any other mode 1-hit is enough, you're probably getting sprayed anyways and you're gonna die. I didn't even notice it if it was used anywhere else.
It's not fair or fun playing against certain kinds of cheaters, box glitchers for example or people that drop through the floor, especially in MM, were/are completely ****ing ******ed. They are the worst kind of cheaters and should be banned over actual hackers for being just completely too goddamn stupid. You can't even fight them, there's literally no point to their cheating at all except to waste everyone's time, even their own and make them sit around. They get no benefit, they might as well be sitting in a cardboard box in their living room. Playing with some hackers though will probably improve your skills and you can have fun trying to kill them. What won't improve your skills or grant any kind of fun is if you kick every single person playing the game, whether they're cheating or not. It completely ruins this game.
Again remove vote kick and remove the penalty for dropping from or leaving a game. Whenever a hacker shows up boom. Everyone leaves, keeps their scores/XP/GP and starts a new room and plays like normal. Hacker gets to play by himself for being a ******. -
Solution: Don't play with noobs.
You can easily recognize them, cause they usually have something like "Killer", "Black", "Death", "PWN" or "Pro" in their name-tag to make themselves look cool.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »Solution: Don't play with noobs.
You can easily recognize them, cause they usually have something like "Killer", "Black", "Death", "PWN" or "Pro" in their name-tag to make themselves look cool.
My Suggestions: Ak-47 Custom Glock-18 Adv. M110 s.a.s.s. M4A1 Masterkey MAC 10 Suppressed XM110 Spec-ops
Hey, jerk. ;p
Who am I supposed to play with then? And where? I play on Delta, I don't think noobs should be allowed on delta but they infest it. How about a higher rank server? Or a K/D server then? Maybe I won't be kicked from there. Sure farmers, whatever, but seriously the server isn't just about rank, it's about having more skill in order to play while being there and not just getting totally rampaged on, which I do to everyone on Delta.
Just do one without the bonus to GP so people won't even want to be there unless they're looking for a challenge.
Delta is also nice because it has less hackers since they always have nub accounts to do that **** since they get banned. ;D -
AlessBallaz wrote: »MM doesn't affect KDR so i don't really care.
good point Lolli.
How is that a good point? Who wants to play with noobs EVER? Someone's always going to be a noob though and some people are always going to be better.
Again, I hand this challenge off to you also, where can I go to not play with noobs? ~_^ -
PurityNDeath wrote: »Hey, jerk. ;p
Who am I supposed to play with then? And where? I play on Delta, I don't think noobs should be allowed on delta but they infest it. How about a higher rank server? Or a K/D server then? Maybe I won't be kicked from there. Sure farmers, whatever, but seriously the server isn't just about rank, it's about having more skill in order to play while being there and not just getting totally rampaged on, which I do to everyone on Delta.
Just do one without the bonus to GP so people won't even want to be there unless they're looking for a challenge.
Delta is also nice because it has less hackers since they always have nub accounts to do that **** since they get banned. ;D
you play in delta? no wonder. BRs completely infest delta seeing as they cannot resist the +5% gp. -
PurityNDeath wrote: »How is that a good point? Who wants to play with noobs EVER? Someone's always going to be a noob though and some people are always going to be better.
Again, I hand this challenge off to you also, where can I go to not play with noobs? ~_^
with friends... -
Eurotrashed wrote: »you play in delta? no wonder. BRs completely infest delta seeing as they cannot resist the +5% gp.
They have their own versions of delta to infest. I just gave good reasoning to change that also. There are like 10 things that could be changed to make things better, choose 5 of them and make them happen. Higher rank servers with no bonuses, k/d servers, low ping servers, force them into the SA server, remove penalties for being kicked, remove kick vote all together, less people's capability to vote kick so the same stupid idiots can't vote kick people over and over and over again then leave and come back just to vote kick some more. FFS do ANYTHING and it would be great just to lessen the annoyance for awhile.[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »with friends...
What friends? Lulz. And even if I had friends that played I don't want to play the same boring people every time, how would that be any fun? After 2 games you'd know every move they're going to make. You'd never learn anything new or find better ways of doing things.
Also my clan is all Greeks so I don't actually play games with them, just chat about random Greek stuff. -
PurityNDeath wrote: »Like I stated in another thread yesterday, I have never once seen a hacker in FFA. In MM people get annoyed and play out the round or leave if they want to. AT LEAST THEY HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING THAT. I don't have the luxury of playing out the round when I'm kicked which is a big component to finishing missions which you could finish as a win if a hacker is on your team unless everyone leaves or as a game if the hacker is on the opposing side.
I was doing the complex games missions when those hacks were out and frankly It was enjoyable when the hackers would swing by with the wallshotaimbot1hit whatever hack and spray down their entire team in 2 seconds and finish the rounds out really fast. No one really had to play with a hacker, it was just round start round over repeat repeat round over. Quick and easy. ;D Not that I don't enjoy playing but when the alternative is me getting kicked the real hackers are quite acceptable. I enjoyed the speed hackers in ghost mode, they were a lot of fun to kill and it didn't really make them play better since they couldn't land hits as much as we can't land hits on them. Entertaining to try though. Just like playing with the BR lag porters. I think the 1-hit kill hack is a bi.tch only in MM. In any other mode 1-hit is enough, you're probably getting sprayed anyways and you're gonna die. I didn't even notice it if it was used anywhere else.
It's not fair or fun playing against certain kinds of cheaters, box glitchers for example or people that drop through the floor, especially in MM, were/are completely ****ing ******ed. They are the worst kind of cheaters and should be banned over actual hackers for being just completely too goddamn stupid. You can't even fight them, there's literally no point to their cheating at all except to waste everyone's time, even their own and make them sit around. They get no benefit, they might as well be sitting in a cardboard box in their living room. Playing with some hackers though will probably improve your skills and you can have fun trying to kill them. What won't improve your skills or grant any kind of fun is if you kick every single person playing the game, whether they're cheating or not. It completely ruins this game.
Again remove vote kick and remove the penalty for dropping from or leaving a game. Whenever a hacker shows up boom. Everyone leaves, keeps their scores/XP/GP and starts a new room and plays like normal. Hacker gets to play by himself for being a ******.
just becuase u made a thread saying u havent seen a hack in ffa doesnt mean they gonna remove it -
Yeah I almost want to agree with him, considering I got kicked from 2 rooms in a 5 minute period... I was 9-5 one game, and like 8-2 the other... As a ****ing ghost. And I got kicked for 1 of 2 reasons, 1- I was the only english-speaker in the room, 2- They though I hacked. Certainly got a lot of "AFF SPED HAK KIKA SKITISI" Like seriously, they were gonna kick me in another room too but I just left. Shame that at 7 30 in the morning the only people on are BRs and.. Well no that's it, They never sleep.
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PurityNDeath wrote: »I did a great game, good score, finished my mission part way through, I kicked their asses, I laughed, they cried, I made a great play at the end, probably 10 seconds from winning the game when I get kicked.
Same yesterday on Complex I did 30/8 (which is very good for me a GM noob), I, survived a couple of hackusations mid game, rounds were 12/12 all rounds all were drawn and I played for ages then out of the blue boom on round 12 I get kicked literally last second and it wasn't for ace as the ace was on the other team, a sneaky kick by a bunch of simpletons noone spammed F11 or even hackusated.
Simply spiteful brats that shafted me.
Then I did terribly like 10/18 and got kicked for hacking -.-PurityNDeath wrote: »Also my clan is all Greeks so I don't actually play games with them, just chat about random Greek stuff.
lawl, wdf did you join a Greek clan for?
With regard to 'playing with friends' to prevent kicks to be honest that is just a cop out.
The no 1 reason to stymie any improvement or removal of vote kick is "what if hackers come, how can I play" - Can't those worried about hackers just not play together with friends? and leave others alone. -
PurityNDeath wrote: »What friends? Lulz. And even if I had friends that played I don't want to play the same boring people every time, how would that be any fun? After 2 games you'd know every move they're going to make. You'd never learn anything new or find better ways of doing things.
Also my clan is all Greeks so I don't actually play games with them, just chat about random Greek stuff.
Then tough. You can play any game and find idiots playing with you. You'll have to deal with it if you're going to pub. -
1SILVEREAGLE1 wrote: »just becuase u made a thread saying u havent seen a hack in ffa doesnt mean they gonna remove it
It already doesn't exist in FFA. And ... And do you even think before you speak, seriously? Are you 4 years old? Is your brain riddled with some kind of disease? If you read ANYTHING you'd know that hacking is the least important part of vote kicking. And the thread was never about hacking in FFA. It is nowhere in the initial post and is completely beside the point. FFA has extremely little to do with anything. Does anyone even play that mode? It's the most annoying, stupid mode in game. Spawn, kill people, get spawned on and die. Repeat. No skills, just the luck of spawning on people and SPing through their hits until they die (Another thing that should be removed, there's no use for SP in this game at all. If it was removed FFA would be a lot more fun.)rawrjustrawr wrote: »Yeah I almost want to agree with him, considering I got kicked from 2 rooms in a 5 minute period... I was 9-5 one game, and like 8-2 the other... As a ****ing ghost. And I got kicked for 1 of 2 reasons, 1- I was the only english-speaker in the room, 2- They though I hacked. Certainly got a lot of "AFF SPED HAK KIKA SKITISI" Like seriously, they were gonna kick me in another room too but I just left. Shame that at 7 30 in the morning the only people on are BRs and.. Well no that's it, They never sleep.
This is what happens to me every day. I think even if you're not agreeing with me (Why not? >_>) You're still helping prove my point. -
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UKDissident wrote: »lawl, wdf did you join a Greek clan for?
With regard to 'playing with friends' to prevent kicks to be honest that is just a cop out.
I've been with them a long time. They asked me to help them be good and I've just hung around and chatted with them ever since. Nice guys.
Unlike the trashy foreigners everywhere. -_-;
Absolutely it's a cop out, it's their lack of ability or motivation to bring about beneficial change. With so many great ideas abounding it can be nothing else. No one could want the system as it is except idiots and abusers. The infrastracture shouldn't allow for them to be the ones that get their way.[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Then tough. You can play any game and find idiots playing with you. You'll have to deal with it if you're going to pub.
How about you do one goddamn ****ing thing to try and fix it instead of sitting around patronizing people all day? You lazy ****ing stupid ****sucking ******ed mother ****ing useless piece of **** ****** ****ing ****. -
Thing is, vote kick should be in every non-console mmofps, just for the sheer fact you get loads of hackers. Though, on the other hand of things, because of all the worthless brazilians that can't speak a lick of english, the vote-kick system fails miserably in this game. I don't really think it needs to be removed. But then again unless i'm on early for work I play with tons of friends, because they're low-pinged. If I randomly play rooms in pub it's too much of a lagger/Brazilian-portugese experience to make it enjoyable.
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This is from personal experience so idk how this goes for the rest of you but every time i join a room with someone actually hacking no one bothers to kick or if they do its usually the last round or so when theres no point anymore. Sometimes i get kicked myself for trying to be the good guy and booting the speeder or w/e in my team. I'm all for removing the kick vote system, unlike some of you I have faith in xtrap and the new system added to detect malicious software
Also, i wanna be able to play try hard and REALLY make these guys cry and they wont be able to do anything about it. huashuashuausahusahsuh -
rawrjustrawr wrote: »Thing is, vote kick should be in every non-console mmofps, just for the sheer fact you get loads of hackers. Though, on the other hand of things, because of all the worthless brazilians that can't speak a lick of english, the vote-kick system fails miserably in this game. I don't really think it needs to be removed. But then again unless i'm on early for work I play with tons of friends, because they're low-pinged. If I randomly play rooms in pub it's too much of a lagger/Brazilian-portugese experience to make it enjoyable.
The vote kick is USED AS A HACK.
How is keeping one game-sanctioned hack in a better way of doing things than just trying to keep regular hacks out? It's just so ****ing stupid that it's allowed to go on like this that it's unbelievable to me.
I'm literally astounded, blown away, flabbergasted at the ineptitude of thought flowing from whoever is in charge and not changing it. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Go into an FFA or MM and tell me what happens when theres a hacker...
removing the kick vote will cause more problems than benefits
even with the vote kicks they dont kick once i kicked a hac.ker on my team and the R****ed BR on my team was screaming f12 i was like WDF and then they kick me for kicking a hack.er nice -
even with the vote kicks they dont kick once i kicked a hac.ker on my team and the R****ed BR on my team was screaming f12 i was like WDF and then they kick me for kicking a hack.er nice
Yep. The game is seriously awesome right now, isn't it? And this is allowed to happen day after day after day. For what purpose are they going out of their way to protect the BR filth anyways? Everyone else gets detrimental treatment, their little whiny, cheating asses are put up on a pedestal like they're ****ing gods among men.
Why do you love BR's so much? ~_~ I just don't get it, they're all such ******bags. -
[MOD]Giggletron wrote: »Then what exactly do you suggest?
Incentives To reduce kicking (an honor type system), or limited votes so players understand it's a privilege to be able to kick.
Cost Implement a charge for kicking and if people are that concerned about not being able to kick hackers for lack of GP then let them go negative as much as they like.
Remove The ability of those that are low rank and/or have a low or neutral kdr to vote or make their votes worth less.
Increase The threshold for a kick to pass.
Remove The ability of the other team to vote on kicks, make it team only.
Remove The in game chat make it team only, the opposing team generally uses it to insult, QQ, or hackusate and request kicks.
Pinged servers Then we can filter the riff raff out.
Don't allow People to change team (you can only rejoin on the side you was on.)
Remove it entirely
Theres about a million more ways to improve the system to not only prevent kicking of good players but also still kick hackers/glitchers and so on.
Lots of people that hackusate or kick know that person doesn't hack, they simply do it because they can, they want to win and there is no downside to doing so.
Sure z8 probably can't do most of the above if not all, but z8 does have influence and you should use it, seriously this is a good game but it's a noobs game at present as you can't play good or there is a good chance you'll get kicked.
People don't want to play with friends/clannies either there are too many varibles, I log on and want to play fast not synchronize watches so we'll all be on at the same time.PurityNDeath wrote: »I've been with them a long time. They asked me to help them be good and I've just hung around and chatted with them ever since. Nice guys. Unlike the trashy foreigners everywhere. -_-
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I'll give you sexy people a tip...
Since most of the cf players aren't good...or just idiots...dont try at all in games. You'll probably still get ace. I stay behind and let my team watch me so they can see I dont hack or something...
They'll see you're just good and that the other team is filled with cry babies. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I'll give you sexy people a tip...
Since most of the cf players aren't good...or just idiots...dont try at all in games. You'll probably still get ace. I stay behind and let my team watch me so they can see I dont hack or something...
They'll see you're just good and that the other team is filled with cry babies.
I normally get kicked when I clutch:( -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I'll give you sexy people a tip...
Since most of the cf players aren't good...or just idiots...dont try at all in games. You'll probably still get ace. I stay behind and let my team watch me so they can see I dont hack or something...
They'll see you're just good and that the other team is filled with cry babies.
Yeah, why would I want to cheapen myself just so I don't get kicked? That's not fun, I'd rather not play. And when I do play I want to rush out, get as many kills, own as many people and have as much action packed fun as possible. Either I rampage or I die and then I go get a soda or something and chillax. But I don't want to be bored when I'm in game or gimp myself. That's my time to shine and headshot an entire team of nubs that don't know what hit them.UKDissident wrote: »I normally get kicked when I clutch:(
That is true... This does happen to me a lot when I'm last and I kill their entire team and disarm. Then the noobs go CRAZY.
"SEE SEE LOOK LOOK SEE HACK LOOK SEE UNOSEEHACK!? HOW YOU NO SEE IT IS HACK! KICK KICK KICK"
Hurp DURP -
Then you have aimboot!
Well just take it easy. I'm always the last guy alive against 6 people and they just see how easy it is to clutch...unless they have no common sense -.-Yeah, why would I want to cheapen myself just so I don't get kicked? That's not fun, I'd rather not play. And when I do play I want to rush out, get as many kills, own as many people and have as much action packed fun as possible. Either I rampage or I die and then I go get a soda or something and chillax. But I don't want to be bored when I'm in game or gimp myself. That's my time to shine and headshot an entire team of nubs that don't know what hit them.
I know what you mean but I'd rather do that and not get kicked, instead of killing everything and get kicked and lose all that time that you spent in the game. Anyways, do you have fun either way with all the QQ and spamming "F11"? -
PurityDeath wrote: »Yeah, why would I want to cheapen myself just so I don't get kicked? That's not fun, I'd rather not play. And when I do play I want to rush out, get as many kills, own as many people and have as much action packed fun as possible. Either I rampage or I die and then I go get a soda or something and chillax. But I don't want to be bored when I'm in game or gimp myself. That's my time to shine and headshot an entire team of nubs that don't know what hit them.
Thats my steez:Dmasterdragoo wrote: »what it comes down to is that 1 person kicks and f11 is nearer so all the lazy people press f11 so if you switch it around so f11 is no and f12 is yes then it might help
And don't announce that you made this change -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »I know what you mean but I'd rather do that and not get kicked, instead of killing everything and get kicked and lose all that time that you spent in the game. Anyways, do you have fun either way with all the QQ and spamming "F11"?
Honestly, I tune out a lot of it but often I'll stop playing and just start talking to them. You know ... "Seriously I don't hack... Aww goddamnit typedeath... Why are you complaining, I'm only 8 and 2, that's not a great score. What, that guy hacks too? He's 5 and 7, what's wrong with you?"
They're just... Stupid and I really hate stupidity. I always want to reprimand them for being idiots but they probably don't understand.
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