New kick vote system improved.
OK FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE. I'm pretty sure trolls can't get me on this one.
Turn the kick system into the honor system. So the more you kick. The higher the bar goes. The less you kick the more the bar goes down. If you use more than 3 kicks a day it will go down 1. If you don't use 3 kicks in 3 days you will go up 1. So less kicking.
Now lets say you get to the bottom you will be penalized by not being able to kick anymore. So you have to wait for 6 days 1 week almost to kick again.
But lets say you ask someone else to kick for you. More likely they will be stingy with there kicks,because they won't kick just because you want it. They'll say no I like to keep my kicks. Once you get to the top you can kick 5 times a day anymore than that you will be downgraded back to 3.
Now how it will be setup is Bad (kicking disabled for 6days,then 18 days, 1month), So-So(Kicking 1 a day), Ok (3 per day), Great (7 for 2 days), Awesome (5 for 1 day).
Now go ahead troll me for what though. No I didn't get kicked... :P. I just wanted to put a good idea out there. give good people who don't kick good praise good punishment for bad people. Am I right? What is there to troll me for now? Exactly.. nothing. I don't see why you would dislike it. Unless your a huge nooby kicker.
Turn the kick system into the honor system. So the more you kick. The higher the bar goes. The less you kick the more the bar goes down. If you use more than 3 kicks a day it will go down 1. If you don't use 3 kicks in 3 days you will go up 1. So less kicking.
Now lets say you get to the bottom you will be penalized by not being able to kick anymore. So you have to wait for 6 days 1 week almost to kick again.
But lets say you ask someone else to kick for you. More likely they will be stingy with there kicks,because they won't kick just because you want it. They'll say no I like to keep my kicks. Once you get to the top you can kick 5 times a day anymore than that you will be downgraded back to 3.
Now how it will be setup is Bad (kicking disabled for 6days,then 18 days, 1month), So-So(Kicking 1 a day), Ok (3 per day), Great (7 for 2 days), Awesome (5 for 1 day).
Now go ahead troll me for what though. No I didn't get kicked... :P. I just wanted to put a good idea out there. give good people who don't kick good praise good punishment for bad people. Am I right? What is there to troll me for now? Exactly.. nothing. I don't see why you would dislike it. Unless your a huge nooby kicker.
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This is an original idea... But it will be quite unusable.
You said (if I remember well) that the starting quota is 3 kicks a day. With a Ghost team (for example) counting 5 cryers (not hard to find these days), you can be kicked 15 times in the game. Usually, you get kicked on the first or second vote...
I think this will have no effect. And lead to noobs creating accounts to come and keep kicking players. -
justininin wrote: »OK FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE. I'm pretty sure trolls can't get me on this one.
Turn the kick system into the honor system. So the more you kick. The higher the bar goes. The less you kick the more the bar goes down. If you use more than 3 kicks a day it will go down 1. If you don't use 3 kicks in 3 days you will go up 1. So less kicking.
Now lets say you get to the bottom you will be penalized by not being able to kick anymore. So you have to wait for 6 days 1 week almost to kick again.
But lets say you ask someone else to kick for you. More likely they will be stingy with there kicks,because they won't kick just because you want it. They'll say no I like to keep my kicks. Once you get to the top you can kick 5 times a day anymore than that you will be downgraded back to 3.
Now how it will be setup is Bad (kicking disabled for 6days,then 18 days, 1month), So-So(Kicking 1 a day), Ok (3 per day), Great (7 for 2 days), Awesome (5 for 1 day).
Now go ahead troll me for what though. No I didn't get kicked... :P. I just wanted to put a good idea out there. give good people who don't kick good praise good punishment for bad people. Am I right? What is there to troll me for now? Exactly.. nothing. I don't see why you would dislike it. Unless your a huge nooby kicker.
Good idea, I despise these kickin morons that infest CF. They kick as if it is part of the game and half the time I think they do it when then die simply because they are bored, it's like a secondary game. -
So this is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.
Well no, Just.. no.. but,
Nothing is wrong with the kicking system right now, it's the players in that game.
@ that guy over there, UKDissident.
Kicking is part of the game.
Note why it's in the game.
Y'know?
Without the kick system, actual hackers would stay in the game for as long as their awful Brasillian connection can keep them online.
i think u juz mad?
I probably spelled something wrong in there.. Whatever >.> -
I like this idea Justininininininin.
It will make the heaviest abusers unable to kick. Making sub accounts will keep them off Delta at least and in the noob ranks where they belong.
This also sates the most common complaint of removing the kick vote by keeping it available for the smart people that will only be using them when real hackers or other people that need to be adressed are around.
To Farukon: Sure, of course the kick vote wouldn't be a problem if no one used it but we can't go labotomize the idiocy out of everyone so we have to fix what can be fixed. -
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CptFarukon2 wrote: »Who says we can't?
HUH?
WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.
I ... Guess we do? I mean... In so as we have the internet to look up what section of the brain to chunk out and I have a knife lying around. >_> But do we have the capability to implement en-masse labotomizing? I doubt it. -
PurityNDeath wrote: »I ... Guess we do? I mean... In so as we have the internet to look up what section of the brain to chunk out and I have a knife lying around. >_> But do we have the capability to implement en-masse labotomizing? I doubt it.
Why do you has an knief laying asquare? -
The only thing you are yet again not taking in account here, is the original purpose of the kick-vote system, and that's to get rid of hackers/glitchers. Your attempt to improve the system favors their actions, allowing them to do as they please. Because players will be more concerned about their own honor rank, than that their teammates are playing fair. So no, your suggestion won't improve this system, and certainly not improve the game-play in general.
There is only 1 way you can improve the kick-vote system, and that is by allowing the people that get kicked to keep their score, and have them earn their GP and EXP as if they finished the game normally. This way the wrongful kicked won't leave empty-handed, and hackers/glitchers can still be kicked normally. Who cares if hackers/glitchers get their kills, GP and EXP? Once they have been reported, its not going to save them from being banned for their unlawful actions.
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i think the other problem about the vote system is people dont know what to do when vote menu shows up. afther 12 sec or something i dont know the vote time exactly all the guys have didnt pressed f11 or f12 count as pressed f12. if the vote system improved like the peoples dont responed the vote system their vote should be empty and not counts as positive or negative.
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i think the other problem about the vote system is people dont know what to do when vote menu shows up. afther 12 sec or something i dont know the vote time exactly all the guys have didnt pressed f11 or f12 count as pressed f12. if the vote system improved like the peoples dont responed the vote system their vote should be empty and not counts as positive or negative.
This would actually make the situation even worse. If one person vote kicks, just because they want the ace you have and no one else bothers to vote, then you would be kicked!
In some ways I agree with the honour system, it means responsible people will still have the kicking ability while people crying hack everytime you kill them and tries to kick will be limited.
Personally, since the new patch, I haven't seen any hackers at all and I have been playing quite a bit over the past few days. Now I know this might not last forever and the idiot hackers may be back, but right now the main problem is all the people who cant stand it when you kill them. Yesterday I entered a room, killed one ghost with a lucky random nade throw and they kicked me for that one kill. I was only in the room for 1 minute! Is that supposed to be a part of the game as Farukon suggests? It isn't a part of the game of you can't even stay in the game!
And Farukon, you say nothing is wrong with the kicking system right now, it's the players in that game. Ok, do you say the same about hackers? That hackers are just a part of the game and we should accept it?
What has been done about the hackers? Yeah, a few bans going around, but it's the system that has had to be changed to prevent hacks from working. The system also need to be changed to prevent those kickers from kicking everyone. And those idiot kickers maybe even be the old hackers who now have nothing better to do because they don't know how to play properly.
I also also agree with Lolli-Roger, that when someone is kicked, for whatever reason you should be allowed to keep your kills and exp. At least then we will have not wasted so much time or be that little bit annoyed when being kicked near the end of a 20 minute game. -
CyberCatUK wrote: »This would actually make the situation even worse. If one person vote kicks, just because they want the ace you have and no one else bothers to vote, then you would be kicked!
In some ways I agree with the honour system, it means responsible people will still have the kicking ability while people crying hack everytime you kill them and tries to kick will be limited.
Personally, since the new patch, I haven't seen any hackers at all and I have been playing quite a bit over the past few days. Now I know this might not last forever and the idiot hackers may be back, but right now the main problem is all the people who cant stand it when you kill them. Yesterday I entered a room, killed one ghost with a lucky random nade throw and they kicked me for that one kill. I was only in the room for 1 minute! Is that supposed to be a part of the game as Farukon suggests? It isn't a part of the game of you can't even stay in the game!
And Farukon, you say nothing is wrong with the kicking system right now, it's the players in that game. Ok, do you say the same about hackers? That hackers are just a part of the game and we should accept it?
What has been done about the hackers? Yeah, a few bans going around, but it's the system that has had to be changed to prevent hacks from working. The system also need to be changed to prevent those kickers from kicking everyone. And those idiot kickers maybe even be the old hackers who now have nothing better to do because they don't know how to play properly.
I also also agree with Lolli-Roger, that when someone is kicked, for whatever reason you should be allowed to keep your kills and exp. At least then we will have not wasted so much time or be that little bit annoyed when being kicked near the end of a 20 minute game.
Exactly this. The "honor system" doesn't necessarily have to effect your real honor or anything though, it can just be it's own bar that goes up and down based on kicks. Maybe honor is a bad name for it, just call it a kick guage or something.
Yes, it really bothers me when they only see one isolated incident like a lucky spray after you hear breath or a lucky nade or even a lucky spray down as a hack. If you're not doing it every single round it's obviously not hacking, is it?
I also agree with Lolli who's just rehashing one of my old suggestions. There's no reason to add insult to injury and not only be kicked but also lose the effort you put forth and probably what are good scores which equates to good XP/GP. Too bad it would still be allowing my biggest annoyance now, which is the constant kicking while I'm just trying to finish dailies, pushing me back from 10mins-1 hour to 1hour-2 or 3 hours depending on if it's a wins mission only day like today. -_-; -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »The only thing you are yet again not taking in account here, is the original purpose of the kick-vote system, and that's to get rid of hackers/glitchers. Your attempt to improve the system favors their actions, allowing them to do as they please. Because players will be more concerned about their own honor rank, than that their teammates are playing fair. So no, your suggestion won't improve this system, and certainly not improve the game-play in general.
There is only 1 way you can improve the kick-vote system, and that is by allowing the people that get kicked to keep their score, and have them earn their GP and EXP as if they finished the game normally. This way the wrongful kicked won't leave empty-handed, and hackers/glitchers can still be kicked normally. Who cares if hackers/glitchers get their kills, GP and EXP? Once they have been reported, its not going to save them from being banned for their unlawful actions.
this^ cause really if u play the game u dont give a sht about the honour. its 100% useless
watabout serers based on k/d? play with people around your on skill level -
UKDissident wrote: »Good idea, I despise these kickin morons that infest CF. They kick as if it is part of the game and half the time I think they do it when then die simply because they are bored, it's like a secondary game.
no suprise, I agree with this guy as usualCptFarukon2 wrote: »Nothing is wrong with the kicking system right now, it's the players in that game.
Without the kick system, actual hackers would stay in the game for as long as their awful Brasillian connection can keep them online.
you are correct, it is the players, but you can't fix them so the system has to change
too many kick abusers, I hope I DON"T get a head shot, because as soon as you do the crying starts, how about a kick vote for hacking when the guy is 0/0 HASN'T EVEN MADE A KILL YET!!! -
CptFarukon2 wrote: »Without the kick system, actual hackers would stay in the game for as long as their awful Brasillian connection can keep them online.
It's not used to kick hackers so that is a poor excuse:rolleyes:
Join any game right now and play for 13 rounds you'll see no hackers and about 20 kicks throughout the game with many passing. -
UKDissident wrote: »It's not used to kick hackers so that is a poor excuse:rolleyes:
Join any game right now and play for 13 rounds you'll see no hackers and about 20 kicks throughout the game with many passing.
agreed, it's so missused now they may as well dissable it all together imo
like so many other posters have said the really frustrating part is being kicked when the match is almost over, how many votes have we all seen when there are only seconds left in the match? I don't have a lot of time to play so when I do, to loose out on any exp/gp really ****es me off, just because some child thinks a head shot means a hack, not to rehash all the hundreds of reasons already posted by others in hundreds of threads about this issue. So in short, while I applaud you for trying to come up with a creative solution, I just don't think it will really benefit the people who don't cheat or abuse the current kick system. I can already see how your idea will and can be abused, but there's no reason to get into that right now. This should in no way discourage you or stop you from posting your ideas btw. -
i think the other problem about the vote system is people dont know what to do when vote menu shows up. afther 12 sec or something i dont know the vote time exactly all the guys have didnt pressed f11 or f12 count as pressed f12. if the vote system improved like the peoples dont responed the vote system their vote should be empty and not counts as positive or negative.
I don't know how I missed this but here goes.
People actually want to play this game you know, kicking everyone and sundry with a singular F11 won't fix anything.
This is a kick vote improvement thread, I suggest you make a new thread entitled "How can kick vote be made more noobish because I see hakerrs everywhere". -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »The only thing you are yet again not taking in account here, is the original purpose of the kick-vote system, and that's to get rid of hackers/glitchers. Your attempt to improve the system favors their actions, allowing them to do as they please. Because players will be more concerned about their own honor rank, than that their teammates are playing fair. So no, your suggestion won't improve this system, and certainly not improve the game-play in general.
There is only 1 way you can improve the kick-vote system, and that is by allowing the people that get kicked to keep their score, and have them earn their GP and EXP as if they finished the game normally. This way the wrongful kicked won't leave empty-handed, and hackers/glitchers can still be kicked normally. Who cares if hackers/glitchers get their kills, GP and EXP? Once they have been reported, its not going to save them from being banned for their unlawful actions.
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Best kicking system suggestion yet. -
justininin wrote: »OK FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE. I'm pretty sure trolls can't get me on this one.
Turn the kick system into the honor system. So the more you kick. The higher the bar goes. The less you kick the more the bar goes down. If you use more than 3 kicks a day it will go down 1. If you don't use 3 kicks in 3 days you will go up 1. So less kicking.
Now lets say you get to the bottom you will be penalized by not being able to kick anymore. So you have to wait for 6 days 1 week almost to kick again.
But lets say you ask someone else to kick for you. More likely they will be stingy with there kicks,because they won't kick just because you want it. They'll say no I like to keep my kicks. Once you get to the top you can kick 5 times a day anymore than that you will be downgraded back to 3.
Now how it will be setup is Bad (kicking disabled for 6days,then 18 days, 1month), So-So(Kicking 1 a day), Ok (3 per day), Great (7 for 2 days), Awesome (5 for 1 day).
Now go ahead troll me for what though. No I didn't get kicked... :P. I just wanted to put a good idea out there. give good people who don't kick good praise good punishment for bad people. Am I right? What is there to troll me for now? Exactly.. nothing. I don't see why you would dislike it. Unless your a huge nooby kicker.
bad idea big time lol what are you trying to do get people, not to kik so haker.s like you can infest the game and hak farm??? -
justininin wrote: »OK FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE. I'm pretty sure trolls can't get me on this one.
Turn the kick system into the honor system. So the more you kick. The higher the bar goes. The less you kick the more the bar goes down. If you use more than 3 kicks a day it will go down 1. If you don't use 3 kicks in 3 days you will go up 1. So less kicking.
Now lets say you get to the bottom you will be penalized by not being able to kick anymore. So you have to wait for 6 days 1 week almost to kick again.
But lets say you ask someone else to kick for you. More likely they will be stingy with there kicks,because they won't kick just because you want it. They'll say no I like to keep my kicks. Once you get to the top you can kick 5 times a day anymore than that you will be downgraded back to 3.
Now how it will be setup is Bad (kicking disabled for 6days,then 18 days, 1month), So-So(Kicking 1 a day), Ok (3 per day), Great (7 for 2 days), Awesome (5 for 1 day).
Now go ahead troll me for what though. No I didn't get kicked... :P. I just wanted to put a good idea out there. give good people who don't kick good praise good punishment for bad people. Am I right? What is there to troll me for now? Exactly.. nothing. I don't see why you would dislike it. Unless your a huge nooby kicker.
What if I see more than 5 hackers a day? -
Pwnedshooter wrote: »bad idea big time lol what are you trying to do get people, not to kik so haker.s like you can infest the game and hak farm???
Not everyone hacks your just kicking players that make you rage, if they kill you they hack - correct?What if I see more than 5 hackers a day?
Play with friends like you people suggest we do when we say we are getting kicked to much - Ironic. -
UKDissident wrote: »Not everyone hacks your just kicking players that make you rage, if they kill you they hack - correct?
Play with friends like you people suggest we do when we say we are getting kicked to much - Ironic.
nope you can easily separate a haker from a legit farmer but i see constant hakers during the day
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When i'm playing ghost I constantly see people crying hack against me. Maybe you are one of those people who 'thinks' people hack and kicks, when in fact you can't tell the difference between skill and hacks.
And besides, your reply above make no sense to the post you quoted. -
Um no I'm trying to get people to use there kicks wisely. DUhPwnedshooter wrote: »bad idea big time lol what are you trying to do get people, not to kik so haker.s like you can infest the game and hak farm???
Then you must have really bad luck or play in a really nooby server. Most hackers go for noobs. Pros will kick them easily. I haven't seen a speed hacker or a hacker at all since the patch.What if I see more than 5 hackers a day?
Did you not read? I'm not mad about me getting kicked im just trying to improve it. Duh.. I you dumb troll 90% of people in this thread agreed probably. That means either your opinion must be totally stupid and make no sense. I know its the players, but you gotta morph the kicking system around themCptFarukon2 wrote: »So this is the most idiotic thing I've ever read.
Well no, Just.. no.. but,
Nothing is wrong with the kicking system right now, it's the players in that game.
@ that guy over there, UKDissident.
Kicking is part of the game.
Note why it's in the game.
Y'know?
Without the kick system, actual hackers would stay in the game for as long as their awful Brasillian connection can keep them online.
i think u juz mad?
I probably spelled something wrong in there.. Whatever >.>
I mean I can agree I see what your saying. To keep EXP and GP. I would love that idea, but i don't think its going to happen. I mean.. hackers will get banned anyway lose all there GP/EXP.Lolli_Roger wrote: »The only thing you are yet again not taking in account here, is the original purpose of the kick-vote system, and that's to get rid of hackers/glitchers. Your attempt to improve the system favors their actions, allowing them to do as they please. Because players will be more concerned about their own honor rank, than that their teammates are playing fair. So no, your suggestion won't improve this system, and certainly not improve the game-play in general.
There is only 1 way you can improve the kick-vote system, and that is by allowing the people that get kicked to keep their score, and have them earn their GP and EXP as if they finished the game normally. This way the wrongful kicked won't leave empty-handed, and hackers/glitchers can still be kicked normally. Who cares if hackers/glitchers get their kills, GP and EXP? Once they have been reported, its not going to save them from being banned for their unlawful actions.
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Pwnedshooter wrote: »nope you can easily separate a haker from a legit farmer but i see constant hakers during the day
You know since the patch I saw 1 hacker that's it, if your seeing hackers everyday in the current climate then they really are not hacking. -
nucksfan123 wrote: »kick vote system is getting better in my eyes, not getting kicked as much and when i do ppl are honest about it
Hahaha.UKDissident wrote: »Play with friends like you people suggest we do when we say we are getting kicked to much - Ironic.
XD Good response. I would've just said have someone else in the room kick them, if they haven't wasted all their votes by being ret.arded too.Pwnedshooter wrote: »nope you can easily separate a haker from a legit farmer but i see constant hakers during the day
Legit farmer, lulz. Misnomer much? And you mean you used to see constant hackers, right? Before the hacks were patched.CyberCatUK wrote: »When i'm playing ghost I constantly see people crying hack against me. Maybe you are one of those people who 'thinks' people hack and kicks, when in fact you can't tell the difference between skill and hacks.
Extremely this. Then only the smart people will be left and only the real hackers will be kicked.
masterdragoo wrote: »it will soon to get to the point when no one will be able to kick then hack,ers will just rome wild as no one bothers to report them
Don't waste your kicks on decent people just trying to play then. If no one's stupid with it like they are now everyone will have their kicks all the time.UKDissident wrote: »You know since the patch I saw 1 hacker that's it, if your seeing hackers everyday in the current climate then they really are not hacking.
You and Justin are right. The latest patch has put a stop to things for the time being. I have not seen a single hacker since the last patches a few days ago and yet I've been kicked upwards of 15 times and we have a ton of nubs here complaining about hackers and how we'll deal with them if they can no longer kick every single decent player from the game anymore. So what's the bigger problem here?
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