Stupid vote system?
is it just me who HATES it?
Im (SERIOUSLY) getting kicked in 8/10 servers that i play, too many noobs clicking f11 for no reason, and when i get kicked, i dont seem to get any exp/gold? supposed to be like that? (or maybe i get it, kicked to early in game to notice any difference..)
How about removing it, and create a new hack detection program? so the REAL hackers gets banned, not innocent people, like me.
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Im (SERIOUSLY) getting kicked in 8/10 servers that i play, too many noobs clicking f11 for no reason, and when i get kicked, i dont seem to get any exp/gold? supposed to be like that? (or maybe i get it, kicked to early in game to notice any difference..)
How about removing it, and create a new hack detection program? so the REAL hackers gets banned, not innocent people, like me.
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Hence the "How about removing it, and create a new hack detection program?"
but really, it just ****es me off, i created this thread in rage lol ^^ its REALLY annoying.. isnt there any other servers than the usual "UK/US etc" servers? with.. more friendly people perhaps. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Just deal with it. Nothings wrong with the vote system...its the people who use it.
Nothing is wrong with guns, just the people who use them, yet we still take them away from felons don't we? Its the same here. The people of this game have lost the right to vote kick.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Then what if real hackers come? They're gonna stay there the whole game. Not all of them get kicked but at least some do...
Like 1:20 get kicked. Compare that to the frequency of good players getting kicked. In my opinion, the negative use of the vote kick system outweighs the positive. Saying that you have to take the bad with the good is like saying killing 1 criminal is good work even if 20 civilians had to die in the process.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Honestly I dont care if it does or doesn't stay...I just deal with it. The game wouldn't be better if it was gone..I'm sure.
Not like it could be any worse, either. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Just deal with it. Nothings wrong with the vote system...its the people who use it.
I'm one of the people who can't deal with it lol... because this event happens to me a lot!
>.>... its f**king contagious!! >.<
A couple of times I got kicked sooo much for getting like average kill death of 40/5... And sometimes for my whole CF playing hours.... "AFF HACK F11 KIKA "EXIO" <---(Brazilian noob's typo, Elzio, Esio), EZIO RACK FDP!! F11 KIKA FOR FREE ZP YES!?"
And the the ONLY matches I mostly don't get kicked out of is when there's a REAL hacker... that's when my KDR sh*ts due to the hackers (mostly aimbotters). -
Nothings wrong with the guns? People QQ about some guns (like the M12s for example) because they have no disadvantages. There's at least a reason to complain about them...but most of the people blame it on the vote kick system when its the fault of the users because they abuse it. The M12s is unfair no matter who uses it because of how OP it is.Nothing is wrong with guns, just the people who use them, yet we still take them away from felons don't we? Its the same here. The people of this game have lost the right to vote kick.Like 1:20 get kicked. Compare that to the frequency of good players getting kicked. In my opinion, the negative use of the vote kick system outweighs the positive. Saying that you have to take the bad with the good is like saying killing 1 criminal is good work even if 20 civilians had to die in the process.
I would just leave a room if I see a hacker...I know he/she wont get kicked. I doubt you would stay in a room too if you say 2 or more people messing up the fun for you.
True...so the people would still be annoyed and fustrated no matter if the vote system stays or leaves. I'm not for/against this...but they should at least remove it for a month or so and ask us if its better that way.Not like it could be any worse, either.Ezio__Altair wrote: »I'm one of the people who can't deal with it... because this event happens to me a lot!... its f**king contagious!! >.<
A couple of times I got kicked sooo much for getting like average kill death of 40/5... And sometimes for my whole CF playing hours.... "AFF HACK F11 KIKA "EXIO" <---(Brazilian noob's typo), EZIO RACK!! F11 KIKA FOR FREE ZP YES!?"
It happens to me a lot too but I just get used to it. What I think they should do is give you the GP, EXP, kills and deaths you got so it wouldn't make you waste your time.If only 2nd Liutenants or higer can start a vote kick, our problem will be 90% solved!
Because rank matters...
O.o wow this is long
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Then what if real hackers come? They're gonna stay there the whole game. Not all of them get kicked but at least some do...
Honestly I dont care if it does or doesn't stay...I just deal with it. The game wouldn't be better if it was gone..I'm sure.
You know the best way to defeat hackers is not kick vote, what you need is good anti hack protection and a way to isolate hackers that get through that protection.
Kick vote cannot do that job as a kick vote can either not be initiated at all or fail intentionally or unintentionally, so the hacker quite often can play the entire game - kick voting cannot remove all the hackers and you still end up playing with hackers regardless.
Also legits will get kicked day in and day out for no reason (and believe me it is annoying) and furthermore there is no proper solution to prevent it at all.
Kick vote in theory is a function which prevents hackers from playing games and makes hacking useless because the majority will remove that hacker by vote (isolating the hacker) - This quite often doesn't happen.
What would do the job that kick vote in theory should do, would be:
Remove the penalty when you leave a game, and make it so EXP/GP that you have gained up until that point is saved including your KDR - That way when a hacker comes you can just leave the game and report the hacker, this means the hacker cannot possibly play, unless there are idiots that would stay just like there are idiots that kick for no reason (but that's their own problem) and the hacker would get banned so the few kills he gets including EXP/GP are useless..
And people wouldn't get kicked at all, no kicking more banning. -
What you're suggesting is what I suggested a while ago and I wish it were to be that way.
The biggest error Z8 is doing is that they dont permanent ban them...seriously wtf? Even if they have the best anti-hack program, they only ban them for 7 days which is so fcking stupid.
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L0LSmilyFace wrote: »What you're suggesting is what I suggested a while ago and I wish it were to be that way.
The biggest error Z8 is doing is that they dont permanent ban them...seriously wtf? Even if they have the best anti-hack program, they only ban them for 7 days which is so fcking stupid.
Word^
Oh regarding stupid kick vote yesterday and stupid BR's:
I'm in UK1 server and create a game (Halloween EM) it's going great 7-1 kdr, the room slowly fills up with laggy BR's pinging 230-290/500+ one starts QQin "Kika Diggident waller" then a noob BR on my team obviously was trying to kick spamming "F11" BS.
I mean BR's in the UK servers?
QQ'ing for fack all?
Trying to kick me from my own room?
That's not acceptable to me, might be to others...
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In the end I didn't give a damn if they kicked me, I said "I don't hak - I'm not Brazilian"
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They think they own this game (we dont either) but they think they can do whatever the fck they want on servers that are meant for us.
What is Z8 doing about it? LOL@U
Imma LOL@THEM when the game shuts down for not listening to their customers which can make this game live for 10+ more years.
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I'm not gonna quote and reply to each thing, so just use context to figure out what I'm replying to.
Firstly, I meant real life. I thought the "felons" part made that obvious. I was making a comparison.
Next, Yes, I do leave the room when a hacker shows up, but at least then I'm not getting kicked myself cause some sh.it nub doesn't know how to play the game and lacks skill. And I agree, a month trial run of no vote kick would be a good idea just to see how well it would pan out. Hell, I'd like to see how a Host-Only kicking option would work out as well.
If I could keep my kills, xp, gp, and have it count toward my mission regardless of win/lose/whatever, then I wouldn't care so much. I just hate wasting all that time and getting nothing for it.
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I get votekicked at least once a day, with my record being 13 votekicked rooms in 1 day. Yet if you look at my k/d records on these occasions it's never all that high. I think my best k/d ratio when kicked was barely 3/1. These noobs see me sometimes die without getting any kills at all, and see me shooting at them but not hitting them, but when I do kill them magically I became a hacker aimbot / waller / whatever.
The worst thing is that these idiots are doing stupid things which gets them killed. For example standing out in the open, not moving, while they reload a gun. Another example is in ghost mode when 3 ghosts all try to charge at me from same direction, I spot one and start shooting and get all 3 kills and magically that makes me a hacker. Continuing in ghost mode since that's where I get the majority of my accusations anymore, some idiots run around in the water while ghosted and then act like I am hacking when I shoot at the place the water is rippling. Or ghosts who stand in lasers or under steam clouds, etc.
But the one single most thing I hate about the noob idiots with their hack accusations is when my k/d is down to only like 28/24 and yet they still are claiming I hack. Anyone who's been around a real hacker in the game knows that their k/d records are insane because of either aimbot or speed hack or both.
But even though I almost constantly get kicked for no reason, I really don't like the idea of removing the kick system, way too many speed hackers in the game right now - if you don't think so you obviously don't spend a lot of time on Delta server. And don't even get me started on the 'new' hack that lets someone kill the entire enemy team while they are spawning during GM or S&D modes before they are even able to start moving.
We don't need kick removed, we need instead that it be recoded so that instead of being kicked we are 'frozen' unable to kill anymore. Thus a person could choose to leave the room voluntarily and lose the GP/EXP or can choose to sit idle until the game ends and get their rewards. This would keep the real players from being punished just because of idiots. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Then what if real hackers come? They're gonna stay there the whole game. Not all of them get kicked but at least some do...
Honestly I dont care if it does or doesn't stay...I just deal with it. The game wouldn't be better if it was gone..I'm sure.
I always thought like that too, might aswell just wait for a update on the hack detect system. -
Idk how to change the vote kick system but, yeah... Id rather have one then dont have one.
How about they start giving game moderator items for 5k zp 90days >_> and then take the system out. Atleast this way people who spend money on the game can kick and there wouldnt be noobs kicking people for no reason.
Yes its still a vote kick, Nothing else. But it gives 5tries instead of 2, and since theres no system, you can still kick hackers and no one can kick u, unless they have the Moderator.
THEN AGAIN ID RATHER HAVE THE SYSTEM. Even if I get kicked like 20times a day.
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