why does the halloween crates cost more?

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  • eul0gy wrote: »
    since when does the more powerful guns cost more than the less powerful guns (crate wise).


    stop trying to make it look as if theres 100 reasons why theyre 1300 and not 1000. thte ONLY reason is because in a month, nobody will be able to get them anymore.


    they have rpk gold and rpk camo, one has more ammo than the other, but they cost the same, am i right?

    and power wise, the only clear comparison i could do, without having someone put their 2 cents in would be the m16-c, yes its gp, but its still the same amount as say, the ak-camo.

    they wanna make more money on seasonal items, acceptable to me, a gun that says halloween on it isnt gonna make me frag any better

    But RPK-Gold Crate doesn't have another free permanent weapon in it. To me the prices are very fair. They'll make a lot of money with the promotions and since this is limited edition many people will spend a lot of $$$ trying to win one of the weapons.
  • It could just be Z8 trying to limit the amount of people who actually buy these crates to win these seasonal guns.
    After all, who wants a "limited edition" gun when everyone else has it? This is just an assumption because I'm pretty sure some people were put off buying these crates when they saw the price for 10 has increased to 10,000 ZP.
  • well does it further your chances to spend more and receive what you want? or does it have the same chance as any other crate?
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    Giggle, to simply ask a question, if the price increased simply because of them being Seasonal, then how come the GP Halloween crates aren't more expensive as well? Also if I remember the ZP crates from last year were the exact same price as any other. In my opinion this change makes absolutely no sense.

    Its not like there being two weapons in the same crate is superly beneficial. The Kriss seems to have an odd increase of winning % chance compared to any other weapon I've seen for crates. Which only makes it that more outrageous.

    No wonder Saidin's promotion was for the first 1000 people. Not very many are going to win them often to begin with.

    I can honestly say I have no idea why they are higher than usual. We can only assume until a GM tells us otherwise... if at all.
  • 10 of the halloween crates cost 10,000 not 8,000? i dont think last year they were more? and is it cuz there are 2 guns? tommy/winchester doesnt cost more....



    z8 Greedy?

    Because u get nothing.
  • Well think about it, there is a perm ak/kriss in that crate, and dont bring in tommy and winchester, cos those guns are a joke.
  • Nukkarific wrote: »
    Well think about it, there is a perm ak/kriss in that crate, and dont bring in tommy and winchester, cos those guns are a joke.

    lol, doesn't make a difference really whats in the crate. besides, the AK is just a reskinned ak-c, thats more of a joke than the winny or tommy since the camo is a gp crate and the silver can be obtained with bp. Anyone who was going for these crates and wins this silly excuse for a weapon will probably rage, especially for the cost of the crate.

    The kriss alone isn't worth the increase in cost, otherwise they would mess with anything that was slightly better than the original. The RPK-G would be more than what the camo would have and so on.

    So in relation, yes, these ZP Halloween crates are as much of a joke as the Tommy/Winchester crates. But at least those guns are easily winnable without being ripped off terribly.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    lol, doesn't make a difference really whats in the crate. besides, the AK is just a reskinned ak-c, thats more of a joke than the winny or tommy since the camo is a gp crate and the silver can be obtained with bp. Anyone who was going for these crates and wins this silly excuse for a weapon will probably rage, especially for the cost of the crate.

    The kriss alone isn't worth the increase in cost, otherwise they would mess with anything that was slightly better than the original. The RPK-G would be more than what the camo would have and so on.

    So in relation, yes, these ZP Halloween crates are as much of a joke as the Tommy/Winchester crates. But at least those guns are easily winnable without being ripped off terribly.

    In the end, its all for fun. You dont have to buy them. Just pretend they arent there if you dont want them.
  • In the end, its all for fun. You dont have to buy them. Just pretend they arent there if you dont want them.

    lol can't really say i don't want them. the kriss is the mainly desired one i bet. hardest one too. sadly though its not fun when a few hundred is spent and not even a hint is seen for this senselessly expensive crate. don't have to buy them no, but the way z8 rolls is that if you don't you regret it later.

    i wouldn't have minded if the chance % was as high as it is now. (as i firmly believe it is), its the fact it costs that much. (lol the m4 halloween is a complete joke i must say). and everything points to very few people winning from that crate. i do honestly wonder how many people have won from that crate so far. chances are very very little compared to the norms.

    so i am a bit disappointed overall. but your right, guess i'll just grieve anyone who has it with my bullets to ease things.
  • I won the AK-H in 6 crates... I never win anything. I also know a few others who have won too. Id say the chances are higher than the rest, however ill never use it. Its all senseless complaining about nothing. Theyre reskins.
    You dont HAVE to try for them and I havent had any regret in not trying for other weapons in the past.
  • I won the AK-H in 6 crates... I never win anything. I also know a few others who have won too. Id say the chances are higher than the rest, however ill never use it. Its all senseless complaining about nothing. Theyre reskins.
    You dont HAVE to try for them and I havent had any regret in not trying for other weapons in the past.
    This is true.
    I saw AK Hallo 2 times in 3 crates
  • I won the AK-H in 6 crates... I never win anything. I also know a few others who have won too. Id say the chances are higher than the rest, however ill never use it. Its all senseless complaining about nothing. Theyre reskins.
    You dont HAVE to try for them and I havent had any regret in not trying for other weapons in the past.

    The AK-H is not the one with the high % chance of winning. Its the Kriss. The AK is the likely one to be won. Probably 20-1 Aks/Kriss being won overall in ratio. However, the Kriss isn't just a reskin, with the +5 ammo added to it. Making it better than its counterpart.

    Not saying not to do them, I probably wills till try simply out of stubbornness. I honestly don't like having the chance of winning two of the same weapon permanently because its a combo crate. Especially since you can't remove them. Hence why I'm reluctant on going for a Tommy, already got a winchester.
    Had they separated the crates, it might have made more sense.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    The AK-H is not the one with the high % chance of winning. Its the Kriss. The AK is the likely one to be won. Probably 20-1 Aks/Kriss being won overall in ratio. However, the Kriss isn't just a reskin, with the +5 ammo added to it. Making it better than its counterpart.

    Not saying not to do them, I probably wills till try simply out of stubbornness. I honestly don't like having the chance of winning two of the same weapon permanently because its a combo crate. Especially since you can't remove them. Hence why I'm reluctant on going for a Tommy, already got a winchester.
    Had they separated the crates, it might have made more sense.

    I would assume they would be both the same.

    I wasnt aware of the extra ammo in the kriss but either way its limited edition. Perhaps this is what it is going to be like for seasonal crates now. Regardless of past crates.
  • I would assume they would be both the same.

    I wasnt aware of the extra ammo in the kriss but either way its limited edition. Perhaps this is what it is going to be like for seasonal crates now. Regardless of past crates.

    Personally I don't see how 'limited edition' has anything to do with it. Since even if its said 'its promotional and won't be here long' doesn't mean its true. Take the RPK crates for instance. The gold was the promotional item, but the Camo was the one that is removed? Tell me how that isn't a little backwards? the gold, supposed to be limited edition, isn't really such. The Camo is now apparently.

    I doubt the two weapons have the same % chance. Otherwise they would both have the 'best' tag on the corners. (Yes, its possible, CF CN has such.) Meaning then its equal chance. Why would a lesser weapon have the same chance as the best?

    Gah, if this is the case for seasonal crates then, there's not much I can do granted, but I don't have to be happy about it.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    Personally I don't see how 'limited edition' has anything to do with it. Since even if its said 'its promotional and won't be here long' doesn't mean its true. Take the RPK crates for instance. The gold was the promotional item, but the Camo was the one that is removed? Tell me how that isn't a little backwards? the gold, supposed to be limited edition, isn't really such. The Camo is now apparently.

    I doubt the two weapons have the same % chance. Otherwise they would both have the 'best' tag on the corners. (Yes, its possible, CF CN has such.) Meaning then its equal chance. Why would a lesser weapon have the same chance as the best?

    Gah, if this is the case for seasonal crates then, there's not much I can do granted, but I don't have to be happy about it.

    You have a fair point there. But in the end there was no point having 2 weapons with one clearly being superior. Noone would try for it so there was no point. Im sure the intentions when it was released were for it to stay there.

    Obviously I dont know the chances of winning the guns but you may be right there. Much like the Thompson and Winchester. I wouldnt say it was lesser though. In the end we cant argue about which one has a higher chance rate when we dont know the percentages.
    Also saying that youve seen "x" gun win more than the other isnt really definitive proof that the AK has a higher win percentage than the Kriss.
  • You have a fair point there. But in the end there was no point having 2 weapons with one clearly being superior. Noone would try for it so there was no point. Im sure the intentions when it was released were for it to stay there.

    Obviously I dont know the chances of winning the guns but you may be right there. Much like the Thompson and Winchester. I wouldnt say it was lesser though. In the end we cant argue about which one has a higher chance rate when we dont know the percentages.
    Also saying that youve seen "x" gun win more than the other isnt really definitive proof that the AK has a higher win percentage than the Kriss.

    I suppose that is also true. But why the AK? The M4-H was at least unique in a sense that it had the +5 without the silencer. Which is something I'd try for. Since its more than just a skin. But I guess winning something is better than nothing. Even I should know that from experience.

    Well, we don't have enough people to really give a census of such right at this time, so perhaps giving it another week will determine that ratio a bit better. Although, I could be wrong about this but, I don't think it shows the AK-H being won since its not the 'best', right? Not entirely sure. Haven't been in game much to know, save for the tons of hats being won.

    Lol, just me doing my monthly rant. In all honesty, that's all the negatives I really got for this patch. Which is saying something. Its one I actually enjoy.
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    I suppose that is also true. But why the AK? The M4-H was at least unique in a sense that it had the +5 without the silencer. Which is something I'd try for. Since its more than just a skin. But I guess winning something is better than nothing. Even I should know that from experience.

    Well, we don't have enough people to really give a census of such right at this time, so perhaps giving it another week will determine that ratio a bit better. Although, I could be wrong about this but, I don't think it shows the AK-H being won since its not the 'best', right? Not entirely sure. Haven't been in game much to know, save for the tons of hats being won.

    Lol, just me doing my monthly rant. In all honesty, that's all the negatives I really got for this patch. Which is saying something. Its one I actually enjoy.

    Good point. But Smilegate place the weapons, not G4Box. They obviously have no idea what we want.

    Youre right, they arent shown when theyre won. So we actually have no way of knowing whos won the AK-H

    Although I know people that have won the Kriss more than the AK-H (excluding myself) But then, that can al change

    I love rants haha :P Its a good way to express opinions with each other without it turning into a flame war.

    I too have enjoyed this patch. I dont see why people have complained about it.
  • yea i wish the m4-holloween was temp gp but iama try to get gp for the temp i allways wanted a +5 bullet m4 without the sliencer (screw the gold) lol
  • Good point. But Smilegate place the weapons, not G4Box. They obviously have no idea what we want.

    Youre right, they arent shown when theyre won. So we actually have no way of knowing whos won the AK-H

    Although I know people that have won the Kriss more than the AK-H (excluding myself) But then, that can al change

    I love rants haha :P Its a good way to express opinions with each other without it turning into a flame war.

    I too have enjoyed this patch. I dont see why people have complained about it.

    Heh, someone should tell them to look on the forums more. XD They might actually get positive reinforcement. Though, does make me wonder if they even looked at the game and its marketing aspects. Saidin is probably the closest thing to them knowing what we want. Which... Actually now that I think about it, I have a good site implementation that would benefit both parties. ^..^

    Yeah, its a fine line though, ranting and flaming. XD Some confuse the two alot, or mix them. I think I can be accused of such as well. But always glad when it can stay intellectual.

    The new escape mode map (1 down, 1 to go) and the ever favoured halloween was all i needed to be happy for this. Always saddened that the EM maps are temporary, one fo the few EM maps I'm actually good at. XD
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    Heh, someone should tell them to look on the forums more. XD They might actually get positive reinforcement. Though, does make me wonder if they even looked at the game and its marketing aspects. Saidin is probably the closest thing to them knowing what we want. Which... Actually now that I think about it, I have a good site implementation that would benefit both parties. ^..^

    Yeah, its a fine line though, ranting and flaming. XD Some confuse the two alot, or mix them. I think I can be accused of such as well. But always glad when it can stay intellectual.

    The new escape mode map (1 down, 1 to go) and the ever favoured halloween was all i needed to be happy for this. Always saddened that the EM maps are temporary, one fo the few EM maps I'm actually good at. XD

    Yeah but the developers are Korean. Im not even sure if they can speak/read english well, if at all.

    I do believe G4Box push for certain content but I guess we just have stubborn developers.

    I like EM maps too. I tend to run straight for the sniper and pick the people off as the run for cover.
  • Giggletron you got picked by Seb you shut up right now.
  • Like i said before... They don't care about us, only about the MONEY!
  • [MOD]Bruce wrote: »
    Giggletron you got picked by Seb you shut up right now.

    Sebberns better than me :P

    And i was running at 13-20 Fps so you can shut up right now :)

  • And i was running at 13-20 Fps


    Thats pretty much what i get when i film in-game. :confused:
  • Kelathe wrote: »
    The AK-H is not the one with the high % chance of winning. Its the Kriss. The AK is the likely one to be won. Probably 20-1 Aks/Kriss being won overall in ratio. However, the Kriss isn't just a reskin, with the +5 ammo added to it. Making it better than its counterpart.

    you could always use an m12...40ammo. people will just think the kriss is less noob because it has halloween skin and you had to win it in over 9000 crates.
  • skyyblu wrote: »
    you could always use an m12...40ammo. people will just think the kriss is less noob because it has halloween skin and you had to win it in over 9000 crates.

    I'd rather have a gun that proves I support this game and get called a noob than get one that anyone else can, feel bad and not find it worth my time and helps nothing. The m12 is worse than the Kriss, and like I said, at least I'd be paying for such. Plus it doesn't sound like someone puking at 120miles per hour with a chainsaw in hand.
  • skyyblu wrote: »
    if you give them money they'll fix the ha.cx

    It's not about having money to fix the hacks. It's about skill. They should just hire legit anti hacks instead of hiring slow progessing people or trying to fix the problem themselves. (Though I have to give them credit for improving it a bit. It is sooo much better than 2 months ago.)
  • -sigh


    BECAUSE THEYRE LIMITED EDITION!!!!!




    god -.-'

    omfg, now I have to go get the ak halloween b4 its gone forever