Where has the respect gone?

Xa_DarKAcE wrote: »

Your acting like other games have WAy better communities in respectwise. Of course there are more respectful players in Counter strike etc. But that doesn't mean the majority of that great population is respectful. It's the internet, as long as they know they are safe, people will say whatever they want.

Menshovik >.> The fact that you have already accepted this as the norm is the problem. Or a large portion of it. I'll let Polleus rip you apart.

Maybe some are BR's? Lol JK. I think some disrespect went down when people started like cussing and forgot the rules and such.

[MOD]Polleus wrote: »

Of course he knew what he was asking for.

No he really didn't, but that's a different story for a different day. You'll just defend him because your a mod, so I won't even push this.

I don't care if it's a competitive community or not. There is an acceptable standard that says everyone should have a common grounds on respect. Sportsmanship, respect, whatever you want to call it. There should be some of that present in every game, competitive or not.

I totally agree. There was massive respect in this game a year ago (Sept-Oct 2009) before Saidin got into his head that this game had to be competitive. Clans like Trio, c2, FGT, Clover, aDr, Sorry, and the GM clans (there used to be a LOT of them) back then had respect for each other. I still have respect for the people who made up these clans to this day. There wasn't this constant trash talking and bipolar attitude on forums.

You can not blame just the competitive community. That is an ignorant statement and also is using them as a scape goat. There are many more people in the public community over the competitive community and people outside of it act just as bad. We are all at fault and we are ALL accountable for our actions.

However, you can blame this new competitive community for being the catalyst into this crap community. Go back before WOGL was announced, then look after WOGL was announced. I really do not need to say more.

Back to the topic...hopefully.

[MOD]Polleus wrote: »

Yeah I'm trying to turn it back to the discussion. Haha. I believe this game, with time, can have the same maturity and understanding. It's all about setting the standard. Counter-Strike and Call of Duty set the standard. Many people have given up on this community before it even has had a chance to mature.

Also, you can not really compare the two community types. You are bound to get a different demographic of people on a P2P game versus a F2P game. However, we can do our best to keep up. It's all about attitude. Remember, how long has Counter-Strike been around? Call Of Duty even? Now answer how long Cross Fire has been around. Give it time

Generally speaking, games that require to be bought will generally have a much greater maturity rate. Due to the fact many people who we could label as immature, are under the age of 13, and their parents wouldn't want them to spend that much money on a online game. Then add in the fact some of the new computer games require a much higher quality of a computer would get rid of some of the immature and disrepectful people left over. People that can afford to run those such games, are usually in college, or atleast end of highschool, and hopefully are quite respectful.

I'd like to see Crossfire continue its ways, yet changes need to be made. It's the fact that people that don't contribute to the community (trolls, and such) are still around for a very long time. Respect is a big thing in this community, yet people who are extremely disrespectful are hardly banned unless they start to hack in-game? Thats a bit faulty. I've seen many people attack moderators on the forums, and troll just about every topic, yet they still remain within the community? Or they simply make a alt account?

Perfect post. I agree with this completely. Too many people disrespect each other over who's better. This doesn't go on only with competitive players either. I see this in pubs so much. I created a clan, to keep peace and just be chill. I try to help the community, but no one listens or just blatantly says something dramatically stupid. I say "don't disrespect others" and people come up with the stupidest responses. I am 13 years of age, but I have enough common sense not to be so disrespectful. I guess it comes from my parents. And to all the people who say this is all the fault of 12-15 year olds, please don't. Because I know so many 12 year olds who have more common sense and logic than 8-% of this community.

Although i admit i do my fair share of insulting people for insulting others in-game. But i take full action for those. But sometimes the best is keeping negative things silent and let only constructive criticism take part.

But apart from that, i tend to notice that the FPS genre has a more... violent and immature(?) community as the age progresses, but i rarely do see that kind of thing for MMORPGs. Not to mention that some people call themselves "PRO" which is bluntly, a person that gets a monetary salary in specialized educational fields or earns money in a field for hobbyists (like gaming) which i doubt all the people i met that call themselves pro get paid in playing CF, and the fact that some gamers create this ego that they are better than everyone is troubling at times.

But oh well, im hear to play the game, not here to go into a debate... Plus ignoring whiny kids is great.

Where has the respect gone? I don't believe there's ever been a general use of respect in any FPS, at least not in the public and non-competitive league part. In most public games, you typically experience at least one non-respectful player that will accuse you of hacking, and try to create a flame argument that has no purpose.

I don't believe there's a real solution to this, but in my opinion, it happens in most FPS games because there's not enough moderation when it comes to in-game chat moderation or out-of-game report moderation. Also the penalty for being disrespectful is not very harsh and often results in no punishment, which is the reason most people believe they can constantly get away with it.

Even when it comes to competitive play, 'professional' players feel their a tier above other players, and are often quite rude to the lesser experienced, or those that are out of the competitive circle. But unfortunately, that is FPS gaming for you.

Goddish wrote: »

Now granted is is explicitly stated in the rules that one must be able to speak English in this game, but it is the least enforced one in my opinion.

Your rebuttal?

And why is that so unenforced? Hell even a quiz or something upon installation and patches would make me alot happier.

I AM BACK from a block,but you are right polly. Congrats on the MOD status by the way.

tomtom12121 wrote: »

Tried to be clever didn't work.
Role models^_^ we are not talking about a thing that matters.
My ' role models' for the game are those that have vip hack that has anti kick and name change every game

Sarcasm doesn't work. Nor should it be on this thread.

Hackers are being taken care of, and in a big way now that we have some new resources.

The hackers aren't the only ones in this game to be blamed. Many people are, even those who don't hack. No one is free of fault.



Now, Polleus can clean this thread as he wishes, but I'll end with a few last words for everyone as a warning.

[MOD]Rex wrote: »

Sarcasm doesn't work. Nor should it be on this thread.

Hackers are being taken care of, and in a big way now that we have some new resources.

The hackers aren't the only ones in this game to be blamed. Many people are, even those who don't hack. No one is free of fault.



Now, Polleus can clean this thread as he wishes, but I'll end with a few last words for everyone as a warning.

Sarcasm works in the UK!
You should go there some time :P