Vote kick improvements suggestion
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No this isn't another QQ or rage thread.
So today I was playing team death-match, and there were two speed hacks, one on each team. They never once were kicked, even though I put em up for votes until I ran out. However about a quarter of the way into the game, this guy comes in, with an AWM. Then I saw him no scope or quick scope the one speed hacker, ONCE. 15 seconds later, he's out of the game. (OK that was a little QQish, sorry)
I feel like the newer players to the game have no idea of what is actually a hack. Most of them go 1:2 KDR in matches, and I remember when I was like that, I thought almost everyone who killed me was a hack. Especially the guy whose 2:1 and just got a HS and a 3 kill streak. I think it would help if only higher rank players could vote and nominate, except for the rookie server. I think that way, the more experience players would vote off real hackers more consistently, instead of keeping them in the game just to get a win. Also it would eliminate the newer players nominating someone because they are doing well, and voting them out just because they don't like them.
While I'm at it I'll list a couple other suggestions I've seen on the forum. Just to consolidate. Credit for these ideas does not go to me.
1.) Host can select option to enable vote kick, or disable it.
2.) People who don't vote don't count as a disagree, but rather don't count at all.
3.) Enable vote kick in MM and FFA.
Well that's meh 2 cents.
So today I was playing team death-match, and there were two speed hacks, one on each team. They never once were kicked, even though I put em up for votes until I ran out. However about a quarter of the way into the game, this guy comes in, with an AWM. Then I saw him no scope or quick scope the one speed hacker, ONCE. 15 seconds later, he's out of the game. (OK that was a little QQish, sorry)
I feel like the newer players to the game have no idea of what is actually a hack. Most of them go 1:2 KDR in matches, and I remember when I was like that, I thought almost everyone who killed me was a hack. Especially the guy whose 2:1 and just got a HS and a 3 kill streak. I think it would help if only higher rank players could vote and nominate, except for the rookie server. I think that way, the more experience players would vote off real hackers more consistently, instead of keeping them in the game just to get a win. Also it would eliminate the newer players nominating someone because they are doing well, and voting them out just because they don't like them.
While I'm at it I'll list a couple other suggestions I've seen on the forum. Just to consolidate. Credit for these ideas does not go to me.
1.) Host can select option to enable vote kick, or disable it.
2.) People who don't vote don't count as a disagree, but rather don't count at all.
3.) Enable vote kick in MM and FFA.
Well that's meh 2 cents.
Comments
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redsteel12 wrote: »ya I'm not too big on the FFA kicking either.
But if only higher rank players can vote, it might not be as bad as it would be with noobs voting you off all the time.
Yeah but still rank dont mean anything. Most high ranked players are farmers who have no skill at all.UKDissident wrote: »Idea 1 is cool, the other two simply are nonsense.
Why? I think #2 is pretty good. -
2.) People who don't vote don't count as a disagree, but rather don't count at all.
So you can kick all and sundry with a single F11?
Make the abuse of kick vote more widespread?
Assume everyone hacks and therefore people will have to press a button to allow them to simply play?
I know why people suggest this and it is simply because they want hackers (or pros) kicked that are not currently getting kicked. Therefore they want an easier ride and want kicks to pass easily.
The truth however is; even if people had to f12 to save an hacker they would (noone will hardly F12 some random guy), the reason why hackers are not voted out isn't because theres a fault in the kick voting but rather the people that are using it are faulty aka mentally challenged.
Giving the mentally handicapped even more power won't help the situation because they are faulty, they need less power.
The simple fact is they know theres an hacker and CHOOSE to keep him.3.) Enable vote kick in MM and FFA.
And this is one thee most idiotic things I have ever heard of, even if you didn't know the community was mostly dipsh!ts. -
Most of the hackers aren't getting kicked because half of the people in the room don't vote so it counts as F12. Wouldn't hurt more or less than the vote system we have now.
In my opinion, they should test it this way for about a couple of weeks to see how it goes
(Same goes for every great idea like ping restrictions). Then they can see whether or not it should stay that way. We never know what might work unless we test it..right?
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I like #2 it can make sense, it will make people vote properly actually, someone says hack!
and no hack is even abundant at all and the playing good you might want to keep that person in there, maybe not so for the afkers and people that don't care nor care to listen. So if you don't vote your vote is 0 and isn't counted. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Most of the hackers aren't getting kicked because half of the people in the room don't vote so it counts as F12. Wouldn't hurt more or less than the vote system we have now.
In my opinion, they should test it this way for about a couple of weeks to see how it goes
(Same goes for every great idea like ping restrictions). Then they can see whether or not it should stay that way. We never know what might work unless we test it..right?
So these people don't know about kick vote at all? and/or fail to see a box covering a large section of the bottom of the screen and maybe don't realize there is an speed hacker is what you're saying?
I would put it to you they know perfectly well 1) You can kick people 2) There is a kick on the screen 3) They have an hacker on their team.
I would then go on to say that they don't give a damn about you wanting a fair game, they want to win and if they need to they will F12 to win.
If people don't say yes they want this person out of the game then by default they want him to stay thus an auto F12. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Most of the hackers aren't getting kicked because half of the people in the room don't vote so it counts as F12. Wouldn't hurt more or less than the vote system we have now.
In my opinion, they should test it this way for about a couple of weeks to see how it goes
(Same goes for every great idea like ping restrictions). Then they can see whether or not it should stay that way. We never know what might work unless we test it..right?
Totally agree. This would really be worth a shot. Also kick voting in mm would be great. -
Not necessarily. The majority of crossfire it seems now doesn't speak english. Maybe they just can't be bothered to hit anything based on ignorance? If that's the case their vote shouldn't count.UKDissident wrote: »So these people don't know about kick vote at all? and/or fail to see a box covering a large section of the bottom of the screen and maybe don't realize there is an speed hacker is what you're saying?
I would put it to you they know perfectly well 1) You can kick people 2) There is a kick on the screen 3) They have an hacker on their team.
I would then go on to say that they don't give a damn about you wanting a fair game, they want to win and if they need to they will F12 to win.
If people don't say yes they want this person out of the game then by default they want him to stay thus an auto F12. -
UKDissident wrote: »So these people don't know about kick vote at all? and/or fail to see a box covering a large section of the bottom of the screen and maybe don't realize there is an speed hacker is what you're saying?
I would put it to you they know perfectly well 1) You can kick people 2) There is a kick on the screen 3) They have an hacker on their team.
I would then go on to say that they don't give a damn about you wanting a fair game, they want to win and if they need to they will F12 to win.
If people don't say yes they want this person out of the game then by default they want him to stay thus an auto F12.
everytime this guy post its like f/ucking gold
anyways...
just remove the whole thing or make it harder to vote -
everytime this guy post its like f/ucking gold
anyways...
Too much a like, me thinks...just remove the whole thing or make it harder to vote
Definitely very rarely is kick voting used for what it was intended, 99% of the people know kick vote is used/abused (whether they admit it or not), simply to gain a tactical advantage over the other team in the game to secure a win.
That's why they;
Kick noobs from their teams to get better players, and F12 to keep the noobs in the game the other team tries to kick.
QQ the good players on the other team to get them removed from the game, so that they can no longer dominate the game and there is the added bonus that a noob might take his place (even better).
F12 to keep hackers/glitchers in the game to win.
Other personal reasons are:
Jealousy at the kills you are getting.
Greed - Ace stealer's.
Rage.
Spitefulness.
And so on...
and rw 
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