Speed Hack Solutions
1. Let "host" control "in game kicks" instantly. If people don't like host they will leave anyway.
2. Measure "movement velocity" and make their body explode when it exceeds thresh hold.
3. Make people register a "cell phone" with "validation pin" when "creating new accounts," so once banned they cannot so easily return.
Problem with bans is ANYONE can instantly recreate an account in 2 seconds easily.
The games typically last 12 minutes, and 1/2 the people usually don't even vote which results in the speed hacker not getting kicked. 12 minutes of hell before you can kick em, then if they leave before a vote is finished or host finishes loading out of game you cannot kick em. Then they return. The above 3 solutions take these problems into consideration and are relatively effective.
Problem with hacking is it is SOOO BAD these days. My entire clan and I are about to leave this game. We spend tons of real money on ZP. These hacks are COSTING YOUR COMPANY money. We're giving it one more week then we're out. Done. Finished. Your ban system is slow, ineffective, and cannot keep up with the easily recreated accounts.
In the span of an hour I have personally kicked over 20 speed hackers just from 1 room. WTF.
I have given you 3 possible solutions with the 3rd being most easily employed. Do something already.
2. Measure "movement velocity" and make their body explode when it exceeds thresh hold.
3. Make people register a "cell phone" with "validation pin" when "creating new accounts," so once banned they cannot so easily return.
Problem with bans is ANYONE can instantly recreate an account in 2 seconds easily.
The games typically last 12 minutes, and 1/2 the people usually don't even vote which results in the speed hacker not getting kicked. 12 minutes of hell before you can kick em, then if they leave before a vote is finished or host finishes loading out of game you cannot kick em. Then they return. The above 3 solutions take these problems into consideration and are relatively effective.
Problem with hacking is it is SOOO BAD these days. My entire clan and I are about to leave this game. We spend tons of real money on ZP. These hacks are COSTING YOUR COMPANY money. We're giving it one more week then we're out. Done. Finished. Your ban system is slow, ineffective, and cannot keep up with the easily recreated accounts.
In the span of an hour I have personally kicked over 20 speed hackers just from 1 room. WTF.
I have given you 3 possible solutions with the 3rd being most easily employed. Do something already.
Comments
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Excludable wrote: »Or... you could wait for X-Trap to patch itself.
Why the f*ck would we wait on X-Trap?? X-Trap is a fail! Its suppose to keep the hackers out but does it.... NO IT F*CKING DONT!! I totally agree with Sintrix on this one! Like he said the whole f*cking clan is about ready to leave! 60+ ZP buying members will leave! So f*cking dont be dumb and wait on X-Trap bc the coders will jus make a new one! WTF z8 fix this sh*t! Over -
Sintrix2040 wrote: »3. Make people register a "cell phone" with "validation pin" when "creating new accounts," so once banned they cannot so easily return.
So we are gonna get charged for SMS + If the user dont have a cellphone he cant play CF?
Doesnt make sense at all. -
Then leave? No one is asking you to stay.Epicstoner3 wrote: »Why the f*ck would we wait on X-Trap?? X-Trap is a fail! Its suppose to keep the hackers out but does it.... NO IT F*CKING DONT!! I totally agree with Sintrix on this one! Like he said the whole f*cking clan is about ready to leave! 60+ ZP buying members will leave! So f*cking dont be dumb and wait on X-Trap bc the coders will jus make a new one! WTF z8 fix this sh*t! Over -
So we are gonna get charged for SMS + If the user dont have a cellphone he cant play CF?
Doesnt make sense at all.
Yes it makes perfect sense bc all the HACKERS ARE ****ING LIL KIDS!!!!!! an wow ur guna b*tch about a 10 cent message. An no cell use ur friends, ur moms, ur dads. dur use ur f*cking brain! -
Epicstoner3 wrote: »Why the f*ck would we wait on X-Trap?? X-Trap is a fail! Its suppose to keep the hackers out but does it.... NO IT F*CKING DONT!! I totally agree with Sintrix on this one! Like he said the whole f*cking clan is about ready to leave! 60+ ZP buying members will leave! So f*cking dont be dumb and wait on X-Trap bc the coders will jus make a new one! WTF z8 fix this sh*t! Over
Did you know that whatever anti-hacking solution z8games would take, we would always see hackers? Did you know that after each anti-hack software update, theres a new hack coming out with a new code to bypass the latest version of the anti-hack software? I GUESS NOT.
As stated before, just leave if you cant understand that. -
Excludable wrote: »Then leave? No one is asking you to stay.
I stay bc i love this game! i stay bc i love my clan mates! I stay bc i can, but the hacking is getting sooooo bad that you cant go in any room, any server any channel without being 2-4 hackers! My point is we need to do what sintrix talked about an get a new hacking guard sytem bc X-Trap is the worst i have seen yet. -
Echo Server, Channel 8.Epicstoner3 wrote: »I stay bc i love this game! i stay bc i love my clan mates! I stay bc i can, but the hacking is getting sooooo bad that you cant go in any room, any server any channel without being 2-4 hackers! My point is we need to do what sintrix talked about an get a new hacking guard sytem bc X-Trap is the worst i have seen yet.
Or, play in private rooms with your clan.
Don't get us started with X-Trap as the worst anti-cheat. -
Epicstoner3 wrote: »Yes it makes perfect sense bc all the HACKERS ARE ****ING LIL KIDS!!!!!! an wow ur guna b*tch about a 10 cent message. An no cell use ur friends, ur moms, ur dads. dur use ur f*cking brain!
So that would make CF no FREE2Play anymore? Dont you think about that?
Did you get hit by a shovel when you were young or you are just dumb and cant handle hackers?
This is a FREE2PLAY GAME, there will ALWAYS BE HACKERS.
In this case they should just sell the game for 10cent but they wont, so the idea is fckin stupid.
Oh and yeah.. use your brain. -
Did you know that whatever anti-hacking solution z8games would take, we would always see hackers? Did you know that after each anti-hack software update, theres a new hack coming out with a new code to bypass the latest version of the anti-hack software? I GUESS NOT.
As stated before, just leave if you cant understand that.
Hey dip sh*t if u can read i said in what i put that the coders would come up with new ones. im not stupid. i know how to code. went to school for C++. I make my own hack's for Combat Arms. The only game that i accually play legit is CF bc its not that hard. An our clan dont allow it so i follow the rules. So dont try an talk to me like im f*cking retarted. Bc im not. Trust me! -
Epicstoner3 wrote: »Hey dip sh*t if u can read i said in what i put that the coders would come up with new ones. im not stupid. i know how to code. went to school for C++. I make my own hack's for Combat Arms. The only game that i accually play legit is CF bc its not that hard. An our clan dont allow it so i follow the rules. So dont try an talk to me like im f*cking retarted. Bc im not. Trust me!
Just by stating this, prooves me that you are f*ckin ret4rded. -
Good for you.Epicstoner3 wrote: »Hey dip sh*t if u can read i said in what i put that the coders would come up with new ones. im not stupid. i know how to code. went to school for C++. I make my own hack's for Combat Arms. The only game that i accually play legit is CF bc its not that hard. An our clan dont allow it so i follow the rules. So dont try an talk to me like im f*cking retarted. Bc im not. Trust me! -
Lol this guy is now pmin me with some random sh!t
<Hey ass guess what? thats a nice IP adress you have there :P Would really hate for something to happen to your computer.... you seem like a nice guy...wait what am i saying ****! Have fun with a worm! Talk **** to me an think you can get away with it dude you have no idea who you jus f*cked with! I Aced my final's by making a worm...so use ur BRAIN!>
One word; lame. -
I still don't see why people think X-Trap is gonna stop this hack out break. If kids paid attention them changing and altering the code of the game(Their new hack prevention measures) allowed cheat engine to effect the game in such a way to allow the speed hack.
If you noticed the Speed hack came with the last patch(Game Patch). X-trap hadn't patched before or after that patch till a week or two after we have now had two patches that haven't effected the hack.
Think we have to wait for the Halloween patch for the issue to be solved.
Only thing that X-Trap has patched was the Boxes hack for the most part which is fine with me. Guy flying around at Mach 3 isn't as bad as being shot before you peek a corner. -
Epicstoner3 wrote: »Why the f*ck would we wait on X-Trap?? X-Trap is a fail! Its suppose to keep the hackers out but does it.... NO IT F*CKING DONT!! I totally agree with Sintrix on this one! Like he said the whole f*cking clan is about ready to leave! 60+ ZP buying members will leave! So f*cking dont be dumb and wait on X-Trap bc the coders will jus make a new one! WTF z8 fix this sh*t! Over
I hope you get an infraction for impersonating a 5 year old. -
Sintrix2040 wrote: »1. Let "host" control "in game kicks" instantly. If people don't like host they will leave anyway.
2. Measure "movement velocity" and make their body explode when it exceeds thresh hold.
3. Make people register a "cell phone" with "validation pin" when "creating new accounts," so once banned they cannot so easily return.
Problem with bans is ANYONE can instantly recreate an account in 2 seconds easily.
The games typically last 12 minutes, and 1/2 the people usually don't even vote which results in the speed hacker not getting kicked. 12 minutes of hell before you can kick em, then if they leave before a vote is finished or host finishes loading out of game you cannot kick em. Then they return. The above 3 solutions take these problems into consideration and are relatively effective.
Problem with hacking is it is SOOO BAD these days. My entire clan and I are about to leave this game. We spend tons of real money on ZP. These hacks are COSTING YOUR COMPANY money. We're giving it one more week then we're out. Done. Finished. Your ban system is slow, ineffective, and cannot keep up with the easily recreated accounts.
In the span of an hour I have personally kicked over 20 speed hackers just from 1 room. WTF.
I have given you 3 possible solutions with the 3rd being most easily employed. Do something already.
Number 3 is best solution. Would stop hackers quite a bit, But would also stop a lot of people playing,Cuz not everyone has a phone, especially some of the kids who play this game.
On CF Korea, It requires you to give them your KSSN, (Security Number) -
Most people who spend money on ZP which is how Z8 makes money are legit players who don't want to risk losing their account with hacks. Not all but most. @AXO Z8 makes money by ZP. But at this pace Z8 is going to lose a large customer base because legit players are tired of this ****. So while you may not care if clans start leaving or anyone for that matter. I'm sure it will have quite a bit of financial impact on Z8 who should care. There are more legit players than hackers. And legit people tend to spend money on ranking up and weapons. Think about that.
Also even the ability to kick as a host instantly would be a huge help. That is human intervention. No anti-cheat required. And if you don't like the host you can always host your own game etc. This cost nothing. -
Lmao. Ten bucks says he's an angry 12yo with self esteem issues XDLol this guy is now pmin me with some random sh!t
<Hey ass guess what? thats a nice IP adress you have there :P Would really hate for something to happen to your computer.... you seem like a nice guy...wait what am i saying ****! Have fun with a worm! Talk **** to me an think you can get away with it dude you have no idea who you jus f*cked with! I Aced my final's by making a worm...so use ur BRAIN!>
One word; lame.
Gotta say I'm liking the second idea... wouldn't mind seeing anyone blow up randomly. -
Sintrix2040 wrote: »Most people who spend money on ZP which is how Z8 makes money are legit players who don't want to risk losing their account with hacks. Not all but most. @AXO Z8 makes money by ZP. But at this pace Z8 is going to lose a large customer base because legit players are tired of this ****. So while you may not care if clans start leaving or anyone for that matter. I'm sure it will have quite a bit of financial impact on Z8 who should care. There are more legit players than hackers. And legit people tend to spend money on ranking up and weapons. Think about that.
Also even the ability to kick as a host instantly would be a huge help. That is human intervention. No anti-cheat required. And if you don't like the host you can always host your own game etc. This cost nothing.
I never said that I dont care.
I just dont care of people complaining with pointless argument.
Z8games is, for sure, already awayre of this situation, so by having a random kiddy coming in yelling that he found a way to stop cheaters by making this game NOT free2play anymore, yes, its dumb. If they do that, they will, for sure, loose alots of players.
People dont want to pay for something that cant be fixed correctly and im sure you are a part of this, so do I.
The idea of the movement speed would be one good thing but thats not only related with speedhack, theres aimbot/esp/white wall and all other sh!t that CANT be detected by movement speed.
So no, I dont like his idea and I can even say that this is useless.
its just a matter of Xtrap updating file each day (if possible) because each day.. theres a new hack! -
Epicstoner3 wrote: »I stay bc i love this game! i stay bc i love my clan mates! I stay bc i can, but the hacking is getting sooooo bad that you cant go in any room, any server any channel without being 2-4 hackers! My point is we need to do what sintrix talked about an get a new hacking guard sytem bc X-Trap is the worst i have seen yet.
you apparently was not here when they had Game Guard as their anti-cheat lol.... u think a lil Speed Hack and cham is bad?
last summer, summer of '09, there was speed, aimbot, cham, ghost, HP, Gun (can use any gun, even guns that weren't out yet), rapid fire, no recoil, shooting through walls hacks...
yeah all them... AT THE SAME TIME.... when x-Trap came out.. it was amazing til now.. any hacks u did see, if someone actually was, it was VIP.... a hacker just finally took the time to bypass x-trap and released the hack to the public... luckily that dont have all the rest of the hacks like back then lol -
Host kick is best who cares if noobs kick you, they they kick you now.
At least you can make your own rooms that are not run by nubs where you can play fair, kick hackers, QQers, laggers, glitchers - Let the noobs do what they want they want in their own rooms people will quickly learn who the best hosts are and geez if you can't find a room make 1. -
Sintrix2040 wrote: »Most people who spend money on ZP which is how Z8 makes money are legit players who don't want to risk losing their account with hacks. Not all but most. @AXO Z8 makes money by ZP. But at this pace Z8 is going to lose a large customer base because legit players are tired of this ****. So while you may not care if clans start leaving or anyone for that matter. I'm sure it will have quite a bit of financial impact on Z8 who should care. There are more legit players than hackers. And legit people tend to spend money on ranking up and weapons. Think about that.
Also even the ability to kick as a host instantly would be a huge help. That is human intervention. No anti-cheat required. And if you don't like the host you can always host your own game etc. This cost nothing.
i read just the first part... not true lol.... i see major's speed hackin.. with SPOP and Kriss' .. (Major being the gold leaf xD) -
well my phone txt doesn't cost me any money, even if it was 10 cents i wouldn't care.. but if nothing else give the host the ability to kick. If host kicks ace then don't play on his games anymore. Or expand on the idea of kicking as host. Counter Strike had admins on servers, these guys kicked obvious hackers. Also most people got admin after interviewing with the server host. Z8 good easily find dedicated legit players to give admin to. I'm not saying the ability to ban server wide. But the ability to ban from that particular game. These are ideas meant to be criticized and expanded on. A starting point. Positive energy. Not negative.
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