The Ultimate Suggestion - Filters
Ok, as my last suggestion has been quite a success, I thought I would now deliver to the entire community, it's players, MODs, GMs etc: The Ultimate Suggestion.
The ultimate suggestion is simple to explain, however will require some editing as thus there are many pros, and a few small cons, however let us endear, and move forth.
*** I would like to request that you read this thoroughly, it will be worth it, although skip to the bottom if you are utterly lazy ***
Ultimate Suggestion - Power To The People: Filters
The competitive players in crossfire essentially already have everything they want / need to play with, that is, basic kit, basic weapons, few or no extras. If they were not happy with the game - They would not play it! Adding new content as such is not something which is desperately needed by this side of the community or wanted in many cases.
This side of the community want to test their game skills vs. other's game skill. They want it to be fair and even, and as it happens, great job already Smilegate and Z8 - Crossfire is awesome, we really do love it!
HOWEVER -
What is causing the problem at present?
The fact that people are subjected to elements of the game they do not appreciate and in some cases utterly loath. This is the reason why the crossfire community is found so often full of hatred. Notice if you will the vast and numerous quantities of forums posts and game comments about the following:
M12, Kriss, SPOP, Armor, STAR, Scar Light - Just to name a few
The list goes far far far beyond this however right there you are seeing at present the main topics of hate threads by competitive and even public casual gamers in CF. This is a reoccurring fight topic in public games but is on an epic scale in clan games.
Of course I understand also that there is an audience in CF which adore these elements of hate, and it is generally this side of the community who are the ones to appreciate the new patch additions of the Korean based culture such as 1/2 naked girls in pajamas etc, over powered spray guns and bunny outfits. They are 100% within their rights to enjoy these aspects of the game, and we cannot take that away from them.
SO - How do we fix it so that ALL gaming types in the community from extremely casual to extremely competitive can enjoy their preferential aspects of the game?
The suggestion and how to fix this and the rest of the list, in a way which does not have a negative impact upon either audience:
Filters.
Filters which allow a host in a clan game to pick, let us say, "tick boxes" of any game elements they do not want. Each and every player can see the options, so there is nothing of a surprise, yet only the host can modify them.
Forgive me if I am ignorant to some flaw in programming, but I see that "ghost mode" has faded out weapons, or "Sniper Mode" forces the user into sniper rifles only and can ban automatics, then common sense tells me it is possible for the same principal to be applied to all games, whereby any chosen element can be forced out/ FILTERED OUT from the game.
Essentially this would give the competitive community the power to play the game exactly how they see fit, whilst in confidence KNOWING, that people have to play by rules whereby EVERYONE is under the same circumstances and the game is fair. For those who wish to play with all options open - they still can do!
Filters:
Host/Room creator can pick an choose all options
I.e.
SPOP
O
OMOH
X
SAS
X
SWAT
X
M12
O
Scar Light
O
AK47
-X
M4A1
X
AWM
X
Armor
O
Flash Goggles
X
Smoke Helmet
O
etc
Pros:
1. Power to the people - Choice!
2. Individually tailored matches
3. Reduction of conflict and aggression
4. All ranges of players benefit from Extremely casual to extremely competitive
5. Programming rules already present in Ghost mode (no weapons), Knife, pistols and sniper only matches - Little MAJOR new editing needed
6. Promotion and cooperation of competitive leagues/tournament rules adhere easily
Cons:
1. DEV communication needed. ANS: This one is down to you Saidin, I'm powerless.
2. What if a room is made for just a select few weapons which some player's do not have? ANS: The player can see the options picked, have the ability to communicate and request, and can always leave to make his/her own room, or find another which is suitable.
3. Would require constant updating of the Tick Box Board with each new content addition.
This idea gives people the power to play Crossfire as they want to, no matter what it entails.
ROC.RuFuS
The ultimate suggestion is simple to explain, however will require some editing as thus there are many pros, and a few small cons, however let us endear, and move forth.
*** I would like to request that you read this thoroughly, it will be worth it, although skip to the bottom if you are utterly lazy ***
Ultimate Suggestion - Power To The People: Filters
The competitive players in crossfire essentially already have everything they want / need to play with, that is, basic kit, basic weapons, few or no extras. If they were not happy with the game - They would not play it! Adding new content as such is not something which is desperately needed by this side of the community or wanted in many cases.
This side of the community want to test their game skills vs. other's game skill. They want it to be fair and even, and as it happens, great job already Smilegate and Z8 - Crossfire is awesome, we really do love it!
HOWEVER -
What is causing the problem at present?
The fact that people are subjected to elements of the game they do not appreciate and in some cases utterly loath. This is the reason why the crossfire community is found so often full of hatred. Notice if you will the vast and numerous quantities of forums posts and game comments about the following:
M12, Kriss, SPOP, Armor, STAR, Scar Light - Just to name a few
The list goes far far far beyond this however right there you are seeing at present the main topics of hate threads by competitive and even public casual gamers in CF. This is a reoccurring fight topic in public games but is on an epic scale in clan games.
Of course I understand also that there is an audience in CF which adore these elements of hate, and it is generally this side of the community who are the ones to appreciate the new patch additions of the Korean based culture such as 1/2 naked girls in pajamas etc, over powered spray guns and bunny outfits. They are 100% within their rights to enjoy these aspects of the game, and we cannot take that away from them.
SO - How do we fix it so that ALL gaming types in the community from extremely casual to extremely competitive can enjoy their preferential aspects of the game?
The suggestion and how to fix this and the rest of the list, in a way which does not have a negative impact upon either audience:
Filters.
Filters which allow a host in a clan game to pick, let us say, "tick boxes" of any game elements they do not want. Each and every player can see the options, so there is nothing of a surprise, yet only the host can modify them.
Forgive me if I am ignorant to some flaw in programming, but I see that "ghost mode" has faded out weapons, or "Sniper Mode" forces the user into sniper rifles only and can ban automatics, then common sense tells me it is possible for the same principal to be applied to all games, whereby any chosen element can be forced out/ FILTERED OUT from the game.
Essentially this would give the competitive community the power to play the game exactly how they see fit, whilst in confidence KNOWING, that people have to play by rules whereby EVERYONE is under the same circumstances and the game is fair. For those who wish to play with all options open - they still can do!
Filters:
Host/Room creator can pick an choose all options
I.e.
SPOP
O
OMOH
X
SAS
X
SWAT
X
M12
O
Scar Light
O
AK47
-X
M4A1
X
AWM
X
Armor
O
Flash Goggles
X
Smoke Helmet
O
etc
Pros:
1. Power to the people - Choice!
2. Individually tailored matches
3. Reduction of conflict and aggression
4. All ranges of players benefit from Extremely casual to extremely competitive
5. Programming rules already present in Ghost mode (no weapons), Knife, pistols and sniper only matches - Little MAJOR new editing needed
6. Promotion and cooperation of competitive leagues/tournament rules adhere easily
Cons:
1. DEV communication needed. ANS: This one is down to you Saidin, I'm powerless.
2. What if a room is made for just a select few weapons which some player's do not have? ANS: The player can see the options picked, have the ability to communicate and request, and can always leave to make his/her own room, or find another which is suitable.
3. Would require constant updating of the Tick Box Board with each new content addition.
This idea gives people the power to play Crossfire as they want to, no matter what it entails.
ROC.RuFuS
Comments
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^.^ A little long but I read this:
"SPOP
O
OMOH
X
SAS
X
SWAT
X
M12
O
Scar Light
O
AK47
-X
M4A1
X
AWM
X
Armor
O
Flash Goggles
X
Smoke Helmet
O
etc "
and said +1. its good to let people decide what kind of weapons/nades/Characters they want in game.
+1 To the filter. Sorry for not reading all of it. -
do you see this being available only in clan matches or also in public rooms?
i like the idea. very good.
i suppose in both ,
very nice post even though i play this game for 4 days i've seen many people saying SL noob spop noob M12 spray etc. this would remove a lot of hate and harrasment. -
i suppose in both ,
very nice post even though i play this game for 4 days i've seen many people saying SL noob spop noob M12 spray etc. this would remove a lot of hate and harrasment.
yeah. i don´t have a problem with the ocasional SL or m12 spraying, armored SPOP but in some rooms its really annoying. the thought of them being separated in in scarlightville is just very tempting. -
Very very good thread and suggestion once again rufus. I support this thoroughly. Only problem I could see is if the room hasn't allowed like ak47/m4/xm8 etc etc and only left it with like zp guns. Obviously some people would be kind of stuck then.
I suggest having just a couple of guns that can be filtered:
M12
kriss
scar light
thompson
xm8
k2
g36k
Type89
m4-custom
ak47/m4 silver
ak47/m4/deagle gold
xm8-adv
Bassically an option for all wogl dissallowed guns. Also,the g36 and type 89 are on the ban list,so if someone wants to make a room where 100% wallbang guns arent allowed - this could be used. -
Of course I understand also that there is an audience in CF which adore these elements of hate, and it is generally this side of the community who are the ones to appreciate the new patch additions of the Korean based culture such as 1/2 naked girls in pajamas etc, over powered spray guns and bunny outfits. They are 100% within their rights to enjoy these aspects of the game, and we cannot take that away from them.
ROC.RuFuS
Got a problem with us koreans having them
jkjk great idea -
Nah, than you just have to search longer and longer for a preffered room and you'll have to wait longer when you create one.
It's a nice point, but what you are doing is taking here one small negative let's give it a value of "1" and trying to outweigh it vs a multitude of positives lets give them a value of say "9".
And at the end of the day - this one teenyweeny negative can be answered with:
If someone is waiting too long, then they can always compromise, a half way point?
If someone is waiting too long, then joining a clan of people with similar preferences is promoted = community booster.
If someone is waiting too long, they can now look to their new and super duper friends invite list and play with people from previous similar ruled games.
If someone is waiting too long, then at the end of the day in the worst case scenario - they could always just put up with it, and join a no restrictions game - which I have no doubt will still make the majority.
It just comes down to how stubborn a person wants to be.
If you refer to this post: http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=85340
You should find that anytime you have lost in finding you're desired public game, should have been made up or at least balanced if my other suggestion is implemented, from finding other clans to scrim with. -
+1Very very good thread and suggestion once again rufus. I support this thoroughly. Only problem I could see is if the room hasn't allowed like ak47/m4/xm8 etc etc and only left it with like zp guns. Obviously some people would be kind of stuck then.
I suggest having just a couple of guns that can be filtered:
M12
kriss
scar light
thompson
xm8
k2
g36k
Type89
m4-custom
ak47/m4 silver
ak47/m4/deagle gold
xm8-adv
Bassically an option for all wogl dissallowed guns. Also,the g36 and type 89 are on the ban list,so if someone wants to make a room where 100% wallbang guns arent allowed - this could be used.
IknowIts2Short
-
I'm hesitating about this, because you are collecting a few items as a group and not everyone likes that. George wants with scar light and Clinton wants without scar light. This means that not everyone wants the same collection of items.
I personally think that you should make collections like ESL collection or WOGL collection and when there's another ladder/league, then you make a new collection. Another collection would be: GP items only. So the collections I suggest are: ESL collection, WOGL collection & GP items collections. Then my 4th suggested collection is a collection witch you can make yourself. Only the host of the room can say what he wants or what he doesn't want.
Finally if you got this, every room has some kind of collection and then players can't find a normal room with just everything allowed. I think it won't become a brilliant idea in practice. -
needforumID wrote: »I'm hesitating about this, because you are collecting a few items as a group and not everyone likes that. George wants with scar light and Clinton wants without scar light. This means that not everyone wants the same collection of items.
I personally think that you should make collections like ESL collection or WOGL collection and when there's another ladder/league, then you make a new collection. Another collection would be: GP items only. So the collections I suggest are: ESL collection, WOGL collection & GP items collections. Then my 4th suggested collection is a collection witch you can make yourself. Only the host of the room can say what he wants or what he doesn't want.
Finally if you got this, every room has some kind of collection and then players can't find a normal room with just everything allowed. I think it won't become a brilliant idea in practice.
You're making it out as if EVERY room would have these selections. That's simply not thinking logically. Of course there would still be public rooms with everything allowed. Not everyone likes the competitive aspects of this suggestion which is what it was meant for. This is a brilliant idea that allows BOTH sides, competitive and non-competitive to be at a happy medium. We all know the non-competitive community is MUCH larger than the competitive community. You thinking that there wouldn't be "everything allowed" rooms, is incorrect. Just look at the sheer numbers from competitive community to non-competitive community and there is your answer.
+100 Excellent idea.
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