Idea on how to fix a ferrari, AKA speedhacking.

You guys every tought about making weapons weight server sided?...


lets say ,m4 theoric weight number is 3, pistol would be 2, knife 1... got it?

Now lets say someone has the brilliant idea to make his m4 weight -3, he would go faster and "still look legit" (yet very easy to spot cause of the obviousness of this hack.) Maybe he would not even get reported.

he would make pistol weight -10 so now he gets untouchable...

I believe it could be fractions to... .5 (a half.) would make you twice faster

I wont even bother telling you what would happen with a knife.


This is the most logic explanation I got on a speedhack, yet I could be wrong.

Still worth testing. ( <--- This is a suggestion for devs / xTrap scripters )



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Comments

  • Um... :3
    I really think its an easy fix. They fudged up. It's an easy fix for sure. They use cheat engine to use the speed hack...how hard will it be for them? ;)
  • well if someone has something that makes more sense than me, say it!
    i'm repeating myself but, I MIGHT BE WRONG. Feel free to debate.

    Edit:
    Um... :3
    I really think its an easy fix. They fudged up. It's an easy fix for sure. They use cheat engine to use the speed hack...how hard will it be for them? ;)


    I know its easy to find a way around when you know hexadecimals, specialy when u can monitor changes that occurs on certain actions like this byte is 00 when ur still, 01 when walking and 11 when running, then the only job left is to find a way to inject it.... wich is why i tought about making it server sided... might remove all ways to inject the hack, or just make the "precious" bytes of code invisible to anyone but devs and xTrap for working purposes.
  • many things are not server sided because it increases the amount of lag. and since the servers cf is running on are crap, it won't be able to hold. but in this occation, id have to agree with you. its a very short and simple script, and it should be serversided too. also chams could work the same way... like a detection of too much Green colors would result in a game crash, it would be pretty simple also.
  • SZYMEN wrote: »
    many things are not server sided because it increases the amount of lag....

    Yeah i tought about that... thats why i said i might be wrong, since it could already be server sided... and if not, what kind of ping raise would it mean to make it?


    edit:...ps: I fail at coding, used to be good working on this kind of things when i was younger (Hack-this-site .... i was used to spend time on those kind of websites, and used to make hackers wargames (there is one single server and you have to hold it the longer you can with the help of your team, before the other team finds the flaw and gets in and try to hold it.) so yeah...)

    now i just gave up on it since i got no more fun out of it
  • Yeah i tought about that... thats why i said i might be wrong, since it could already be server sided... and if not, what kind of ping raise would it mean to make it?

    then again, that script u said should be very simple and could increase ping by like 1. no big
  • SZYMEN wrote: »
    then again, that script u said should be very simple and could increase ping by like 1. no big

    Wish one of the devs is gonna have a peak in here so we can know if that would work or not. dont really care about how long it would take(unlike most people)
  • I understand what you are saying. (basically)

    Wouldn't the hack creators just change the weight in their software so it was higher,
    rather than lower? I think it would be pretty interesting to see some slow walking, surprised
    players though!
  • If that's actually how the game is coded, pure brilliance on your part :)

    Very well thought out.
  • lol, you're all wrong

    they bypass xtrap and use to hack
    http://www.cheatengine.org/

    and beleive me, CE is very powerful when you master it *coughserversideGPhackispossible*
  • Efficient wrote: »
    I understand what you are saying. (basically)

    Wouldn't the hack creators just change the weight in their software so it was higher,
    rather than lower? I think it would be pretty interesting to see some slow walking, surprised
    players though!

    exactly, you could make urself walk as slow as u were on jupiter if done good. they can go fast, they can go slow.


    Munzta wrote: »
    lol, you're all wrong

    they bypass xtrap and use to hack
    http://www.cheatengine.org/

    and beleive me, CE is very powerful when you master it *coughserversideGPhackispossible*


    But then im not speaking about how they make the hack work(so bypassing), but how the hack works at its core... so it can be fixed for good... , i mean even if they succeed in bypassing xTrap, the speedhack fonction from that very single hack would not work(while not fixing the aimbot problem for now... but one thing at a time)... just wondering if it has already been tryed or if not, would it work?...


    Take an example... lets say they want a new weapon in the game, they have to script it, then make the models... and they have to input em in THE GAME.... they're not making em usable trough xFire even if they got all files... what is happening is they directly change the game's core itself because xFire is not able to detect the hack so it can't shut the program if the core is changing...



    OMG, im writing walls now.
  • Sounds like it could be it. Probably not though? Idk
  • RealTricks wrote: »
    Sounds like it could be it. Probably not though? Idk

    So i'll just take a bet and say that you and st4ydown are brothers/family or even clones, lawl why didnt u just quoted him and said u agreed? :P
  • Hadn't played in a while, came on for a bit and everyone and their grandmother is using speedhacks right now, please fix thanks.

    Oh and kudos on making a MIAMI server, too bad its always empty, hopefully the latinos will figure it out sometime this decade.
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    Hadn't played in a while, came on for a bit and everyone and their grandmother is using speedhacks right now, please fix thanks.

    Oh and kudos on making a MIAMI server, too bad its always empty, hopefully the latinos will figure it out sometime this decade.

    That is because they all use delta for the GP's... wich is kinda dumb cause they would get more cause of the simple fact they lag less so they can kill more x)
  • exactly, you could make urself walk as slow as u were on jupiter if done good. they can go fast, they can go slow.






    But then im not speaking about how they make the hack work(so bypassing), but how the hack works at its core... so it can be fixed for good... , i mean even if they succeed in bypassing xTrap, the speedhack fonction from that very single hack would not work(while not fixing the aimbot problem for now... but one thing at a time)... just wondering if it has already been tryed or if not, would it work?...


    Take an example... lets say they want a new weapon in the game, they have to script it, then make the models... and they have to input em in THE GAME.... they're not making em usable trough xFire even if they got all files... what is happening is they directly change the game's core itself because xFire is not able to detect the hack so it can't shut the program if the core is changing...



    OMG, im writing walls now.

    well, this speed hack, they basically fast foward your game, like 2x ROF, 2x Speed, 2X everything

    you cant patch that ingame, thats why we have Xtrap
  • Munzta wrote: »
    well, this speed hack, they basically fast foward your game, like 2x ROF, 2x Speed, 2X everything

    you cant patch that ingame, thats why we have Xtrap

    False, the speed hacker would see people being "froze in time" while no one slows, its only his game that is hacked... that means its "Client-Sided".... need I say more?
  • Okay so, this is morning and yet no MOD came here to talk about it... dont want the thread dying so just bumpin
  • You guys every tought about making weapons weight server sided?...


    lets say ,m4 theoric weight number is 3, pistol would be 2, knife 1... got it?

    Now lets say someone has the brilliant idea to make his m4 weight -3, he would go faster and "still look legit" (yet very easy to spot cause of the obviousness of this hack.) Maybe he would not even get reported.

    he would make pistol weight -10 so now he gets untouchable...

    I believe it could be fractions to... .5 (a half.) would make you twice faster

    I wont even bother telling you what would happen with a knife.


    This is the most logic explanation I got on a speedhack, yet I could be wrong.

    Still worth testing. ( <--- This is a suggestion for devs / xTrap scripters )



    helldabadkarma.jpg

    you think you in wrong forum suggestion yes i know ?
  • You guys every tought about making weapons weight server sided?...


    lets say ,m4 theoric weight number is 3, pistol would be 2, knife 1... got it?

    Now lets say someone has the brilliant idea to make his m4 weight -3, he would go faster and "still look legit" (yet very easy to spot cause of the obviousness of this hack.) Maybe he would not even get reported.

    he would make pistol weight -10 so now he gets untouchable...

    I believe it could be fractions to... .5 (a half.) would make you twice faster

    I wont even bother telling you what would happen with a knife.


    This is the most logic explanation I got on a speedhack, yet I could be wrong.

    Still worth testing. ( <--- This is a suggestion for devs / xTrap scripters )



    helldabadkarma.jpg



    LOL put alot of thought into that one except perhaps u dont actually know what there useing to get the speed. Its a program that would work for ANY game so its not adjusting any weapon weight for cf.
  • hi808 wrote: »
    you think you in wrong forum suggestion yes i know ?

    I didnt see where i made a suggestion exept for the post scriptum????....
    Dobson420 wrote: »
    LOL put alot of thought into that one except perhaps u dont actually know what there useing to get the speed. Its a program that would work for ANY game so its not adjusting any weapon weight for cf.

    I saw that kind of thing a WHILE ago... but eh it fks so much with the latenty of the game isnt it? i just dont get why would someone speed to the points he teleports if its gonna automaticly make him DC....
  • Um... :3
    I really think its an easy fix. They fudged up. It's an easy fix for sure. They use cheat engine to use the speed hack...how hard will it be for them? ;)

    That's what I think too.
  • You guys every tought about making weapons weight server sided?...

    OP is correct. Valve's source engine, even in multiplayer, has movement speed, reload speed, and a bunch of other things server side so they CANNOT be messed with.

    They use 'client prediction' to hide the delay of the server confirming your movement and actions. Works great.