B-hop nooby or not (real one)

you're moving while invisible...'nough said.

EXCEPT FOR THIS: well then again it does take skill to do that.

but then again again....that's like saying it takes skill to be a cheat, * I'M NOT SAYING IT'S CHEATING,

don't try to twist my words, cuz if you try, I'll just correct you. haha!

btw, was b-hopping perfectly design specifically for ghosts by the game designers?
___if not, HA!! if so, damn...___

BUT THEN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN, b-hop can spot a chammer (use your common sence, cuz i dont want to explain how it b-hopping can). ALSO it can provide people with a good challenge.

bu-u-u-t....some jerks over do it and, well.....Lag + shovel + b-hopping + Lag + more Lag = rage quit this match.




_______________following is the top 3 most likley response to this thread_____________


You- "o stfu you noob" "stop QQing and get some skills you noob" " just deal with it noob!"


_______________following is my response_____________________________________

Me- OK 1) I'm not taking sides dumass

2) I'm not QQing. I'm VERY good at GM while being GR most of the times.

3)well, i'll deal with it when a REASONABLE response to this thread appears stating that b-hopping is a advantage that GR's will have to comprehend with.
(too many "smarty" words for you?)


ok so just be reasonable and HONEST in the answer.


P.S : ( side note -YOU'RE MOVING WHILE INVISIBLE....WITH A fE!king SHOVEL IN YOUR HANDS!!)

Comments

  • Like I commented on your other thread...
    I didn't read the whole thing but I love bhopping.
    I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

    Although a few zillion patches ago it was more difficult to accomplish. Now almost everyone can bhop.
    amirite.
  • Without bhop it would be impossible for BL to put up a fight against pro GR pin pointers. So imo no, it's not nooby at all.
  • Most of the people can't bhop flaw*****, and make a mistake by running at you when you're close.

    It's not like it's unfair. If people would just stand still and move when nobody is watching, well, it would take forever and GR would be overpowered.
  • When you look on some people who do some failing bhop i would say bhop is more then fair :D
    I mean with that much Wallhacker dudes is it okay :P
    So it doesn't matter :D
    For me it's fair^^

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  • its as fair as u want it to b. its not like its a mod or hack. I mean come on i love bhopping its the sht!!!!
  • Try playing ghost w/o bunnyhopping the whole game, sure your teamates can carry u to a win but ur score will be bad

    ps. this thread isnt a suggestion
  • I bunny hop in other modes, but people still see me...chammers.:(
  • lbrettl wrote: »
    Bhop = fair
    No bhop = really unfair.

    Really wasting time to explain it again and again so this ^
  • Any decent GM player can counter and deal with a bunnyhoper.
  • Bhopin is one of the few advantages ghosts have, i love gm as bl cause its a challenge, u said u fare well in gm as gr, try playin as a ghost w/o bhop come back and delete this thread. The other thing is its called pinpointing, pay better attention to your surroundings and you'll be fine
  • Think about that it would be boring and unfair for ghosts if they didnt bhop.Well noise down makes this shet unfair :/ They should make it for ZP.
  • WishMunzta wrote: »
    You'd fail without b-hop
    lbrettl wrote: »
    Bhop = fair
    No bhop = really unfair.

    The_Tazz wrote: »
    Without bhop it would be impossible for BL to put up a fight against pro GR pin pointers. So imo no, it's not nooby at all.
    rawrBella wrote: »
    Like I commented on your other thread...
    I didn't read the whole thing but I love bhopping.
    I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

    Although a few zillion patches ago it was more difficult to accomplish. Now almost everyone can bhop.
    amirite.
    its as fair as u want it to b. its not like its a mod or hack. I mean come on i love bhopping its the sht!!!!
    Any decent GM player can counter and deal with a bunnyhoper.
    Bhopin is one of the few advantages ghosts have, i love gm as bl cause its a challenge, u said u fare well in gm as gr, try playin as a ghost w/o bhop come back and delete this thread. The other thing is its called pinpointing, pay better attention to your surroundings and you'll be fine
    Think about that it would be boring and unfair for ghosts if they didnt bhop.Well noise down makes this shet unfair :/ They should make it for ZP.

    hard to beleive everyone has forgotton that people used to be able to play BL without it just fine back in the day.

    back in the day 80-90% of people learned to compete without it just fine.
    now that its more prevelent, that skill has gone away and we now reliy on the b-hop to save us?

    where has the skill gone?

    yes i will b-hop myself but im just pointing out that we used to not need it >..>
  • if there's no bhop,ghosts will QQ alot
    and who cares about bhop,wallers can see all
  • bhopping is fair. I get bored in matches where no one knows how. (and usually kicked from them as well) I like the challenge of finding the bhopping/breath down ghost.
    but the shovel ! fk the shovel. I hate the fkn shovel.
    it lags, one hit killer , and breath down ghost with shovel has huge advantage , the user needs no skills , just stand and bonk the passers by.
    the axe is fine. I don't mind the axe. takes a HS to one hit kill like the knife. bhopping/breath down with axe is a hard ghost to kill. but very fair with the pinpointers. the shovel is for thoes who don't want to take the time to learn how to bhop/headshot.
  • Yeh B-hopping gives BL an Advantage and I think we should get those lights that you put on the guns XD

    I read a thread where someone suggested putting lights on weapons and being able to see ghost (when they are very near) if you point the light at them.

    Beh I dunno... I don't really mind bunny hoping all you gotta do is put volume to 100 and that takes care of the bunny hoppers :D
  • Bunnyhopping was an accident. The devs saw it balanced Ghost Mode and improved the general quality of gameplay.

    Without bunnyhopping, ghost mode would be way, way too easy for me. I prefer ghost mode with bunnyhopping because it balances it.
  • SilverSil wrote: »
    hard to beleive everyone has forgotton that people used to be able to play BL without it just fine back in the day.

    back in the day 80-90% of people learned to compete without it just fine.
    now that its more prevelent, that skill has gone away and we now reliy on the b-hop to save us?

    where has the skill gone?

    yes i will b-hop myself but im just pointing out that we used to not need it >..>

    Um...back in the day...BL lost almost every match. Now they're kind of OP with all the stuff they got.
  • LOL I was facing a ghost team full of BRs and Germans and they all QQed because they kept dying.
  • XxLavibixX wrote: »
    LOL I was facing a ghost team full of BRs and Germans and they all QQed because they kept dying.

    hahaha good
  • As has been mentioned many times before, Bunny-Hopping is a necessary evil. Because more and more people become better at Pin-Pointing, and even to a point where breath-down makes little to no difference to them, Ghosts need to have something to still be able to get in striking distance of the Globals.

    When your breath tells your enemy that you are hiding somewhere close by, then despite him not being able to see you, you'll still be a sitting duck if he sprays the area where your breath is coming from. Because without Bunny-Hopping, you are either a prone target that can be located through sound, or a moving target that can be spotted through sight. And especially when playing against Pin-Pointers wearing headphones, you'll never be able to get close enough to kill them.

    Now, thanks to Bunny-Hopping, you can be a moving target that isn't visible, and is harder to Pin-Point by sound, because your breath isn't coming from a fixed location.

    Also. It's not true that Bunny-Hopping turns off breath entirely. Good Bunny-Hopping, however, does cause to be a slight delay between your character's location, and the location of your breath. And because you can cover a great deal of distance with Bunny-Hopping, it creates the illusion of having no breath. Because you can move in on your target AND kill him well before your breath catches up with you.
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  • IMHO, bhopping should not even be possible. HOWEVER, it makes the game much more balanced, so i sez it is a legit tactic. I wonder how well I could do it... I'm usually GR.

    And yeah, Lolli_roger pretty much ended the discussion, so...








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  • I say it makes the game mode more evenly matched, without it, GR would dominate every game, like before b-hopping was even discovered.
  • I can personally handle bhoppers quite easily (Headset + Spas-12), unless they cheat with shovel as you said it. But let's be objective.

    Bhop was never intended by devs, it's just a controls jamming glitch. Why do I say that ? Well, here's an evidence : watch a replay, bhoppers appear, because the animating system isn't the same than in-game and isn't glitched. Bhopping is a glitch usage, and therefore a cheat.

    cheat : unintended feature of a program that allows a player to get more power when he shouldn't.

    But again, before you call me "oh QQer", this is a glitch that is very useful, like when 4 guys are guarding the C4 and you're alone... I really thing it's more fair with it.

    The real problem is another : ghosts often feel invincible when they are unvisible. That lets you get called "hacker" and quickly kicked if you ever try to pinpoint them, but bhop is even worse.
    Because the guy who did it thinks "I bhopped,he was chamming so he waited for me to move to kill me, but I was invisible, HA ! I MUST GET HIM KICKED !!!"
    Even though you actually just shot a flashing jumping rabbit, way more visible than a transparent ghost walking slowly...

    So here's my word : keep the bhop glitch but KILL THE SHOVELS !