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K4thy wrote: »

So, kinda like this...



...am I right?

A Deagle doesn't have the threading for a silencer irl. It'd also make the gun far to crazy. I'd go for a silenced AK-47 first, a H&K Mk23 w/silencer, then a Deagle with some kinda funky mod (We already have the scope, lol).
Anywho's @ the OP, this is a cool idea.:D

PROACEX1 wrote: »

A Deagle doesn't have the threading for a silencer irl. It'd also make the gun far to crazy. I'd go for a silenced AK-47 first, a H&K Mk23 w/silencer, then a Deagle with some kinda funky mod (We already have the scope, lol).
Anywho's @ the OP, this is a cool idea.:D

PROACEX1 wrote: »

True, but on top of that you'll have to take into account that the muzzle gas expelled from a .50 Action Express round is enough to wear down and overheat a sound depressor in only a couple of shots. It'd literally melt before the clip is emptied.
Secondly, it currently isn't possible to utilize a sound depressor because of ammunition. There isn't any .50 Action Express round rated for subsonic use. For a gun to be properly silenced it must first have alternative subsonic rounds developed for that specific use. And even if a subsonic round were created, the gas design would still melt the sound depressor in a few shots.
Thirdly, on top of the heat produced by such a large round, the pressure would be enough to shear off a sound depressor's internal support structure, probably leading to a misfiring of the weapon.
Fourth, and last but not least, IMI doesn't make custom threaded barrel's for consumer use for such a large chambered handgun (military or otherwise). Only in movies do ya see em. That and Rainbow Six Three, lolololololol.
Overall, it'd be totally awesome.
Would it work? No.:(

Lolli_Roger wrote: »

First of all, the quality of the suppressor determents how fast it gets rendered useless. And a suppressor that is rendered useless from 7 shots or less, being it a .50 AE caliber or not, is called a water bottle suppressor, a.k.a. useless piece of crap.

Its true that no suppressor is made to last indefinitely, no matter what type of bullet is fired through it, because the heat exhaust would eventually destroy the baffles. However, pretty much the rest of you post is utter bull.

You should first do your homework before entering a debate with me about firearms. And I suggest you start here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor

...and work your way through the external links. Once you are done there, I can suggest about 40-50 books I've read on the subject of firearms, suppressors and various types of ammo, including sub-sonic ammo. And then I'm not even talking about my hands-on experience.

I've done plenty of hands on experience, I've woredk with cops on a day to day basis. Not to mention my current major is in engineering with a specialization in physics.

You HAVE to use subsonic ammunition for a sound depressor to actually lower the ballistic crack to a sub-140db unless the ammunition is designed specifically with sound depression using an internal system in mind. With supersonic ammunition the results vary far more and will not be able to be reduced below 150db's consistently (Subsonic ammunition varies between 130-140 on many normal calibers). Without subsonic ammunition the far greater heat and pressure buildup would wear down the internals of the depressor extremely quickly (remember, most depressor work off of the wet design mechanics). Those kinds of silencers are rendered useless after 2-3 shots by rifle-based gas systems do to the heat buildup vaporizing the typical water supply in the silencer (I.E., a Desert Eagle). Hence why you don't see people walking around with silencers on large caliber weapons. The other way to do it is with a steel suppressor, but we'll get to that in a second.
Regardless of the ammunition, the sound depressor material's needed to effectively reduce the decibels put out by such a large round would be very heavy and relatively ineffective. Example of the cost, length, and weight for an M82A1 sound depressor which actually works: http://www.opsinc.us/product.php@prodId=3rd50mbs82a1m.html
Even then it wouldn't be very useful with supersonic ammunition at the muzzle velocity of most .50 rounds, it would reduce the flash and the resulting smoke kicked up by the weapon but wouldn't be able to reduce the report effectively.

Oh, and try googling for anything which even proves that an IMI Desert Eagle .50 BMG round suppressor exists and get back with me. You probably won't find much, cause it doesn't realistically exist for a typical consumer. It'd cost a huge amount, far more then the guns worth (about $1,400). The cost for owning a suppressor is another $200 in America. A .50 steel suppressor is around $1,650. Add the cost of an extended custom barrel and it'll be far more then the gun itself 9it'd have to be made by an experienced gunsmith). Oh, and to top it off, the sound suppression at best would reduce it to around 130db's under prime conditions. Realistic? Not really. The total cost for a suppression mod would be around $2,000 with a steel suppressor. It'd offset the weight and balance of the gun considerably, not to mention reduce the MOA. And that's for a rifle suppressor. A pistol suppressor would cost considerably more, probably around $3,500 for the whole mod. Baffles for such suppressors might be rated up to 2,000 shots, but then again they're ineffective in just about every other performance consideration aside from flash and dust kicked up by the weapon. A wet design suppressor would be a bit more effective (As said above it'd be done before one shoots 7 rounds however), but regardless the size required for a .50 weapon would make the pistol relatively useless (for CQB you might as well be carrying an SMG).

You have no clue what you're talking about if you simply dismiss my whole post as "utter BS" and can't provide anything other than a simple wiki reference. What I said is was true and you countered it with a Wikipedia link, burden's on you to disprove it a bit better then that. Go ahead and list all 40 of those books btw.
Respectfully,
PROACEX1

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