The XM8.
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For public games, it doesn't matter. For competitive play, instead of just nerfing it, don't allow it. Look at the WEM rules, they didn't allow it for a reason. To stop useless wall spammers in hopes of getting some good damage. Takes the fun out of competitive CF.
If I'm not mistaken the other versions m4's are still 100% wallbang.....oh and they have the black widow with spam spots in it -
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I heard it was 80% effective now... I'm not an XM8 user so I wouldn't know.
Anyways, I do agree it's wall-bang capabilities should be nerfed, but not so much that it's near enough useless through walls/boxes like the M4.
not sure how much fact is in this statement but i have seen once in a wogl match i did 81 damage with a headshot thru a box on port with my xm8, i know i've also done 100 damage headshots often though so it confused me. -
My two cents on it.
To be honest, XM8 is a great gun with special qualities. There isn't an exact spray to memorize, like the AK-47.
This had been mentioned before. The AK-47 is the strongest, XM8 with wallbang, and the M4 with long distance accuracy, and AWM for sniping. If you play these guns with strats, it'll be effective.
But to my understanding, a whole team with XM8 on a map like port is very, very unexciting. Teams just spam, spam able spots and do enormous amounts of damage.
Some people will argue, that the XM8 has a terrible spray, and the wall bang makes up for it.
I will not argue that. But you could say that you could just spam a spot, before they rush in, and get a couple of picks just like that.
I am not totally in for the nerfing of the wall bang for the XM8.
They should just limit it in competitive leagues. -
Mehhh... I dunnoo...
Scar Light has low recoil advantage
XM8 has 100% box damage advantage
AK47 has the biggest power + regular spray pattern advantage
AWM is 1 hit 1 kill (minus legging) advantage
M4 has fast rate of fire and yet still effective over long distance advantage
M4-Custom has a completely silenced advantage
My point is -
There are lots of different guns, all better or worse for different situations. You may hate XM8ers spraying through boxes, but if you are an AK player, then people will hate you equally for putting to work an almost straight spray pattern with 35-38 bullets and 2-3 shots per kill?
Ups n Downs, Swings n Roundabouts, a vicious circle mate.
You have to work out you're opponent and adjust your game play to beat them, that's how crossfire is, it is not like Delta Force or other games were there is just one gun. The beauty of having varied weapons is that it gives people the opportunity to become specialists.
Leave the XM8ers to guarding wooden areas and boxing people, it is a satisfying and skillful art. Leave the AKers for taking down rush opponents in close range, leave the snipers to play their picks, and the M4 players to be that driving force.
It is what makes the game beautiful.
Conclusion: XM8 should stay as it is.
THIS,
i'm starting to come to the conclusion that CF players are whining on the forums about how every gun is OP just becaouse they loose to someone in a game whoi is using it. except for the obvious OP Guns (ScarL m12s), i have seen threads compling about aug, winchester and now XM8
give it a rest.. just enjoy the game... -
Without the wall bang, what's so special about the XM8?
Horrible spray pattern, if you're not used to it, and insufficient power.
I used the XM8 before it became popular, I didn't even know it had wallbangability. And I was pretty good with it. -
Wallbang is just a strategy to use with the gun. One player on a team using it could help turn an entire game around if they know how to use it. Also, entire teams should not rely on it. A team should be made up of 1 awm, 2-3 ak/m4/regular competitive guns and then a weird gun to mix it up IE) xm8/k2/aug which all have specialties and need a certain kind of player to use them correctly.
Obviously what a team is made up of is up for debate. ^ is just a rough example. IMO the xm8 should not be nerfed. -
No.
XM8's wall bang is what makes it unique.
People keep saying it's OP an some saying it's only good with wallbang.
XM8 is not OP and it's not bad without wallbang.
It is a match for m4 and ak in a map without spam-able objects.
It has high accuracy and good power.It still has a semi weird spray pattern,so it balances out.
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