The XM8.

As we all know, the wall damage of the XM8 is 100% efficient, like the MP5 and G36K.

That makes an unfair advantage for all who use it. I'm tired of seeing people spamming a box with the XM8 just because they do know that it will take more damage than any other gun through wood.

I'm an AK/AWM user, some people are M4 users, etc. M4 takes 9 HP through walls.

Why this thread? I think the XM8 wall damage should be nerfed.

I don't know how well community will react to this thread, but I would like you to share your opinion.
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  • XM8 is weaker than AK47 AWM and less accurate than M4 so yea pretty fair.
  • I've been using the xm8 for the past 4-5 days.
    I must say, in my opinion it's easier than the scar-l.

    I average 10 wallbangs per scrim.
  • I think AK/M4 wall bang should be buffed.
  • -1

    I use my XM8 just because of its wallbang... Whithout it its a stupid gun -.-
  • Iv jus started using the xm8
    Been like a week now.

    Its very good for big maps like, BW & Port.
    Theirs boxes and all sorts.

    Wallbanging is awesome in those maps and i would be very dissapointed if it would be nerfd.
  • XM8 is weaker than AK47 AWM and less accurate than M4 so yea pretty fair.

    Lol, son .
  • You don't get to decide what gets nerfed anyways. For some strange reason the developers of this game nerf the weapons that are already supposed to be good. Example would be the old m4 or the old m4c. Yet they don't nerf the super OP weps like the Scar Light or that m12s.
  • Zeepee wrote: »
    You don't get to decide what gets nerfed anyways. For some strange reason the developers of this game nerf the weapons that are already supposed to be good. Example would be the old m4 or the old m4c. Yet they don't nerf the super OP weps like the Scar Light or that m12s.

    Did he say he decides?
    No.

    Sit down and shut up.
  • if xm8 gets nerfed i will find where u guys live and personnaly punch each of you in the face :)
    kthxbaii
  • i agree with you :)

    Y arent u in the DEV team of CF???
    They should hire ppl like you instead.
  • ConvicTime wrote: »
    if xm8 gets nerfed i will find where u guys live and personnaly punch each of you in the face :)
    kthxbaii

    For public games, it doesn't matter. For competitive play, instead of just nerfing it, don't allow it. Look at the WEM rules, they didn't allow it for a reason. To stop useless wall spammers in hopes of getting some good damage. Takes the fun out of competitive CF.
  • Without the wall bang, what's so special about the XM8?

    Horrible spray pattern, if you're not used to it, and insufficient power. A lot of users are now using ScarL, M12, AK-47 and M4 (or any variations of the originals). All of which have superior power/spray control to most guns. You probably know all of that though.

    If it is "nerfed" at all, it shouldn't be "nerfed" by much.

    Deal with the box spraying by avoiding boxes or anything you could be wall banged from. If you don't learn from the first time, you won't learn the second or third time. Which is probably why people want the "nerf".


    tl;dr: No. Then again, people would find something else to whine about, so why not?
  • Arcobalen0 wrote: »
    i agree with you :)

    Y arent u in the DEV team of CF???
    They should hire ppl like you instead.

    Tehehe, they can be bad, but believe me. Their engine knowledge is 100x better than mine.
  • Rivkin wrote: »
    For public games, it doesn't matter. For competitive play, instead of just nerfing it, don't allow it. Look at the WEM rules, they didn't allow it for a reason. To stop useless wall spammers in hopes of getting some good damage. Takes the fun out of competitive CF.

    now that, is agreeable :)
  • I somehow feel that this thread is directed to Delllz, hes always wallbanging with that damn xm8.
  • iPhoenixi wrote: »
    I how somehow feel that this thread is directed to Delllz, hes always wallbanging with that damn xm8.

    That's why I kicked him from Sunrise.


    *not*
  • I agree when people say that if you nerfed the wallbanging power of the XM8 then it wouldn't have very many users because the ScarL and other rifles are superior to it.
  • Rivkin wrote: »
    For public games, it doesn't matter. For competitive play, instead of just nerfing it, don't allow it. Look at the WEM rules, they didn't allow it for a reason. To stop useless wall spammers in hopes of getting some good damage. Takes the fun out of competitive CF.

    Where can I read the WEM rules?
  • I honestly dislike the xm8 strongly.
    It's just a scar lite that shots through a box.
    If it could be nerfed people would go back to the better guns in the game.
  • -1
    The point of XM8 is wallbangs and good dmg tho boxes.
  • Boxxybabe wrote: »
    -1
    The point of XM8 is wallbangs and good dmg tho boxes.

    This^^
    best statment in the thread.
  • Boxxybabe wrote: »
    -1
    The point of XM8 is wallbangs and good dmg tho boxes.

    Isn't real though.
  • Us3rK wrote: »
    As we all know, the wall damage of the XM8 is 100% efficient, like the MP5 and G36K.

    That makes an unfair advantage for all who use it. I'm tired of seeing people spamming a box with the XM8 just because they do know that it will take more damage than any other gun through wood.

    I'm an AK/AWM user, some people are M4 users, etc. M4 takes 9 HP through walls.

    Why this thread? I think the XM8 wall damage should be nerfed.

    I don't know how well community will react to this thread, but I would like you to share your opinion.


    Mehhh... I dunnoo...

    Scar Light has low recoil advantage
    XM8 has 100% box damage advantage
    AK47 has the biggest power + regular spray pattern advantage
    AWM is 1 hit 1 kill (minus legging) advantage
    M4 has fast rate of fire and yet still effective over long distance advantage
    M4-Custom has a completely silenced advantage


    My point is -

    There are lots of different guns, all better or worse for different situations. You may hate XM8ers spraying through boxes, but if you are an AK player, then people will hate you equally for putting to work an almost straight spray pattern with 35-38 bullets and 2-3 shots per kill?

    Ups n Downs, Swings n Roundabouts, a vicious circle mate.

    You have to work out you're opponent and adjust your game play to beat them, that's how crossfire is, it is not like Delta Force or other games were there is just one gun. The beauty of having varied weapons is that it gives people the opportunity to become specialists.

    Leave the XM8ers to guarding wooden areas and boxing people, it is a satisfying and skillful art. Leave the AKers for taking down rush opponents in close range, leave the snipers to play their picks, and the M4 players to be that driving force.

    It is what makes the game beautiful.

    Conclusion: XM8 should stay as it is.
  • ROC_aL wrote: »
    Mehhh... I dunnoo...

    Scar Light has low recoil advantage
    XM8 has 100% box damage advantage
    AK47 has the biggest power + regular spray pattern advantage
    AWM is 1 hit 1 kill (minus legging) advantage
    M4 has fast rate of fire and yet still effective over long distance advantage
    M4-Custom has a completely silenced advantage


    My point is -

    There are lots of different guns, all better or worse for different situations. You may hate XM8ers spraying through boxes, but if you are an AK player, then people will hate you equally for putting to work an almost straight spray pattern with 35-38 bullets and 2-3 shots per kill?

    Ups n Downs, Swings n Roundabouts, a vicious circle mate.

    You have to work out you're opponent and adjust your game play to beat them, that's how crossfire is, it is not like Delta Force or other games were there is just one gun. The beauty of having varied weapons is that it gives people the opportunity to become specialists.

    Leave the XM8ers to guarding wooden areas and boxing people, it is a satisfying and skillful art. Leave the AKers for taking down rush opponents in close range, leave the snipers to play their picks, and the M4 players to be that driving force.

    It is what makes the game beautiful.

    Conclusion: XM8 should stay as it is.

    QFT kktybb
  • ROC_aL wrote: »
    Mehhh... I dunnoo...

    Scar Light has low recoil advantage
    XM8 has 100% box damage advantage
    AK47 has the biggest power + regular spray pattern advantage
    AWM is 1 hit 1 kill (minus legging) advantage
    M4 has fast rate of fire and yet still effective over long distance advantage
    M4-Custom has a completely silenced advantage


    My point is -

    There are lots of different guns, all better or worse for different situations. You may hate XM8ers spraying through boxes, but if you are an AK player, then people will hate you equally for putting to work an almost straight spray pattern with 35-38 bullets and 2-3 shots per kill?

    Ups n Downs, Swings n Roundabouts, a vicious circle mate.

    You have to work out you're opponent and adjust your game play to beat them, that's how crossfire is, it is not like Delta Force or other games were there is just one gun. The beauty of having varied weapons is that it gives people the opportunity to become specialists.

    Leave the XM8ers to guarding wooden areas and boxing people, it is a satisfying and skillful art. Leave the AKers for taking down rush opponents in close range, leave the snipers to play their picks, and the M4 players to be that driving force.

    It is what makes the game beautiful.

    Conclusion: XM8 should stay as it is.

    exactly, i don't see why people complain so much, i use the xm8 for my team when we need it for certain strats/setups but i hate it because when you have nothing to spam through all the other commonly used competitive guns are better than it.

    I don't see how people can even begin to compare the scar-light and the xm8. The xm8 you can 3 round burst at MAXIMUM with decent accuracy, scar light you can burst 5+ bullets easily. I guarantee the majority of the players posting in this thread saying the xm8 is extremely easy would be outplayed by anyone from the 3 top teams in CF xm8 vs xm8. Sure you can get kills in scrims on bad players who don't realize after the 4th time they've been spammed to not run behind the same cover, but before you call it easy try using it successfully against a team thats better than you, i assure you it won't be nearly as easy.

    edit for spelling.
  • ROC_aL wrote: »
    Mehhh... I dunnoo...

    Scar Light has low recoil advantage
    XM8 has 100% box damage advantage
    AK47 has the biggest power + regular spray pattern advantage
    AWM is 1 hit 1 kill (minus legging) advantage
    M4 has fast rate of fire and yet still effective over long distance advantage
    M4-Custom has a completely silenced advantage


    My point is -

    There are lots of different guns, all better or worse for different situations. You may hate XM8ers spraying through boxes, but if you are an AK player, then people will hate you equally for putting to work an almost straight spray pattern with 35-38 bullets and 2-3 shots per kill?

    Ups n Downs, Swings n Roundabouts, a vicious circle mate.

    You have to work out you're opponent and adjust your game play to beat them, that's how crossfire is, it is not like Delta Force or other games were there is just one gun. The beauty of having varied weapons is that it gives people the opportunity to become specialists.

    Leave the XM8ers to guarding wooden areas and boxing people, it is a satisfying and skillful art. Leave the AKers for taking down rush opponents in close range, leave the snipers to play their picks, and the M4 players to be that driving force.

    It is what makes the game beautiful.

    Conclusion: XM8 should stay as it is.

    you win my friend.
  • 0zz wrote: »
    exactly, i don't see why people complain so much, i use the xm8 for my team when we need it for certain strats/setups but i hate it because when you have nothing to spam through all the other commonly used competitive guns are better than it.

    I don't see how people can even begin to compare the scar-light and the xm8. The xm8 you can 3 round burst at MAXIMUM with decent accuracy, scar light you can burst 5+ bullets easily. I guarantee the majority of the players posting in this thread saying the xm8 is extremely easy would be outplayed by anyone from the 3 top teams in CF xm8 vs xm8. Sure you can get kills in scrims on bad players who don't realize after the 4th time they've been spammed to not run behind the same cover, but before you call it easy try using it successfully against a team thats better than you, i assure you it won't be nearly as easy.

    edit for spelling.
    Your avatar is gay...
  • I dont know if you guys noticed that the micro galil also has 100% wallbang. You guys prob dont cuz it is an unpopular gun. I noticed this after seeing Blindrob owned with it in PA2, then i bought it on my alt and i used it for a few days i think it a pretty good gun and it only take s a few shot to take out a guy with 100hp behind wall, i was shocked :D