Not kidding anymore...
OK the NEXT PATCH better have a nerf for the freaken M12 because someone just headshotted me all the way across the map train... 1 shot... FFS... DOES Z8GAMES NOT LOOK AT THERE OWN FORUMS? Seriously its getting extremely annoying and its beating out my AK-47 silver.. Im lighting him up but he tanks 2-3 shots since hes a freaken BR lagger with 230 ping... So the now those guns are freaken noob..... The people who own it don't want it nerfed... yet its a GP gun... they didn't pay for it... YET Z8games goes off and nerfs the freaken M4-Custom that people payed for and should have a great advantage over all the other guns because we payed are hard earned cash especially kids who don't get payed for doing chores or a weekly allowance like me Im totally broke i spent alot of my money on this game just for you to ruin it for me? It shows ohh i shouldn't buy anymore zp because there gonna nerf it anyway and im just wasting my money and time...
Honestly I still remember when I was totally noob picking up a m4-custom thinking i would never ever get one... it had 30/90 ammo I think it was on downtown... I was so good going from 1-0 to 7-0. 6K but i didn't know how to make videos at the time
. After that moment i knew i had to get it... I didn't headshot either. So which was great now i learn to headshot and stuff the gun is crap...
There nerfing the uneeded... The guns that need a nerf is Scar Light and M12... There nerfing... AK,M4-Custom,Xm8... Which is unnecessary ... Look. The charts in the game are false..
Look at these pictures...
How does a M12 beat a M4a1... Its a SMG not an assault rifle... something is wrong...

Look at the blue lines... Thats showing AKs power... yet Scar Light has way less recoil... but nearly as much power as a AK-47?

Scar light wins in just about everything that you want it good in besides automatic... Just a bit slower but the recoil is lower and the power is higher? Which makes no sense in physics... if a gun is powerful the recoil is high... Example: Ak-47 high high power.... High high recoil... Scar Light: high power. Low recoil... Suits everybody because high power low recoil great accuracy... NERF?

Ok so the M12 is supposed to be a SMG.. ALL SMGS in CF are supposed to have under 50% power... Compare it with P90,Mp5,Mp7,and uzi showen here.. The range is *******.. Yet this breaks every law of physics including power,distance,and recoil.

So z8games what is your move now? Just cause runescape is gonna release dungeoneering (Part2) in like a couple weeks your gonna say a slight delay so you can put the patch after that so people go to runescape then the patch comes out here everybody comes back? Yet if you released the patch now people will play and play when runecape releases people will leave? I mean its smart thinking, but people are getting pretty angry that this slight delay is going to a big problem. If you don't release it by next week i know people are gonna go crazy... I think it would be better if you didn't tell us that a patch was coming then the last few days you would tell us... :P So people aren't going crazy with anticipation... At least release like what 2 of the guns are? So some stress is release because I know people get stressed out when you hang something surprising in front of there face yet telling them its coming soon yet its been a while.Wow so all you give us is +10% exp for 2-4 days? You should give us like +15% exp till the patch is released... so people have something good and there leveling up which satisfies? Idk your move your choice.
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OPINIONS? No flaming please im already stressed out and in the mood to flame somebody... If your not gonna say anything good don't type anything and just leave. FYI don't put... "Rage thread" Because this is like the boston tea party. I'm going up in a nice way im not screaming making a thread saying... "NERF M12!!! FFS!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! NERF THE MOTHER F**KING LIVING SH*T OUT OF IT!!. No i state my facts and reasons why... I just make a strong statement.
Honestly I still remember when I was totally noob picking up a m4-custom thinking i would never ever get one... it had 30/90 ammo I think it was on downtown... I was so good going from 1-0 to 7-0. 6K but i didn't know how to make videos at the time
There nerfing the uneeded... The guns that need a nerf is Scar Light and M12... There nerfing... AK,M4-Custom,Xm8... Which is unnecessary ... Look. The charts in the game are false..
Look at these pictures...
How does a M12 beat a M4a1... Its a SMG not an assault rifle... something is wrong...

Look at the blue lines... Thats showing AKs power... yet Scar Light has way less recoil... but nearly as much power as a AK-47?

Scar light wins in just about everything that you want it good in besides automatic... Just a bit slower but the recoil is lower and the power is higher? Which makes no sense in physics... if a gun is powerful the recoil is high... Example: Ak-47 high high power.... High high recoil... Scar Light: high power. Low recoil... Suits everybody because high power low recoil great accuracy... NERF?

Ok so the M12 is supposed to be a SMG.. ALL SMGS in CF are supposed to have under 50% power... Compare it with P90,Mp5,Mp7,and uzi showen here.. The range is *******.. Yet this breaks every law of physics including power,distance,and recoil.

So z8games what is your move now? Just cause runescape is gonna release dungeoneering (Part2) in like a couple weeks your gonna say a slight delay so you can put the patch after that so people go to runescape then the patch comes out here everybody comes back? Yet if you released the patch now people will play and play when runecape releases people will leave? I mean its smart thinking, but people are getting pretty angry that this slight delay is going to a big problem. If you don't release it by next week i know people are gonna go crazy... I think it would be better if you didn't tell us that a patch was coming then the last few days you would tell us... :P So people aren't going crazy with anticipation... At least release like what 2 of the guns are? So some stress is release because I know people get stressed out when you hang something surprising in front of there face yet telling them its coming soon yet its been a while.Wow so all you give us is +10% exp for 2-4 days? You should give us like +15% exp till the patch is released... so people have something good and there leveling up which satisfies? Idk your move your choice.
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OPINIONS? No flaming please im already stressed out and in the mood to flame somebody... If your not gonna say anything good don't type anything and just leave. FYI don't put... "Rage thread" Because this is like the boston tea party. I'm going up in a nice way im not screaming making a thread saying... "NERF M12!!! FFS!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! NERF THE MOTHER F**KING LIVING SH*T OUT OF IT!!. No i state my facts and reasons why... I just make a strong statement.
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ok sir, since you asked for it , sir, i ll be as gentle and polite as possible.
if you don´t sir, please perform your QQing elswhere. kindly get some aim, it s very much possible to overcome an m12 user. i did so yesterday. owning the m12 nub with my deagle camo until he ragequit. put the time you waste making threads like this into practice so an m12 is no problem anymore. -
The M12s and ScarL need to be nerfed its obvious..ok sir, since you asked for it , sir, i ll be as gentle and polite as possible.
if you don´t sir, please perform your QQing elswhere. kindly get some aim, it s very much possible to overcome an m12 user. i did so yesterday. owning the m12 nub with my deagle camo until he ragequit. put the time you waste making threads like this into practice so an m12 is no problem anymore.
Go brag elsewhere -
do you people QQ in real life as much? pathetic.
are you such a troll in real life? pathetic.
ontopic: i agree 100% m12 is just wrong.. im in fortress and 5/6 of the time when i walk out of my base i get killed from the m12 on the roof.. most of the time it isnt even a headshot! like really.. -
As much as i love to read before posting, Your wording upon the M12s surprises me. What's so hard about saying, Lower the Damage of the M12s? Perhaps that wasn't what you were meaning, but You get my point.
-Lower Damage
-Accuracy's fine
-Impact of gun should still let you move.
-Magazine Size should be fine. SMGs = Low-Med. Dmg, High Mag size, average aim. -
are you such a troll in real life? pathetic.
ontopic: i agree 100% m12 is just wrong.. im in fortress and 5/6 of the time when i walk out of my base i get killed from the m12 on the roof.. most of the time it isnt even a headshot! like really..
holding myself back on here.
alot of tears. -
ok sir, since you asked for it , sir, i ll be as gentle and polite as possible.
if you don´t sir, please perform your QQing elswhere. kindly get some aim, it s very much possible to overcome an m12 user. i did so yesterday. owning the m12 nub with my deagle camo until he ragequit. put the time you waste making threads like this into practice so an m12 is no problem anymore.
Ok ma'm ill make it as gentle as possible ma'm.
STOP BRAGGING Ma'm... now m'am if you say the M12 is fine have you ever got killed by one ma'm? Obviously you haven't enough... so quit your bragging and im not QQing im putting in a solid statement in mine/other opinions. -
justininin wrote: »Ok ma'm ill make it as gentle as possible ma'm.
STOP BRAGGING Ma'm... now m'am if you say the M12 is fine have you ever got killed by one ma'm? Obviously you haven't enough... so quit your bragging and im not QQing im putting in a solid statement in mine/other opinions.
as everyone else i get killed alot by an m12. it motivates me. then i try harder, offer less target, peak around corners faster, move more.... -
whatever you guys desire, i hope, in your interest, that it will come true.
just don´t make so many threads about the same stuff again and again..
Oh...so you're not against this at all? You're just tired of all the threads? Cant argue with that
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I don't think the m12 needs a nerf. I realize the m12 is a sub-machine gun. So, that being said the guy who says he died without receiving a headshot hear me out. Although a sub-machine gun doesn't typically have power. It can spray the hell out of something with little recoil. That's the purpose of a sub-machine gun. Now if anything needs to have adjustments made it's the mp7. In real life the mp7 has high accuracy and has alot of penetration. Not power but penetration. It can shoot through kevlar helmets from quite a distance away. Which the only way to compensate for that on a game is to give it more power.
Now onto the topic of Ak47 vs. Scar Light-The scar light should have high accuracy as well as less power that the AK. Scar Light 5.56 ammo vs. AK47 7.62. However if you have ever shot an AK they are crap in accuracy and when sprayed have quite a bit of ammo. The scar light since it uses a smaller cartridge does have that much recoil. Thus, making it accurate which is exactly what the military wanted it to do. Shoot a 3-5 round burst and all be near target. Now if I take a scar light and you take an AK47 and we stand five feet from each other you are going to win. Which is exactly what happens in game.
I am not trying to make you mad I am just offering points that maybe the dev's use when they are making weapons for this game. -
L0LSmilyFace wrote: »Oh...so you're not against this at all? You're just tired of all the threads? Cant argue with that

of course its frustrating if you get sprayed down by a guy without aim at all. but whenever that happened and i tried harder and really focused i found a way so..
thinking logical here... if the m4 custom got nerfed then the m12 is more than ready..
i could still live on if it wont get nerfed, which i think it will sooner or later -
I don't know, I mean yeah I can understand dying to it, but its when you have an ak and you unload on them close range and they kill you by spraying in the chest region. Its just not right....but I suppose thats more of a ping issue...
And yeah the MP7 needs to ignore armor, and do 100% though boxes, IMO
OT:The M12 needs less power and more recoil...
The ScarL to me is just fine, maybe have the bullet spread a bit wider, and a tad more recoil... and thats it, but then again thats just me. -
it ****es me off....as everyone else i get killed alot by an m12. it motivates me. then i try harder, offer less target, peak around corners faster, move more....
hes right.L0LSmilyFace wrote: »You cant deny its OP. You cant deny it needs a nerf. We dont give a fook if you can beat them, we just want it nerfed. It ruins the fun out of any game mode.
yea its a ping issue because of brazilians!SigmaMunzta wrote: »I don't know, I mean yeah I can understand dying to it, but its when you have an ak and you unload on them close range and they kill you by spraying in the chest region. Its just not right....but I suppose thats more of a ping issue...
And yeah the MP7 needs to ignore armor, and do 100% though boxes, IMO
OT:The M12 needs less power and more recoil...
The ScarL to me is just fine, maybe have the bullet spread a bit wider, and a tad more recoil... and thats it, but then again thats just me.
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