please nerf the m12!!!
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correction: it was ME that said i sold the gun cuz it was OP
Yeah, I realized that while I was taking a wiz in the bathroom, oddly enough...-_-
Oh, and by "good rifle" do you mean....hmm, I dunno.
S-L (still op)?
No, I already have a "good rifle". I already said I use Breatta...
Not only that, the XM8 I'm currently using is what's keeping me going up towards a 2.1 and what not.
Of course I had to run into a Em game where some butt muncher was AK-47 aimbotting...wiping out my whole team ALONE 10 rounds in a row with nothing but HS's...ruined my KDR for the day, and dropped my % by about 0.20%... -
HeadWound13 wrote: »I only hate on AWMers because they use their teammates for cannon fodder so they can get into position for free long range kills.
And then they tend to be the 1st group of people who start QQin when someone rushes them and splats them to the ground...
SMG >= SNIPERS > RIFLES > SMGs
( >= greater than or Equal to...although that 'equal' isn't even close. They'd not nerf any SMG's based on the fact that the gun it NOT that accurate and you still have to be close enough to your target to totally wipe them anyway...)
dude, at close range m12 is better than ak due to the ultra fast rate of fire, before the guy with and ak shoots 3 killing bullets, you're done with your clip and moving on to the next target. the damage is way too high, it really needs to get nerfed. any noob can use it and do good in games, i see people topfragging with the m12 ALL THE TIME. i don't know where you play 'boy' -
HeadWound13 wrote: »Woot woot...
But still, you don't see a ton of m12s users Aceing matches...what everyone in this thread is REALLY complaining about is the amount of noobs running around with one...not how powerful it is. And trying to call me a noob for picking a weapon, liking it, and keeping it is just plain immature...I can use what ever gun I please, and like I said, I bet even if the nerf it TWICE, I'd still be blasting the junk outta people.
And I love how this other person is trying to call me a noob and crap without taking into mind that I use other weapons...
My ENTIRE CF history of weapons...
(In order)
Scar-H
K-2
Type89
QBZ
S-L
m12s
M4A1
Breatta
You can't just waltz into the game and pick up a weapon that sprays like the m12 and get kills...the other user HAS to be doing something wrong...
So UltraSuckyis, you can kiss my ass. You 'sold' it because it was OP? HA! MY ASS! Yous old it because people kept calling you a noob and you started crying, THAT'S what happened. You'd be in that group of people who used the Scar-Light and were defending it before it got nerfed and then jumped the bandwagon so you wouldn't have to deal with the backlash. I'm not selling my weapon just because you want to cry about me or someone else killing you with it...grow the frick up.
Cry cry cry all you want, your still going to get killed by them...just like everyone else who had to deal with the S-L.
uhm, i never bought it, sh ow me where i said that, so stfu
and the only guns u have is beretta,m4,and m12s, and i bet the only wep u use is m12s
get good kid -
I agree the M12s is overpowered, high power, light weight, high fire rate, fast reload, high accuracy and almost no recoil. if you dont all that OP than i dont know.
the first time i used it was in Castle S&D right after i bought it 1st match ended with 18/1 score i mean thats just OP. I own many guns but the M12s is by far the easiest gun to kill some one with -
SkilledOne wrote: »I agree the M12s is overpowered, high power, light weight, high fire rate, fast reload, high accuracy and almost no recoil. if you dont all that OP than i dont know.
the first time i used it was in Castle S&D right after i bought it 1st match ended with 18/1 score i mean thats just OP. I own many guns but the M12s is by far the easiest gun to kill some one with
Or your' just lucky....that never equates to people because they'd rather feel that they have tons of skill and luck is not what's influencing their kills...
Sure, first match I played with my m12s (Train), I was plastering people left and right (can't remember the score though...something like 20/9 or something), but I still wasn't dominating any rifle users without some effort of GETTING TO THEM without getting shot up first.
Either way, what's ONE powerful SMG going to do...can't out dmg AK, can't out range EITHER of the Scars, and it sure ass hell isn't a 100 dmg sniper rifle. It's almost odd the way people jumped on the m12s haters club...because before they were QQing about the m12s it was the MP5.......................... -
HeadWound13 wrote: »Or your' just lucky....that never equates to people because they'd rather feel that they have tons of skill and luck is not what's influencing their kills...
Sure, first match I played with my m12s (Train), I was plastering people left and right (can't remember the score though...something like 20/9 or something), but I still wasn't dominating any rifle users without some effort of GETTING TO THEM without getting shot up first.
Either way, what's ONE powerful SMG going to do...can't out dmg AK, can't out range EITHER of the Scars, and it sure ass hell isn't a 100 dmg sniper rifle. It's almost odd the way people jumped on the m12s haters club...because before they were QQing about the m12s it was the MP5..........................
ure just pathetic, id like to see u use an ak, and even mods/ex mods say m12s is for trash kids
/M12s is a noob gun end of thread -
HeadWound13 wrote: »Or your' just lucky....that never equates to people because they'd rather feel that they have tons of skill and luck is not what's influencing their kills...
Sure, first match I played with my m12s (Train), I was plastering people left and right (can't remember the score though...something like 20/9 or something), but I still wasn't dominating any rifle users without some effort of GETTING TO THEM without getting shot up first.
Either way, what's ONE powerful SMG going to do...can't out dmg AK, can't out range EITHER of the Scars, and it sure ass hell isn't a 100 dmg sniper rifle. It's almost odd the way people jumped on the m12s haters club...because before they were QQing about the m12s it was the MP5..........................
correction: you're bad if you went 20/9 with m12, it CAN out dmg AK at close range due to its rly fast rate of fire and therefore a higher chance of a headshot when spraying, its not a 100 dmg sniper rifle but the rate of fire completely screws over any sniper, it can outrange the scars as it does not lose enough dmg over distance. god ur stupid man, noone ever QQd about the mp5, maybe it was just you -
correction: you're bad if you went 20/9 with m12, it CAN out dmg AK at close range due to its rly fast rate of fire and therefore a higher chance of a headshot when spraying, its not a 100 dmg sniper rifle but the rate of fire completely screws over any sniper, it can outrange the scars as it does not lose enough dmg over distance. god ur stupid man, noone ever QQd about the mp5, maybe it was just you
its funny how he makes fun of ppl for protecting sl when hes protecting the even noobier m12s -
UltraSuckyis wrote: »the only time ive ever used m12s, i got around 40 kills b4 i died
tell me thats not OP
No, it's exaggeration...maybe.
I got 60 kills with the XM8. Yesterday. (Noobs mostly...-_-. And yes, I have screens)
I get 20 - 50+ Kills the the m12s.
I got 42 or so kills with the M4A1.
Never got more then 10 kills in a match with a sniper (don't own one, and people always take them in EM)...
It always depends on the user of the gun, and the person dying. Not everyone who's Staff Sergent SHOULD be Sgt...but you'll kill them as if they are still Rookie level. Same goes with alot of Master Sergents as well. Hell, you could have got someone on a bad day. You don't even want to know how may days I had where I was getting 14/12 or similar KD's with the m12s...
Situations change. Day 1, no one knew what to expect with that weapon. Day 30, people started figuring it out. Day 130, m12s users with no skill don't get kills as often ANYWAY, because now people know how to deal with them...you don't see m12s noob rushing up A pathway on Downtown or EE anymore because they always get moved down by a sniper with someone covering them.
All I have to say is I HIGHLY DOUBT they will nerf it, and even if they DO, I could care just a little less, seeing as I'm still going to get called a n00b, still going to be stealing ace because someone wasn't wearing Headphones and didn't hear me sneak up on them, and still going to get called a OPKer/hacker by haters who don't know how to play...but I'm still going to be dropping that weapon when a situation arises when I should use a rifle, still going to be door camping with ANY of my weapons, and STILL going to be pinpointing on ghosts who think I didn't see them from long range on Haken...
End of story. Haters gonna hate, noobs goona die, and the players with some skill are going to get the kills they need. -
FreakyDog29 wrote: »i hate it because everytime i get advantages of sniping someone, some m12 noob comes out of no where with an m12 and kills me with 2 shots if i'm not mistaken!! could someone please nerf the m12 down to the power of the k1a but a bit higher!!!
I dont want it nerfed.
Its so fun... If you nerf it, It will be like Galil.
Get a Deagle and Learn to Aim.
Fyi. I dont even have m12s. I used to. -
HeadWound13 wrote: »No, it's exaggeration...maybe.
I got 60 kills with the XM8. Yesterday. (Noobs mostly...-_-. And yes, I have screens)
I get 20 - 50+ Kills the the m12s.
I got 42 or so kills with the M4A1.
Never got more then 10 kills in a match with a sniper (don't own one, and people always take them in EM)...
It always depends on the user of the gun, and the person dying. Not everyone who's Staff Sergent SHOULD be Sgt...but you'll kill them as if they are still Rookie level. Same goes with alot of Master Sergents as well. Hell, you could have got someone on a bad day. You don't even want to know how may days I had where I was getting 14/12 or similar KD's with the m12s...
Situations change. Day 1, no one knew what to expect with that weapon. Day 30, people started figuring it out. Day 130, m12s users with no skill don't get kills as often ANYWAY, because now people know how to deal with them...you don't see m12s noob rushing up A pathway on Downtown or EE anymore because they always get moved down by a sniper with someone covering them.
All I have to say is I HIGHLY DOUBT they will nerf it, and even if they DO, I could care just a little less, seeing as I'm still going to get called a n00b, still going to be stealing ace because someone wasn't wearing Headphones and didn't hear me sneak up on them, and still going to get called a OPKer/hacker by haters who don't know how to play...but I'm still going to be dropping that weapon when a situation arises when I should use a rifle, still going to be door camping with ANY of my weapons, and STILL going to be pinpointing on ghosts who think I didn't see them from long range on Haken...
End of story. Haters gonna hate, noobs goona die, and the players with some skill are going to get the kills they need.
dude really, ur bad. nuff said. m12 is the easiest gun to use and pwn with in the entire game. anyone can do in pubs, show me a screenshot where you're doing good with a gun other than m12. -
xPikachu_x wrote: »I dont want it nerfed.
Its so fun... If you nerf it, It will be like Galil.
Get a Deagle and Learn to Aim.
Fyi. I dont even have m12s. I used to.
how's it fun if it takes no skill to use, just a bunch of wussies use it because they can't use any other gun to begin with. -
UltraSuckyis wrote: »its funny how he makes fun of ppl for protecting sl when hes protecting the even noobier m12s
No, what's funny is how I bet you were one of the people saying the same things I'm saying about the S-L before it got patched...
Tsk Tsk...
And it's not even like I've used the weapon recently...said it a billions times in this thread, I'm using the XM8 and K-2. Still getting the same amount of kills as I did with the m12.
Oh and even if they REMOVED the gun, I bet you all would still be complaining about it...that's how said you all are acting. -
how's it fun if it takes no skill to use, just a bunch of wussies use it because they can't use any other gun to begin with.
Skill is a subjective construct...just because a sniper thinks skill is being able to aim and a smg users thinks skill is being able to maneuver around the sniper or rush him into a position where he can't sniper under the pressure doesn't mean either of them are wrong.
And I can't counter snipe out of Downtown's A-Base window towards the sniper spot behind A site at GL spawn....but I can rush out and move up the stairway to get BEHIND the sniper, inducing them to cry about the m12 when it was their own stupid self who stayed in the exact same spot thinking that the m12 user was a damn noob and would continue to spray down that pathway when no bullets would be able to reach it anyway....>_> -
HeadWound13 wrote: »No, what's funny is how I bet you were one of the people saying the same things I'm saying about the S-L before it got patched...
Tsk Tsk...
And it's not even like I've used the weapon recently...said it a billions times in this thread, I'm using the XM8 and K-2. Still getting the same amount of kills as I did with the m12.
Oh and even if they REMOVED the gun, I bet you all would still be complaining about it...that's how said you all are acting.
every decent player that actually uses skil to operate a gun complains about it because it requires NO SKILL TO USE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??!! DOYOU ?? you're one of the dummest people on this forum, congratz -
Found another screeny where I went 57/10 with the XM8...
Sadly, it's escape mode... >__<;
Oh, and NO means NOTHING. If it was a NO SKILL GUN, all anyone would have to do is click to get a kill....>__>
Secondly, if a skill player is complaining about it, that means they HAVE NO SKILL. Ever hear of improvising? Problem Solving? If you can't find a way to defeat a player with any weapon in this game, then maybe you should go play CA, where all the weapons spray and only people who suck up to nexon get anything good.
Oh, and all of these 'pro' players who happen to be using ZP items...don't even get me started on how all of the Silver weapons 2 shot people... -
how's it fun if it takes no skill to use, just a bunch of wussies use it because they can't use any other gun to begin with.
For 1.
I love my M4-Custom.
2. AK-Scope is a Beast.
3. M12s is real easy to use. But its already got a High rank req.
4. I sold m12s cause theres way better guns out there that people who depend on the m12 will be screwed.
IMO: M4-C and AK-S are way deadlier.
M12s is another gun wussies want to cry about because its easy to use.
M4 is easy to use too, so lets all cry about that. -
xPikachu_x wrote: »For 1.
I love my M4-Custom.
2. AK-Scope is a Beast.
3. M12s is real easy to use. But its already got a High rank req.
4. I sold m12s cause theres way better guns out there that people who depend on the m12 will be screwed.
IMO: M4-C and AK-S are way deadlier.
M12s is another gun wussies want to cry about because its easy to use.
M4 is easy to use too, so lets all cry about that.
at least you have to aim with the m4 while the m12 you don't evn have to do that, by spraying you can take out half the opposing team, if they ever release an upgraded version of the m12, i'm gonna kill myself. -
you keep talking about your screens, post them so we can see. and i mean post screens from SND and not against smily faces please
Like I said, they hold no bearing.
1 was again noobs.
2 was in Escape mode...
That's not showing you diddly squat.
And the only other screens I have was of me in GM with 16/1 before I was kicked, one with the aimbotter who was 66/19 with the next nearest person having 34/31, and some screenshots of glitchers in MM...everything else is replays...One again, not worth diddly.
This is the closest to anything I have...me laying on the ground using my Breatta (on the ground...) with a score of 45/9...and being called a hacker. -__-
that's what i did, but when i realozed how OP it was, sold it and never picked it up again
Save us the trouble...>__>
You never even said what weapons you use, for 1. For 2, I'm starting to wonder what your Ping range is... -
Excludable wrote: »Don't diss Szymen.
Anyhow to the OP, yes m12 needs a bit nerfing to do.
For him to come in here and flame at someones opinion on not nerfing something, I say I'm OBLIGATED to diss him.
He's acting like his weapons are balanced...whatever weapons those may BE.
You can't walk into a topic such as this and call someone dumb because they don't see something your way...he get's his ass kicked by the m12s, but I don't....we have varying viewpoints, but he's acting like he's right straight out and flat...I even said that if they nerfed it he's be right back in this thread crying about it.
So, let it be nerfed...then no one will buy the SMGs because they all suck, everyone will get a scar light, then EVERYONE will be RIGHT back on the forum to complain about how it needs to be nerfed.....AGAIN. -_- -
at least you have to aim with the m4 while the m12 you don't evn have to do that, by spraying you can take out half the opposing team, if they ever release an upgraded version of the m12, i'm gonna kill myself.
I would hate it too if they upgraded it.
But it doesnt need nerfed.
We should Nerf Kriss too.
I see no prob with M12.
Its really just a fun gun.
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