Nerf M12 (Once Again)

yea u came here because of the title.. nerf the m12.. its GP.. people say WDF! just save GP and people who pay for good guns like Kriss and M4C wasted there money.. GP users have great guns... K2,Famas,AWM,MSG90,Tommy gun,QBZ,XM8, DSR-1.. seriously nerf more recoil or less power/Fire rate... Tell the devs to nerf it... the M12 is more than a SMG its a assualt rifle too.. it goes long range... No ones gonna purchase that much ZP anymore because of M12.. I dont think Z8wants to lose money right? NO! so change the M12 up seriously... Its making alot of ZP buyers mad that a GP gun can Defeat ZP guns...
Since when are SMG weapons suppose to be strong anyways? This has the same power of the M4, firing rate, reload, and weight of an uzi, big clip, and really cheap...

That's super over powered.
Hes right... SMGs are never supposed to be strong. There supposed to be fast and weak. He explains it all.. Why the guns is so rigged.... Ok z8games tell the devs or what? You start losing money because I know over like 10people who are gonna stop buying ZP because of M12 and Scar light minus well just make a new account and farm to save for it..
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  • Idedu wrote: »
    Bad thread is bad.

    Bad noob is bad... Yea im talkin to your ass.. i bet you own a M12... i have no doubt you do... stupid noob
  • Quick and simple

    M12 = damage 15 per shot, 80 for headshot.
    Scar light = everything stay the same, but follow the reality, amno becomes 20/80.
  • Quick and simple

    M12 = damage 15 per shot, 80 for headshot.
    Scar light = everything stay the same, but follow the reality, amno becomes 20/80.

    sure :P no like 12 pershot and 56 for headshot for M12 and Scar needs more recoil
  • You wish. There are eighteen of these threads. All this is is another. Now, please don't flame me because I don't like it when people repeat things over and over.
  • Go make an alt with M12s on it, I'll 1v1 you using your weapon of choice and win.
  • justininin wrote: »
    Its making alot of ZP buyers mad that a GP gun can Defeat ZP guns...


    LOL this is the best part. Headshot=win. GTFO.
  • BlindEagle wrote: »
    make m12 zp.

    the end

    Best idea EVER. Of all time.

    LOL this is the best part. Headshot=win. GTFO.

    You do know it's harder to aim when you're getting shot with 10 rounds a second aiming at your nuts?
  • Yeah too bad i won i kriss i shouda just buy the stupid m12...
  • I have an idea, quit complaining.

    Actually no, they aren't losing money. People will still buy other in-game items and your forgetting they also own Metin2 which is very popular.

    I don't have as many problems with the M12 as you seem to, you may just be a crappy player. I buy ZP but still use a GP weapon or two along with my ZP guns.

    The GP guns have to be good in order for the GP players to compete with the ZP players, thats just how the game works. If you can't compete with the GP players, just gtfo, we don't want to hear you cry.

    The only problem i have with the M12s and the SCAR Light is that they break the laws of physics. A gun isn't going to be that powerful with such a small amount of recoil. Thats the only part of the guns that needs fixing is the recoil. The SCAR Light should have recoil a little higher than the M4 and the M12s should have recoil of a K1 or K2.

    I've never been one to protect Z8, but they don't have to make this game free do they? They could have chosen to release it like MW2 or WoW even. And you don't have to play the game either. If your going to ride them or put them down because of the game they give you for FREE and TRY to make it better, then stfu and gtfo.

    "And that's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump
  • XAnaxeo wrote: »
    The only problem i have with the M12s and the SCAR Light is that they break the laws of physics. A gun isn't going to be that powerful with such a small amount of recoil. Thats the only part of the guns that needs fixing is the recoil. The SCAR Light should have recoil a little higher than the M4 and the M12s should have recoil of a K1 or K2.

    not to be rude, but no one care about "laws of physics". it's a game and not everything is supposed/should be realistic.
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    yet an other thread to complain about the m12s and potentially the scar light again.

    tired to repeat the same thing over and over for those whiner.

    you obviously have no clue about business ignorant.

    (to avoid future flaming post, i dont have scar light, m12s, thompson, kriss super v, etc.)
  • temp003 wrote: »
    not to be rude, but no one care about "laws of physics". it's a game and not everything is supposed/should be realistic.
    __________________________________________________

    yet an other thread to complain about the m12s and potentially the scar light again.

    tired to repeat the same thing over and over for those whiner.

    you obviously have no clue about business ignorant.

    (to avoid future flaming post, i dont have scar light, m12s, thompson, kriss super v, etc.)

    Sure. If only they were balanced like the M4 is. Then they would be correct guns.
  • Z8 and losing money are rarely used in the same sentence.
  • I am pretty sure Z8 is doing nothing but gaining money. They will make large sums of money off ZP now and will as well in the future regardless of what GP guns are in the game.
  • Yeah I don't think they lose money. They just make people mad. People waste a ton of money getting the Kriss then the M12s comes up. Z8 screwed them over just like with the AK-Knife crates.
  • Yeah I don't think they lose money. They just make people mad. People waste a ton of money getting the Kriss then the M12s comes up. Z8 screwed them over just like with the AK-Knife crates.

    The AK-Knife crates were an epic screwover, I spent all my hard earned coupons on it and then boom, its in a crate. WTF??
  • justininin wrote: »
    yea u came here because of the title.. nerf the m12.. its GP.. people say WDF! just save GP and people who pay for good guns like Kriss and M4C wasted there money.. GP users have great guns... K2,Famas,AWM,MSG90,Tommy gun,QBZ,XM8, DSR-1.. seriously nerf more recoil or less power/Fire rate... Tell the devs to nerf it... the M12 is more than a SMG its a assualt rifle too.. it goes long range... No ones gonna purchase that much ZP anymore because of M12.. I dont think Z8wants to lose money right? NO! so change the M12 up seriously... Its making alot of ZP buyers mad that a GP gun can Defeat ZP guns...
    Hes right... SMGs are never supposed to be strong. There supposed to be fast and weak. He explains it all.. Why the guns is so rigged.... Ok z8games tell the devs or what? You start losing money because I know over like 10people who are gonna stop buying ZP because of M12 and Scar light minus well just make a new account and farm to save for it..

    I Got M12/Scar Light, And More Guns And ZP GP Crate Guns. UMAD? No Nerfing Needed. When People Pay For A Gun... That Means They Like It As It Is. How Can You Nerf A Gun If Someone Already Got It And Likes The Way It Already Is? Like I Had Scar L I Liked It Pretty Good Gun (Not My Type Tho). I Liked It Like It Was, But They Nerfed It. There Shouldn't Be Any Nerfing -.-!
  • XAnaxeo wrote: »
    The AK-Knife crates were an epic screwover, I spent all my hard earned coupons on it and then boom, its in a crate. WTF??

    same thing happened with the permanent awm camo.. But now its the awm rd.. bad
  • I dont think the staff speaks english, cuz if they do, they would've nerfed it as soon as they had the chance.
  • Best idea EVER. Of all time.




    You do know it's harder to aim when you're getting shot with 10 rounds a second aiming at your nuts?


    I dont care if the gun goes to ZP but what does getting shot at 10 rounds a second have anything to do with ZP vs GP weapons?

    There are good GP weapons and if you(the plural you not singular you) can't compete with them you suck and should probably uninstall Crossfire.
  • i like how u took the time to write all dat :P
  • When you're talking about people's thing you say THEIR not THERE
  • Perez2395 wrote: »
    When you're talking about people's thing you say THEIR not THERE

    how come everyone on the internet cares about grammer more than they should, do u want to sound smart or something o.O or make the other kid feel dumb :P
  • BlindEagle wrote: »
    make m12 zp.

    the end
    yay! LOLZ remove them from GP players then -.-
    Best idea EVER. Of all time. yes




    You do know it's harder to aim when you're getting shot with 10 rounds a second aiming at your nuts?
    i know right. You can't even aim without them knocking you down
    XAnaxeo wrote: »
    Actually no, they aren't losing money. People will still buy other in-game items and your forgetting they also own Metin2 which is very popular.

    I don't have as many problems with the M12 as you seem to, you may just be a crappy player. I buy ZP but still use a GP weapon or two along with my ZP guns.

    The GP guns have to be good in order for the GP players to compete with the ZP players, thats just how the game works. If you can't compete with the GP players, just gtfo, we don't want to hear you cry.

    The only problem i have with the M12s and the SCAR Light is that they break the laws of physics. A gun isn't going to be that powerful with such a small amount of recoil. Thats the only part of the guns that needs fixing is the recoil. The SCAR Light should have recoil a little higher than the M4 and the M12s should have recoil of a K1 or K2.

    I've never been one to protect Z8, but they don't have to make this game free do they? They could have chosen to release it like MW2 or WoW even. And you don't have to play the game either. If your going to ride them or put them down because of the game they give you for FREE and TRY to make it better, then stfu and gtfo.

    "And that's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump
    Dude its a suggestions.. Also did you just say GP players have to be able to compete with Zp players? Are you serious... Xm8.. famas.. K-2... IF you use the gun right it will be good. You can't be good when someone drops you in 1.5seconds shoving only like 7-8bullets up your ass.... Dude the stupid thing is M12 is just to strong. They shoulda never nerfed any ZP gun ever. Why did they nerf kriss seriously that was stupid.
  • chemical91 wrote: »
    I Got M12/Scar Light, And More Guns And ZP GP Crate Guns. UMAD? No Nerfing Needed. When People Pay For A Gun... That Means They Like It As It Is. How Can You Nerf A Gun If Someone Already Got It And Likes The Way It Already Is? Like I Had Scar L I Liked It Pretty Good Gun (Not My Type Tho). I Liked It Like It Was, But They Nerfed It. There Shouldn't Be Any Nerfing -.-!

    Ok first of all. They nerfed AK-47,Kriss,M4a1-Custom. Now do you think its fair? See your a M12 and Scar Light owner... You don't want it nerf, but guess what the rest do. Dude the scar light is still the 2nd noobiest gun in game... They nerfed it.. BS.. its still nooby it takes no skill to spray and aim. You know I hate it when people put. UMAD it just annoys the hell outta me and your a beginner on here so i would shut up you have no word in this conversation.
  • Perez2395 wrote: »
    When you're talking about people's thing you say THEIR not THERE
    who cares about grammar as long as you know how to read it and its not like. c u ov der. Then its fine. ok...
    xNfz wrote: »
    I dont think the staff speaks english, cuz if they do, they would've nerfed it as soon as they had the chance.
    Yea i don't think so either. or they dont have a brain. Either one or the other. Also the devs might be really dumb...
    I dont care if the gun goes to ZP but what does getting shot at 10 rounds a second have anything to do with ZP vs GP weapons?

    There are good GP weapons and if you(the plural you not singular you) can't compete with them you suck and should probably uninstall Crossfire.
    Ok theres alot ZP vs GP weapons M12 vs Kriss.. M12... bs.. its GP you can get it in game... M4a1-Custom vs Scar light.. of course Scar light more power and less recoil... the accuracy is ok.
  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by L0LSmilyFace
    Since when are SMG weapons suppose to be strong anyways? This has the same power of the M4, firing rate, reload, and weight of an uzi, big clip, and really cheap...

    That's super over powered.

    M12s don't have the same power has M4A1. M4A1 is 35 dmg in chest, 21 in legs/arms and 20 in foot/hands. M12s is 24-28 dmg in chest, 16 legs/arms and 16 in foot/hands.

    Read my thread in the barracks/guides section for more info.
  • XAnaxeo wrote: »
    The AK-Knife crates were an epic screwover, I spent all my hard earned coupons on it and then boom, its in a crate. WTF??

    Correction!
    You paid for coupons.
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