Leaving game penalty removal. Sweet, I get to make threads again.
So N-E-Waiz this was up there in the sticky and I thought it deserved a fresh reposting so people could consider and comment on it.
The idea was removing the penalties from leaving rooms to counter-act hackers. If they don't get kicked everyone can just leave, keep their XP/GP and play somewhere else without having to wait for the round to end while dealing with some inane BS.
I'm going to list off the reasons this is a great idea:
Vote kicking, the lack of someone that hacks being kicked, the random game kicks or the random kicks from nubs would all become unimportant if this change goes into effect while keeping the kick-vote system and it's remote usefulness in effect.
All the random kicks from games, lag-outs, error messages or lack thereof and other BS reasons you don't get the points you should've earned from the game through no fault of your own because you dropped to server or desktop will be properly awarded, making everyone feel a little happier about the time they used and the games they just played.
Also no one would be able to have a really bad game and get kicked or leave and in exchange get away with not having that score reflected.
It would save everyone from all the whining nubs "Please kick me from game, I have to go." Who should just be leaving anyways, I mean that's the entire point of labeling it desertion, right?
It will also make those nubs feel better because they won't get that measly infraction on their info.
People that do hack could still be kicked from the games and not able to rejoin leaving the vote-kick system and it's possible usefulness still intact.
I think the penalty should also be removed from the vote-kick system too. That way everyone (and I know there's plenty of us) who gets kicked for whatever reason will also keep our points and scores instead of having done what amounts to nothing because some scrubs decided (for whatever their reasons) we shouldn't be there.
Aside from that who cares if hackers, glitchers. blockers or any other form of cheaters that are kicked do keep those scores, the point is to get them out and not have to play with them. There are plenty of times and games where they keep their unearned good scores anyways, with this system in place we can just leave them to those crappy games and go play somewhere else without them or kick them and just not have to deal with them anymore.
With this kind of system in place I doubt many people will have a problem with adding vote-kicks to FFA and MM.
In conclusion: Do it, ******s. It's the right move.
The idea was removing the penalties from leaving rooms to counter-act hackers. If they don't get kicked everyone can just leave, keep their XP/GP and play somewhere else without having to wait for the round to end while dealing with some inane BS.
I'm going to list off the reasons this is a great idea:
Vote kicking, the lack of someone that hacks being kicked, the random game kicks or the random kicks from nubs would all become unimportant if this change goes into effect while keeping the kick-vote system and it's remote usefulness in effect.
All the random kicks from games, lag-outs, error messages or lack thereof and other BS reasons you don't get the points you should've earned from the game through no fault of your own because you dropped to server or desktop will be properly awarded, making everyone feel a little happier about the time they used and the games they just played.
Also no one would be able to have a really bad game and get kicked or leave and in exchange get away with not having that score reflected.
It would save everyone from all the whining nubs "Please kick me from game, I have to go." Who should just be leaving anyways, I mean that's the entire point of labeling it desertion, right?
It will also make those nubs feel better because they won't get that measly infraction on their info.
People that do hack could still be kicked from the games and not able to rejoin leaving the vote-kick system and it's possible usefulness still intact.
I think the penalty should also be removed from the vote-kick system too. That way everyone (and I know there's plenty of us) who gets kicked for whatever reason will also keep our points and scores instead of having done what amounts to nothing because some scrubs decided (for whatever their reasons) we shouldn't be there.
Aside from that who cares if hackers, glitchers. blockers or any other form of cheaters that are kicked do keep those scores, the point is to get them out and not have to play with them. There are plenty of times and games where they keep their unearned good scores anyways, with this system in place we can just leave them to those crappy games and go play somewhere else without them or kick them and just not have to deal with them anymore.
With this kind of system in place I doubt many people will have a problem with adding vote-kicks to FFA and MM.
In conclusion: Do it, ******s. It's the right move.
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Shameless self bump. Because I feel this thread deserves it. >_<
Hey Dissident if you read or even check out this thread. I wanna fight you.
P.S.: What do you all think the light that will be revealed soon is? The light at the end of the tunnel that we will see the game fixed up? Or maybe they're gonna ban the BR's. Lulz. XD
It kinda looks like a crosshair. Maybe we get a cool new crosshair with a lighted reticle? n.n
Naw, in all seriousness my guess is just a new gameplay mode. It's about time they added something new that's completely useless and will also be filled with a ton of new problems before fixing the mistakes with their previously released content. -
I support this idea fully, although I would still be firmly against any kick system being implemented in FFA or MM even with this in place.
With that said and done, I'm also at the point now where it's obvious so many idiots voted "yes" to adding it, that I want it added to infuriate these same people for their severe short sightedness on the matter.PurityNDeath wrote: »Hey Dissident if you read or even check out this thread. I wanna fight you.
Haha you won't be fighting with me over this matter, I agree. And if you meant in game then I've not actually been playing that much recently with the walk through wall hackers, QQ'ers, kick vote noobs etc - I thought I deserved a rest:cool:
PS take a look at my thread lol
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=68546 -
UKDissident wrote: »I support this idea fully, although I would still be firmly against any kick system being implemented in FFA or MM even with this in place.
With that said and done, I'm also at the point now where it's obvious so many idiots voted "yes" to adding it, that I want it added to infuriate these same people for their severe short sightedness on the matter.
Haha you won't be fighting with me over this matter, I agree. And if you meant in game then I've not actually been playing that much recently with the walk through wall hackers, QQ'ers, kick vote noobs etc - I thought I deserved a rest:cool:
PS take a look at my thread lol
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=68546
Left a rather lengthy response... ;D
I understand your position but I don't fully agree with it. In FFA at least... I don't think I've ever seen a hacker there. I've been accused of hacking in FFA like 100 times but usually it's a pretty fair fight. Having kick votes there would just be a top-soldier kickfest I'm sure.
I do believe MM could have benefits from the kick system being added, however. I still see the occasional blockers and glitchers (One today in Excavate.) As soon as the whole team is suffering because of one person I think that'd be a pretty fast kick. There is the possibility of accidental abuse though. One map I was sure someone was glitching and at the end I watched the replay. They were just hiding off to the side not moving or shooting and everyone walked right by them, even me. What we could really use is the ability to spectate (Or a host who would hopefully be impartial at least to spectate the room) and make sure people aren't cheating.
Frankly the only times I've seen mutants join and tip off a soldier's location is when they're glitching somewhere. I'd hope that kind of fair attitude towards the sides could continue if they allowed dead mutants to spectate soldiers also. I mean... We're all soldiers and mutants in that round, helping one side win or the other doesn't help you if you're dead, just would **** everyone else off and kick you instead, heh.
Yeah, I meant in game. I've laid off a bit; more out of the worry that there's gonna be a lame wall-walking PoS in every round rather than actually seeing that many. I've seen total... About 10 in Alaska maps (4 in one round alone whom all voted together so they were unkickable) and like 2 in GM. Out of quite a few matches played. So so far it's not as rampant as I thought it would be. Maybe I just have too little faith that people actually want to have a fair fight.
At any rate all that stuff is fairly off topic from the main post but... What the hell, eh? ;D
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