Awm...underpowered?
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Did I say it should be realistic? I simply pointed out that the AWM was underpowered. I didn't say it should be upgraded though it would be nice.
so, what IS your point in posting this thread then?
Is it to tell us something obvious that most of us know already? or display your amazing ability to google facts about guns?
can you google a calculation to illustrate that 1 AWM bullet to the hand is an instant kill?
all these guns are underpowered compared to real life, but many of the 1 hit kills from the AWM are completely unrealistic, so compared to other guns in the game, it is very overpowered.
perhaps you could google me a thread from someone who has a point. -
How about you shut your mouth if you don't know what you talk about? Perhaps you could serve as my target for a test shot of an AWM in the arm? Of COURSE it's one shot kill, IRL that bullet would just tear your fu'cking arm off and send you flying allready dead from intense pain or dieing in the next 3 seconds from major blood loss and pain. God, why do people never use their damned head... Assuming they have one in the first place.TaintyGarlic wrote: »so, what IS your point in posting this thread then?
Is it to tell us something obvious that most of us know already? or display your amazing ability to google facts about guns?
can you google a calculation to illustrate that 1 AWM bullet to the hand is an instant kill?
all these guns are underpowered compared to real life, but many of the 1 hit kills from the AWM are completely unrealistic, so compared to other guns in the game, it is very overpowered.
perhaps you could google me a thread from someone who has a point. -
True. And a HS is a HS, unless the dude has two brains or none, surviving a shot to the head isn't really possible.lol and an m700 hs through box does only 70 but an xm8=full wallbang wdf?
i rlly think all snipers should have full dmg through boxes after all they r the most powerful guns no? -
lol and an m700 hs through box does only 70 but an xm8=full wallbang wdf?
i rlly think all snipers should have full dmg through boxes after all they r the most powerful guns no?
Irrelevant wallbang is irrelevant.
I like to think of this whenever someone says wallbang. -
Box damage shouldn't really be 100% on anything anyway. I consider them as a wall, getting damage through them shouldn't be relied upon.
If you're looking at underpowered in terms of real life comparison, AWM won't be the first consideration.
If I shoot you in the femoral artery in your leg, you should die. You get 20 damage from a rifle instead.
You just don't compare a game to real life - shoot their heart, they should be dead, shoot their hand, how are they holding their gun?
FFS. It's a great weapon already. Not underpowered in terms of how it should be used. -
As far as gameplay goes, I can see either side. Lumic makes great points ITT. If Z8 decides to make it 100% through boxes, I wouldn't mind. Personally, I think sniper rifles should be 100% through them (nothing else should be). AWM is definitely good as it is, though.
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Now I know I'm sure I'll be flamed many times in this thread, but it needs to be said. Simply put the AWM as it is, is far underpowered to its realistic counterpart. Currently In-game getting shot with an AWM will do 50 or so damage through a box in a chest shot from a medium-short distance.
In real life an AWM depending on the model can achieve somewhere around 65,000 PSI of velocity in the firing chamber. Recalculated into bullet velocity that is about 3000 Ft. a second. An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars. It fires a .50 caliber round. The cartridge length being around 3.6 in. the width of the boxes in game would only be about 2.5 to 3 feet in width. Most of the boxes such as the ones covering the tunnel in Downtown arent of a sturdy construction.
So let's summarize this.
.50 caliber able to blast armored cars and light armored tanks.
3,000 feet a second.
A box 2 feet wide.
How exactly are these boxes slowing the bullets down enough to prevent a box kill?
"An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars."
You do realize that most bullets have a minimum of 500 miles per hour...and cars travel 60 mph...
oh and, realism? people usually get killed by 1 bullet to the chest...not fricking 5 bullets...
and when people get shot..they tend to limp, not go around walking perfectly fine...
i really don't know what you are tyring to prove there... -
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blahblah2524 wrote: »"An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars."
You do realize that most bullets have a minimum of 500 miles per hour...and cars travel 60 mph...
oh and, realism? people usually get killed by 1 bullet to the chest...not fricking 5 bullets...
and when people get shot..they tend to limp, not go around walking perfectly fine...
i really don't know what you are tyring to prove there...
I meant aircrafts. Either way it's true most people would get killed easily from taking a single shot. But the game isn't mean't to be realistic. My point was this thread was in essence a reply to the person who was whining about the xm8 being nerfed to not do full damage through a wall. An awm could shoot a brick wall and STILL blow your head off. It is a game I didn't say it should be changed I merely pointed out that very little of the system is realistic so no one should whine about them changing the way a gun works. However if they were to change the game to be mildly realistic this game would get much more popular. I remember I think it was Ghost Recon when you got shot in the leg you limped. Shot in the arm? Your aim is blown to hell. Shot in the chest? If your not dead you might as well be. -
since when is the AWM a .50 cal sniper?
get your facts straight, it fires the .338 Lapua cartridge or 7.62X54mm (if it's the L96 British Army version).
I agree though, it's underpowered through boxes, should do 80-90 through a box with a chest shot
There are several variants on the AW rifle. I accidently wrote that down while looking at some other forms of it. The Aw50 to be specific. -
Nachomilez wrote: »ya its beast, in england the newspapers reported a member of the army sniped a taliban from 1.2 miles away with a arctic warfare magnum =S
It was a record kill shot with a sniper. 2 soldiers in 1 bullet from 1.5k yards. I may have been 1.2 miles but I read 1.5 thousand yards. (not positive) -
So let's summarize what we've learned here today.
1st: This game is not based upon realism.
2nd: The Arctic Warfare Magnum (AWM) does not fire .50 cal rounds.
3rd: The Cheytac M200 Intervention is the perfect sniping weapon ever made by man.
Well, I think that just about covers it. Tune in next time for more of "Silly Pointless Posts In Silly Pointless Threads". -
if we are going to make snipers more realistic. then the psg should be REAL semi-auto, as in fires as fast as you can click the mouse. and it should have alot less recoil.
ive actually fired a heckler & hoch PSG-1 at a gun show here in town. and let me tell you that thing was stable as f**k. (at least i thought it was) and i could fire it as fast as a colt 9mm pistol accurately -
blahblah2524 wrote: »"An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars."
You do realize that most bullets have a minimum of 500 miles per hour...and cars travel 60 mph...
oh and, realism? people usually get killed by 1 bullet to the chest...not fricking 5 bullets...
and when people get shot..they tend to limp, not go around walking perfectly fine...
i really don't know what you are tyring to prove there...
He was proving a point about the AWM's wallbang power.
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irrelevancy much. -
Now I know I'm sure I'll be flamed many times in this thread, but it needs to be said. Simply put the AWM as it is, is far underpowered to its realistic counterpart. Currently In-game getting shot with an AWM will do 50 or so damage through a box in a chest shot from a medium-short distance.
In real life an AWM depending on the model can achieve somewhere around 65,000 PSI of velocity in the firing chamber. Recalculated into bullet velocity that is about 3000 Ft. a second. An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars. It fires a .50 caliber round. The cartridge length being around 3.6 in. the width of the boxes in game would only be about 2.5 to 3 feet in width. Most of the boxes such as the ones covering the tunnel in Downtown arent of a sturdy construction.
So let's summarize this.
.50 caliber able to blast armored cars and light armored tanks.
3,000 feet a second.
A box 2 feet wide.
How exactly are these boxes slowing the bullets down enough to prevent a box kill?
The AWM in this game doesn't use a .50 cal. It uses a magnum cartridge I believe. -
Now I know I'm sure I'll be flamed many times in this thread, but it needs to be said. Simply put the AWM as it is, is far underpowered to its realistic counterpart. Currently In-game getting shot with an AWM will do 50 or so damage through a box in a chest shot from a medium-short distance.
In real life an AWM depending on the model can achieve somewhere around 65,000 PSI of velocity in the firing chamber. Recalculated into bullet velocity that is about 3000 Ft. a second. An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars. It fires a .50 caliber round. The cartridge length being around 3.6 in. the width of the boxes in game would only be about 2.5 to 3 feet in width. Most of the boxes such as the ones covering the tunnel in Downtown arent of a sturdy construction.
So let's summarize this.
.50 caliber able to blast armored cars and light armored tanks.
3,000 feet a second.
A box 2 feet wide.
How exactly are these boxes slowing the bullets down enough to prevent a box kill?An AWM does NOT fire .50 caliber rounds, but either .308 Winchesters or .338 Lapua Magnums, depending on its configuration. So your entire theory just fell apart.
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Now I know I'm sure I'll be flamed many times in this thread, but it needs to be said. Simply put the AWM as it is, is far underpowered to its realistic counterpart. Currently In-game getting shot with an AWM will do 50 or so damage through a box in a chest shot from a medium-short distance.
In real life an AWM depending on the model can achieve somewhere around 65,000 PSI of velocity in the firing chamber. Recalculated into bullet velocity that is about 3000 Ft. a second. An AWM's bullets are as fast/faster than cars. It fires a .50 caliber round. The cartridge length being around 3.6 in. the width of the boxes in game would only be about 2.5 to 3 feet in width. Most of the boxes such as the ones covering the tunnel in Downtown arent of a sturdy construction.
So let's summarize this.
.50 caliber able to blast armored cars and light armored tanks.
3,000 feet a second.
A box 2 feet wide.
How exactly are these boxes slowing the bullets down enough to prevent a box kill?
what kind of cars do u drive?
3k feet a second.
thats 180k feet a minute.
thats 10800k feet an hour.
I dont think your car can drive as fast as this,except u built 2 rockets on each side of ur car.
anyways,ur right,but if it was a 1-hit-kill through boxes it would be overpowered.
to all those smart kids out there saying every weapon has been nerved.
if u shoot someone in the chest,he will probably not die immediately(depending on where u hit him),but will still survive.
yes he probably wouldnt fight anymore,but who knows?
I think crossfire(and every other FPS) thought that way and made the damage that way.
if every weapon was a 1 hit kill anywhere it would be really boring and would have nothing to do with skill anymore,just with a good connection. -
Comments made by you guys made me think of a web game, Battle Royale.
In the game, you get different amount of damage to your health point according to where you get hit, which is exactly like the agrument like "arm shot won't die".
Then, there are other questions.
How can you hold the gun with arm injury?
How the hell you can't keep fighting just because ur legs/arms got a shot?
Are you telling me that HP should keep draining if any part of the body get hit?
Why don't we just grab a snipers and start spraying boxes? -
LolliRoger wrote: »An AWM does NOT fire .50 caliber rounds, but either .308 Winchesters or .338 Lapua Magnums, depending on its configuration. So your entire theory just fell apart.
-salutes you for not reading the other posts- I corrected myself. I was talking about the AW50 when I said .50 calibers. There are around 6-7 AW models. Including the Arctic Warfare Magnum. And the Arctic Warfare .50. Excuse me for making a small mistake. And it still does NOT disprove my theory. Even a .338 round will penetrate armor-plating if it's fired at those speeds. -
dasdasfsdaf wrote: »what kind of cars do u drive?
3k feet a second.
thats 180k feet a minute.
thats 10800k feet an hour.
I dont think your car can drive as fast as this,except u built 2 rockets on each side of ur car.
anyways,ur right,but if it was a 1-hit-kill through boxes it would be overpowered.
to all those smart kids out there saying every weapon has been nerved.
if u shoot someone in the chest,he will probably not die immediately(depending on where u hit him),but will still survive.
yes he probably wouldnt fight anymore,but who knows?
I think crossfire(and every other FPS) thought that way and made the damage that way.
if every weapon was a 1 hit kill anywhere it would be really boring and would have nothing to do with skill anymore,just with a good connection.
My god did anyone read the other posts?
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