Smart, aren't we?

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are we as smart as we think we are? Does the human race really know everything they claim to know?
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  • I'm confident that I've collected all the knowledge I've collected over the years.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I'm confident that I've collected all the knowledge I've collected over the years.

    Nuff said...
  • Some people are thinking they are smart only be being a bit older when their mind its obviously on a lower level.
  • "The Dumbest People on the Planet"
    Dr. Gerry Lower, Keystone, South Dakota

    OpEdNews.com


    In an interview with Britain's Mirror, Michael Moore referred to his American countrymen as "possibly the dumbest people on the planet ... in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug *****s" (Brian Reade, "The Awkward Conscience of a Nation," www.mirror.co.uk, November 3, 2003). Indeed, the gullibility of the American people in the face of Bush administration lies and coercion is is a central theme in Moore's critique.

    "We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing. National Geographic produced a survey which showed that 60 per cent of 18-25 year olds don't know where Great Britain is on a map. And 92 per cent of us don't own a passport ... We, the United States of America, are culpable in committing so many acts of terror and bloodshed that we had better get a clue about the culture of violence in which we have been active participants."

    The right wing response to Moore's criticism of the Bush administration has been predictably venomous and vengeful. Moore has been subjected to the wrath of the conservative press, right wing political groups (Move America Forward) and anti-Moore websites "dedicated to unearthing the truth behind the doublespeak and falsehood that spews from the mouth (and keyboard) of Michael Moore" (www.moorewatch.com).

    Of course, the conservative electorate who support Bush's self-righteous religious capitalism do not appreciate being referred to as the "dumbest people on the planet." After all, they can also claim to be the most monied people on the planet and, if that isn't enough, the most militaristic people on the planet. Right wing corporate America has worked very hard to put itself into a position where it can buy and take what it wants.

    It is much more accurate, however, to say that the members of the conservative electorate are "the most ignorant people on the planet." Stupid is something that can befall people for lack of education and lack of opportunities to acquire a knowledge base appropriate to their talents. There is, of course, plenty of this in America today.

    Ignorance, however, is something people do to themselves, typically in the name of preserving some larger cause. In the case of the Republican right wing, empirical and historical ignorance is an outright necessity in preserving the corrupt, crony capitalism that has provided its followers with wealth and power and the ability to survive without contribution, typically at the expense of those who do contribute with time and labor and talent.

    No nation on earth has more ignored the values from which it was birthed than America under the Bush administration. The result is the greatest gap between rich and poor in human history, achieved by a nation birthed from the values of honesty, human rights, fairness and equality in the eyes of God. The result is the overt emergence of class warfare.

    If Americans were the stupidest people on the planet, then America would be in a good deal of trouble. Fortunately, self-imposed ignorance, as a state of mind, can be overcome very quickly in the face of honest information placed in historical context. Ignorance is only employed for convenience's sake or survival's sake in feigning allegiance to the powers that be. It is oftentimes only part of being loyal and obedient in the interest of maintaining personal employment.

    Moore's documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," goes a long way toward the elimination of self-imposed ignorance. Not being stupid but misled, the American people have been falling away from the Bush administration on their own volition. In "Fahrenheit 9/11," Moore places all the dubious actions of the Bush administration into chronological and historical context to provide a story from which the people can ascertain the despotic nature and direction of it all. In doing so, Moore's efforts clearly come from a higher source than that relied upon by the Bush administration.

    More worrisome than the state of mind of the American people is the state of mind of the Bush administration and its religious capitalistic followers, who continue to abide deceit and coercion, who continue to abide the Bush administration's religious folly and its resulting domestic and international failures.

    Psychosis can be defined as thoughts, words and actions that are devoid of reason. With this criterion, the Bush administration is the most psychotic administration in American history. Every issue is politicized and defined with spin, no issue is discussed openly with reference to empirical fact and historical or cultural context, every issue is decided on the basis of religious faith, i.e., you are with us or you are against America. This is religious self-righteousness personified.

    America's current dominion by religious capitalism has led only to the denigration of human rights and the values of democracy. It has emerged largely because Americans have, for the past half century, been coerced by the conservative right wing into turning the governance of American socio-economics over to the marketplace and America's corporate aristocracy. It has made everything in America stupid because virtually all decisions are made in preservation of an inherently corrupt marketplace. America has been sold a complete bill of goods in the name of "progress" measured in monetary terms.

    A greed-driven market place has determined that family farms and ranches and the communities they support are not fit to survive. A greed-driven marketplace has determined that mom and pop community businesses are not fit to survive. A greed-driven marketplace has determined that those without money deserve no or minimal access to health care and education. A greed-driven marketplace has determined how Americans make a monied mockery of the birth of their purported savior.

    Those who fail to see this remain under the influence of Adam Smith's "invisible hand." It is Smith's "invisible hand," that directs our lives from above. This euphemism for God's will is capricious and vindictive and ruthless and it exists because we allow it to exist for our failure to place upper limits on human greed and avarice. It exists because, while we have set disastrous lower limits to what people's lives are worth, we have set no upper limits at all. It exists because we do not define American socioeconomics under the values of democracy. We allow competitive, greed-driven socioeconomics to define us. It has done a terrible disservice to democracy since World War II, when America fell off the edge of human reality in service to Mammon.

    Its The Truth! XD
  • Nephire wrote: »
    Some people are thinking they are smart only be being a bit older when their mind its obviously on a lower level.

    Agreed .
  • Nephire wrote: »
    Some people are thinking they are smart only be being a bit older when their mind its obviously on a lower level.

    Congrats on the dumb post ; )
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    Congrats on the dumb post ; )

    As I said......
    They only think they're smarter .
    Congrats on the troll post! :P
  • Nephire wrote: »
    As I said......
    They only think they're smarter .
    Congrats on the troll post! :P

    No no, I'm not looking to fight ; ) Please explain how older people are on a lower level though, I'm all ears.
  • what i mean by this is, do we really know everything about ourselves?

    take this for example.
    giza_pyramids_cairo_268__6a_1293.jpg

    how was this bulit? Many scientists say that we can't even build that with modern technology, so how were the egyptians able to do it? But they were, this pyramid is proof. Knowledge, like an object, can be lost if it is not taught or written down.

    another example.

    saqsaywaman.jpg
    The Zig-Zag Wall of Saqsaywaman

    there is no mortar or cement holding these rocks together. These rocks are perfectly carved so they they have no space between them. You cannot wedge a knife between these rocks. We can't even do this with modern technology. Then how were the ancients able to do it.

    Simple, the knowledge was lost.
  • what i mean by this is, do we really know everything about ourselves?

    take this for example.
    giza_pyramids_cairo_268__6a_1293.jpg

    how was this bulit? Many scientists say that we can't even build that with modern technology, so how were the egyptians able to do it? But they were, this pyramid is proof. Knowledge, like an object, can be lost if it is not taught or written down.

    another example.

    saqsaywaman.jpg
    The Zig-Zag Wall of Saqsaywaman

    there is no mortar or cement holding these rocks together. These rocks are perfectly carved so they they have no space between them. You cannot wedge a knife between these rocks. We can't even do this with modern technology. Then how were the ancients able to do it.

    Simple, the knowledge was lost.

    LOTS and LOTS of slaves! And yes, we could do that with modern technology, it's just that concrete is faster and cheaper.
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    LOTS and LOTS of slaves!
    but how were they able to get the rocks up so high?
    how were they able to carve the rocks so perfectly?
  • what i mean by this is, do we really know everything about ourselves?

    take this for example.
    giza_pyramids_cairo_268__6a_1293.jpg

    how was this bulit? Many scientists say that we can't even build that with modern technology, so how were the egyptians able to do it? But they were, this pyramid is proof. Knowledge, like an object, can be lost if it is not taught or written down.

    another example.

    saqsaywaman.jpg
    The Zig-Zag Wall of Saqsaywaman

    there is no mortar or cement holding these rocks together. These rocks are perfectly carved so they they have no space between them. You cannot wedge a knife between these rocks. We can't even do this with modern technology. Then how were the ancients able to do it.

    Simple, the knowledge was lost.
    We could do it. It just takes patience and a respect for the art, which indeed has been lost over the years.
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    LOTS and LOTS of slaves! And yes, we could do that with modern technology, it's just that concrete is faster and cheaper.
    you really don't know anything about world history do you?
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    No no, I'm not looking to fight ; ) Please explain how older people are on a lower level though, I'm all ears.

    You just got me laughing so hard .
    If you're older doesn't means you know everything.
    Its all up to experience of life.
    Yes a 10 years old kid can know lot more about life than a 15 years old kid for example wanna know how?Depends on the family.How they teach them etc.
    Lets say we have a 10 years old kid.His parents send him to work or ask people on street for money.he has to get home an amount of money else he doesn't eat or gets hitted.
    The 15 years old kid comes form a rich family.He never did anything in his life cause his parents grew him up with everything he wanted and needed.
    This difference can be also made between a 10 years old and a 30 years old and its not only that.Depends on the way you think and not only about general knowledge/age.
  • all i know is that im really good at crossfire
  • but how were they able to get the rocks up so high?
    how were they able to carve the rocks so perfectly?

    The human brain is naturally very good at determining horizontal lines.

    And they used ramps and trees to roll the massive pieces of rock, and LOTS of slaves.
  • Knowledge Vs. Wisdom. Anyway we got plenty of brain power we don't use. So i say no we aint as smart as we think
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    The human brain is naturally very good at determining horizontal lines.

    And they used ramps and trees to roll the massive pieces of rock, and LOTS of slaves.

    Let me tell you something.
    Your brain is straight.
    Who knows what I wanna mean will understand.
  • Nephire wrote: »
    You just got me laughing so hard .
    If you're older doesn't means you know everything.
    Its all up to experience of life.
    Yes a 10 years old kid can know lot more about life than a 15 years old kid for example wanna know how?Depends on the family.How they teach them etc.
    Lets say we have a 10 years old kid.His parents send him to work or ask people on street for money.he has to get home an amout of money else he doesn't et or gets hitted.
    The 15 years old kid comes form a rich family.He never did anything in his life cause his parents grew him up with everything he wanted and needed.
    This difference can be also made between a 10 years old and a 30 years old and its not only that.Depends on the way you think and not only about general knowledge/age.

    Sure, I have plenty of life exp. I understand your point now, it just didn't come across so well in one line ; )
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    The human brain is naturally very good at determining horizontal lines.

    And they used ramps and trees to roll the massive pieces of rock, and LOTS of slaves.
    where are the ramps then?

    oh, and the human brain thing....

    nevermind, i don't want to waste my time with you. Have fun with your inability to think outside the box.
  • what i mean by this is, do we really know everything about ourselves?

    take this for example.
    giza_pyramids_cairo_268__6a_1293.jpg

    how was this bulit? Many scientists say that we can't even build that with modern technology, so how were the egyptians able to do it? But they were, this pyramid is proof. Knowledge, like an object, can be lost if it is not taught or written down.

    another example.

    saqsaywaman.jpg
    The Zig-Zag Wall of Saqsaywaman

    there is no mortar or cement holding these rocks together. These rocks are perfectly carved so they they have no space between them. You cannot wedge a knife between these rocks. We can't even do this with modern technology. Then how were the ancients able to do it.

    Simple, the knowledge was lost.

    Super glue, nuff said.
  • _Renamon_ wrote: »
    Super glue, nuff said.
    i knew someone would say that at one point or another lol
  • Some people don't understand how you can start a fire without a lighter, and you expect people to remember how to build massive world wonders?

    = =
  • where are the ramps then?

    oh, and the human brain thing....

    nevermind, i don't want to waste my time with you. Have fun with your inability to think outside the box.

    .. Umm it's proven fact that humans have a natural ability to determine horizontal lines. (carving stone into rectangles)

    This ability comes from the need for us to determine what direction we are facing in respect to the horizon.

    If you are going to say I can't think outside of the box, you better do something more impressive than talk like a hippie and post a picture of a pyramid.

    I'll bet you think the world is ending in 2012 as well.

    So, in conclusion, how to YOU think the pyramids were built?
  • Kahlann wrote: »
    Some people don't understand how you can start a fire without a lighter, and you expect people to remember how to build massive world wonders?

    = =
    exactly my point.

    Scientists only use the knowledge we have to solve problems. They need to search for the knowledge we used to know to solve problems we used to know how to solve.
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    .. Umm it's proven fact that humans have a natural ability to determine horizontal lines. (carving stone into rectangles)

    This ability comes from the need for us to determine what direction we are facing in respect to the horizon.

    If you are going to say I can't think outside of the box, you better do something more impressive than talk like a hippie and post a picture of a pyramid.
    show me the proof.

    and look, how were they able to carve those vertical lines? the diangonal lines? and all of them to fit so perfectly. Also, try to draw a perfectly straight line on a piece of paper without a ruler. You can't can you?
  • Kahlann wrote: »
    Some people don't understand how you can start a fire without a lighter, and you expect people to remember how to build massive world wonders?

    = =

    Bear Grylls showed me how last night, he's the man.
  • RELAXY wrote: »
    .. Umm it's proven fact that humans have a natural ability to determine horizontal lines. (carving stone into rectangles)

    This ability comes from the need for us to determine what direction we are facing in respect to the horizon.

    If you are going to say I can't think outside of the box, you better do something more impressive than talk like a hippie and post a picture of a pyramid.

    I'll bet you think the world is ending in 2012 as well.

    So, in conclusion, how to YOU think the pyramids were built?
    if you would get your head out of your ass, you'd know that i know the world is not ending in 2012, and that i don't know ho the pyramids were built. i just know that humans don't know how. every theory of how they were built has so many holes in t.
  • Actually we are nothing. We dont know anything about this world. We are like azns in a balloon that dont know what the hell is happening