European Pug Community

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Alright. The old thread was kind of cluttered, so I'll remake it.
Updated with some new rules and info.


This is the official thread for European PUGs, usually referred to as EU PUGs.
The name doesn't mean NA/SA players can't play - in fact anyone can. We have a ping limit of 150 though, to avoid the major issues involving ping.


PUGs are basically ten random players getting on a dedicated Ventrilo-server*¹, two players pick four players each, they join a channel each (Team A, Team B) - making it a 5vs5.
Clan belonging does not matter - but we advise against clan stacking. ANYONE can play.
The language to be used on the Ventrilo server is ENGLISH.
Exceptions can be made for teams solely consisting of the same nationality, but ONLY in that case.



Matches are played on UK server 3 channel 8. Room password should always be cfpug.
Format: Search and Destroy, 9 rounds, first person view.
Rejoin to respawn is not allowed. Meaning if you die, you are not allowed to leave and join instantly to revive within the same round. This will earn you a kick or ban as we see fit.



Items banned:
Flashgoggles
Armor
SPOP

Weapons banned:
M4A1-Custom
SCAR Light
M12s
Kriss
Shovel*³
Thompson
Special grenades (Heart/doll and any future variation). This does not apply to red smoke which is allowed.



Drafts are usually held on Saturdays at 21:00 GMT, as opposed to PUGs which are held whenever there is 10 players in the PUG waiting room (a channel on our Ventrilo server).
Drafts are not PUGs.
A draft is kind of a mini-tournament.
The format is similar to a PUG - players are put in a waiting room and then picked, forming a five-member team.
Then teams face each other as per usual in tournaments. This goes on for circa an hour, till theres two teams left who will play the final.



This is organized by several members*² of the Crossfire community.
FamousFoxx
Neof1tzx
AjkeN
RyanLJ
BaTseR
and dot.





*¹: Ventrilo info: vent12.gameservers.com 4208 pugstars
*²: XFire contact info: avr3x (FamousFoxx) dottage (dot) batser0 (BaTseR)
*³: Only applies to GM PUGs.
You can also contact us using the official EU PUG email: eupug@cfsociety.net



Discuss.
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Comments

  • banned that m12s =)
    i seriously hate that gun.

    Pug's are good if you dont want to play laggers/noobs with spop/skill lite or m12s or kriss or whatever. (largely what UK server is full of)
  • Winchester is allowed! I just need to win one now..
    And did you forget about Thompson or was it never banned?
  • Aenaes wrote: »
    Winchester is allowed! I just need to win one now..
    And did you forget about Thompson or was it never banned?
    Us3rK wrote: »
    Why ban the M60?

    RPK, RPK-c, M60, M60-adv and Winchester unbanned. Not sure why they were there.
    Go nuts.
  • Aenaes wrote: »
    Winchester is allowed! I just need to win one now..
    And did you forget about Thompson or was it never banned?

    i thought you already had winchester??
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Edit: RPK, RPK-c, M60, M60-adv, Winchester unbanned. Not sure why they were there.
    Go nuts.

    We made a mistake with typing the list stays how it stands now.
  • Why ban the shovel?
    It makes sense in a GM tourney, but it's quite arbitrary to ban a melee weapon in a SnD match. Someone please enlighten me :)
  • It technically only applies to GM, but I won't shed a tear if people remove it from their bags in S&D too.

    Making a special GM rule section just for a shovel is fugly.
    I will however clarify.
  • If you could get rid of cheating Romanians, that would be cool.
  • de_fUse wrote: »
    If you could get rid of cheating Romanians, that would be cool.
    If people screenshotted as asked, people would be less suspicious.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    If people screenshotted as asked, people would be less suspicious.

    SS for cheats? ROFLk.
    If your PUGs came with an anti-cheat it the thought wouldn't even come up.
  • Well the clan draft has been played , i had big dreams to finnaly show how good the European clans were but when we started the draft i had to get RINGERS for teams like iNexor and R.O.C. This is just a shame and a loss of respect that you cant just simple get 5 man together for a tournament , or just say you don't have 5 and i will get another team. Both these clans disappointed me very much.

    The Scores

    First Round.

    Paranoids vs tGaming : 23 - 22

    The closest match from the whole tournament , this match took 1 hour and 10/20 minutes ! which is very long. Neo got our polish friends with a 4k and a 3k and king got a doulbe AWM kill flashed wich was very impressive Cilo aka Devourz and Neofitzx have theres replays. Good job Paranoids and a very nice try for tGaming.

    Skk vs Airwalk : 7 - 18

    Skk was unlucky to fight against Airwalk right away they fought brave , if you want these replays you can speak to me ( Famous)

    Team USA vs iNexor : TIED ? SCORE : Tie breaker BW 5 Rounds 5-1 5-1


    This match was imbarrasing for iNexor they had to play with a ringer who accutaly carried them first half. With a inactive leader and no type of training iNexor is far from a good or even semi good clan if they can't beat a PUG team. But all the credits go to Treni who set up a very good team of ringers. ( Replays are lost)


    ARA Vs ROC : 5 - 17

    R.O.C also did not come with a s5 they only had Haschmuffin aka 99thc and now playing under the name " 2high2fly" They asked Zekko to be there ringer ( a known player from Exilum Ind) Well ARA just like Skk was unlucky to play against R.O.C the first round, but good try. Replays can be found at Haschmuffin



    Second Round

    ROC vs Team USA : 13 - 15

    Kennedi and fnick came on later in this clan draft so i told Haschmufin to play with R.O.C members. kennedi was drunk ! so it was basicly a 4v5 very disaspointing match from R.O.C
    Replays can be found at Haschmuffin


    Mean while since Airwalk had to wait so long till tGaming vs Paranoids to finish they played LifeLine the "best" NA clan in UK server they were a good match to LifeLine but even in UK server they lost with 3 rounds

    Airwalk Vs Paranoids : 18-11

    After the match with LifeLine Airwalk went straight ahead to play against Paranoids.
    Well Paranoids fought good but i think they gave up on the match after the first half since they thought they could not win from Airwalk anymore , well you CAN beat airwalk i assure you, next time i hope you do your best and try harder. Replays at Neo


    Finals

    Airwalk vs Team USA

    13 - 12

    After 3 tough matches for Airwalk i felt that there were kinda tired they barely managed to pull the win against Team USA with only 1 round against a PUG team again all the credits go to treni for putting a A-Class pug team up ( Treni , r0th , uMad , Ohpz, Klone )
    I even thought about DQ'ing Airwalk since Pistol smoke glitched atleast 3 teams on GR which is a shame for such a good team as Airwalk and they don't need it.
    Replays might be lost since i had to go middle of 2d half.

    Winner : Airwalk.


    Conclusion

    Well im not gonna avoid it this pug community or the Europe community is way behind the NA community or there competative level. if a PUG team can make it in the finals of a clan draft which has good players but no team work and on it way beats 2 of the "best" Euro clans which make a poor impression when not even having a 5 man team.
    Now some players of these teams will say " yo we did not had there s5" my answer to that is well you have 5 players in your clan who regular play with each other and should know some tactics. And when do you have your s5 ready to fight , R.O.C wanted to play against Airwalk so long since they were inactive last month now Airwalk is finnaly ready and R.O.C brings up 1 guy out of the s5 and a drunk player well okee. And for iNexor , which clan im in we barely play together or do anything together with a inactive leader who does not care for the game anymore and only playes world of warcraft i dont see this team becoming a top team

    So lets face the facts iNexor and R.O.C are both inactive clans and they dont stand a chance to any of the top NA teams. These clans only give something about ESL you might have heard from it well alot of players know my opinion on that league i will just say they allow the Scar Light and banned all the ZP weapons besides that they allow a clan to be inactive for a month.

    Europe should learn from this they need to improve to stand a chance against NA teams. The best clan in Europe is by far Airwalk after that i would say paranoids but if these clans will participate in the WOGL tourney , they will have a hard time coming to a top 10 or 20.
  • This really shows up the lack of good players/clans in UK server if Treni's USA team could pretty much draw with Airwalk-and they arent even in the same clan. If the Lifeline S5 showed up in UK server they'd still be owning everyone(especially ROC) with 100 ping. Pity about ROC and iNexor loosing active players and Ajken obviously has joined ROC which is one more good player lost for iNexor.
    When/If LL play ROC it will really show how bad the EU community is since the ''top EU clan'' will get destroyed by 100 pingers -.-
  • Airwalk vs SKK 18-7

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    Airwalk vs Paranoids 18-8

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    Airwalk vs Team USA 15-13

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    This are correct scores :D
  • Well these scores the players gave me dot will edit the post since i cant edit it anymore

    any chance on the LL screenshots / replays
  • de_fUse wrote: »
    SS for cheats? ROFLk.
    If your PUGs came with an anti-cheat it the thought wouldn't even come up.
    Not talking about cheats specifically, so much as a general disregard for rules.
  • GG to all teams was very funny the clan draft , but sad that we couldnt get our s5 , and famous i see some lies in ur first 3 sentences but nvm


    some ppl asked me for SS of the games here they are

    Ara vs ROC

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    Team usa vs ROC

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    maybe we see us in the next clan draft
  • haha kennedis score <3
    It was pretty much fun even tho I'm not in R.O.C
  • May I ask what a "Ringer" is?

    The whole scheme of things sounds interesting. AjkeN asked me if me and my clan would like to do some pugging too. We may have a look at it =)

    _uNknoWn*'s S5:

    _[K]oVa*
    _[C]rYsiS*
    odi90
    Jazzberry
    D0m4g0j

    Oh and I think Airwalk did fairly well against the "Team USA" which consisted of good players. Otherwise you are simply implying those players (such as bLitzd_), suck. I think not then.
  • A ringer is a person playing for a clan once-off. Like a substitute.

    And people aren't saying that "TeamUSA" are bad. It's just that the clans in the draft are seen as the best European clans, and are leading ESL. They should be able to beat a team who hasn't played together properly quite easily.
  • Sometimes it just comes down to the skill and quick-thinking of a single player.

    Thank you for the definition of a "Ringer".
  • Sorry to say But i find this European Kinda Weak.
    There's only 2 good clans airwalk And ROC.
  • epR_Goat wrote: »
    Sorry to say But i find this European Kinda Weak.
    There's only 2 good clans airwalk And ROC.
    Theres plenty of talented EU clans. Lots of great players coming back.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Theres plenty of talented EU clans. Lots of great players coming back.

    ye Amazing Good players Like Fridayy Who cant kill me when i got my knife out
  • epR_Goat wrote: »
    ye Amazing Good players Like Fridayy Who cant kill me when i got my knife out

    Friday? Nobody likes Fridayy.
  • Us3rK wrote: »
    Friday? Nobody likes Fridayy.

    i love him he is my 2on2 mate friday 4 life
  • epR_Goat wrote: »
    ye Amazing Good players Like Fridayy Who cant kill me when i got my knife out
    I was actually referring to eXilium.
    Not sure why I should care about you bringing out a knife in an S&D.
  • The EU community is pretty poor though,but hopefully it will get better with time. If some clans can settle down and get a good chemistry and strats going then it will be a LOT more competitive.

    Also,good luck to Influenz/famous/cilo etc clan. Looks good so far,hopefully they'll stay alive.
  • FamousFoxx wrote: »
    Well these scores the players gave me dot will edit the post since i cant edit it anymore

    any chance on the LL screenshots / replays

    http://www.xfire.com/profile/ethernalzz/screenshots/?view#97542367