way to fix the ping differences between continents
simple... this is so no one gets ban and no money is needed for a SA server .... really take this in consideration..
Make Alpha, Bravo, & UK Servers North American & European ONLY!!
that is reasonable, thats less servers for the NA and EU players, tho this game was made for NA and EU players lol
it seems very fair for both NA/EU & SA/AUS
That leaves Rookie, Delta, Foxtrot, Echo & Clan Servers for everyone else to use ... (Clan Servers will be need to be dealt with, maybe make another clan server just for people not in NA or EU)
Make Alpha, Bravo, & UK Servers North American & European ONLY!!
that is reasonable, thats less servers for the NA and EU players, tho this game was made for NA and EU players lol
it seems very fair for both NA/EU & SA/AUS
That leaves Rookie, Delta, Foxtrot, Echo & Clan Servers for everyone else to use ... (Clan Servers will be need to be dealt with, maybe make another clan server just for people not in NA or EU)
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Friends of mine and more have quit this game just bc of the ping issues and SA taking the game over... i love this game and always thought i would NEVER quit this game, i had hope.
i quit crossfire now, decided this a week ago. i do play every once in awhile but its just to play with a special someone.
i will not be playing this game exclusively, which means no more ZP will be bought by me, until the ping issues are changed... this is not a boycott what so ever, i just cant take the lack of reg do to laggers... i have 48ping .. and its not fair that this game is a NA/EU version of the game, but SA, with 180+ping, has taken over....
keep in mind, i dont mind SA playing the game... it would just be more enjoyable for both of us. so, the closest thing that can be done other than banning SA or setting up a SA server, since Z8/G4 will not go to them extremes like most other games have, is to make some servers NA/EU only and leave the rest for SA and whoever else -
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ALOT of people are complaining about this. And alot of people are quitting.
My main issue is not only with the high ping, but also with the high amount of glitchers and the BRs swearing over and over again everytime they die or for nothing at all.
There are a couple of ways to fix this problem.
#1 The most simple way, Ban them all :P
#2 Block any futher registration coming from S.A. Add the SSN verification method (or something similar) so then they can't bypass the system through IP masking. Then Ban any and all glitchers/hackers. This way only the ones who play fair would stay, and the ones who didnt play fair wouldnt be able to register again. (It wouldnt be really fair to ban someone who hasnt done anything wrong at all...)
#3 Make like 2 of the current servers specific to S.A. But this option should have a little catch to it, cause since alot of the old S.A players also play with N.A and EU clans, a good thing to do would be like, every S.A player who registered like before April 31st could play on regular servers, and everyone who joined after that could only play on the specific S.A server. This would work the same way there is a rank limit to join the rookie server, but instead of rank it would be register date. This way old S.A players could still play with their N.A or EU clans or w/e. (This method has been done in another game, and its working pretty well) -
At first I thought this whole ping issue was not a big deal, I always thought "Hey, my ping is low, just means those laggers will die first, right?" Needless to say, decided to play a late game in Alpha, Bravo and Charlie, and my god... There was like 1 other person with a ping below 100 if I was lucky. It wasn't until I started playing did i realize that it was a whole different game against those with such a high ping difference. Wasted alot of time playing games or having to quit because of such. Greatly reduces skill and fun in such scenarios. Because its no longer skill to shoot, because there is alot of time, your bullets will be simply tanked.
I'm not one for banning the group, that seems unfair, especially for those legit players who just wish to have fun. But, I do agree something needs to be done about it. The suggestion about making the servers restricted is a better idea. It would:
A) Lessen this ping issue.
Allow closer monitoring of activities from a certain group, who have been accused of glitching/hacking exploits galore.
C) Fix other issues related to such, that are usually accumulated. Its not unheard of the S.A's kicking people for having a good ping. -
At first I thought this whole ping issue was not a big deal, I always thought "Hey, my ping is low, just means those laggers will die first, right?" Needless to say, decided to play a late game in Alpha, Bravo and Charlie, and my god... There was like 1 other person with a ping below 100 if I was lucky. It wasn't until I started playing did i realize that it was a whole different game against those with such a high ping difference. Wasted alot of time playing games or having to quit because of such. Greatly reduces skill and fun in such scenarios. Because its no longer skill to shoot, because there is alot of time, your bullets will be simply tanked.
1 player or 2 in the room with a ping of 150-200 doesnt lag much...just a couple of ghost shots...but nothing bad....but a full room, everyone with 200+ and a couple of players with 180....and you being the only one 100 or less, it sure is annoying as hell -
The lagging sure is a problems, and without BRs, all this would be one whole lot easier. Unfortunately, Z8 will not think about anything else than money. But, as PMantis said, it would be good to lock all the BRs in one server (Let's say Foxtrot) and don't let them out of there. Like this, we won't have to play a game with BR laggers/hackers/gitchers/morons and whatever it might be. AND, they still will play alone in their corner and bring Z8 some money.
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Okay, for those who didnt understand the idea, here it is again (just to save up your time of backreading)
Make like 2 of the current servers specific to S.A (lets say Echo and Foxtrot). But this option should have a little catch to it, cause since alot of the old S.A players also play with N.A and EU clans, a good thing to do would be like, every S.A player who registered like before June 31st 2009 could play on regular servers ( Alpha, Bravo, etc), and everyone who joined after that could only play on the specific S.A server (Echo and Foxtrot). This would work the same way there is a rank limit to join the rookie server, but instead of rank limit it would be register date limit. This way old S.A players could still play with their N.A or EU clans or w/e, and new players get to still play the game on their own server. (This method has been done in another game, and its working pretty well), Z8 doesnt need to ban, so more money, BRs still keep to play without problem, and the rest of the world can play without all the lag or BRs glitching/insulting everyone.... Its a Win/Win/Win -
i simply say , Z8 get off your high horse deal with is problem, it is SO annoying that almost every server i play in, im one of the few people who has ping below 80 and every one else is 177-9999.
(people with ping above 130 tend to tank 7 ak-47 shots whal thay can get my with 1 some how) -
How about just making a low ping server, say under 150 only. right now even the point of the new UK servers is mute, as people from god knows where with 300+ ping are playing all the time. so rather than punishing people for where their from set some servers to only be join able if ping is lower than x, and if ping goes higher than x for longer than 6 seconds the players is removed from that server.
Or make it a option that can be set when creating a room.
I actually think the second idea is better if players could see on joining a room what the max ping limit is and decide from there which rooms they wish to play in. that would naturally group players with lower pings together and those with higher together, but a player with low ping can still choose to play against high ping player obviously.
I am actually quite shocked to see sometimes how high a ping people can get away with, its similar to using net suspender and should be classed as hacking. no modern game should even allow a ping of over 500 ever. -
DrunknFunkn wrote: »How about just making a low ping server, say under 150 only. right now even the point of the new UK servers is mute, as people from god knows where with 300+ ping are playing all the time. so rather than punishing people for where their from set some servers to only be join able if ping is lower than x, and if ping goes higher than x for longer than 6 seconds the players is removed from that server.
Or make it a option that can be set when creating a room.
I actually think the second idea is better if players could see on joining a room what the max ping limit is and decide from there which rooms they wish to play in. that would naturally group players with lower pings together and those with higher together, but a player with low ping can still choose to play against high ping player obviously.
I am actually quite shocked to see sometimes how high a ping people can get away with, its similar to using net suspender and should be classed as hacking. no modern game should even allow a ping of over 500 ever.
haha lol....you mean something like this?
BRs are going to UK and West Coast servers too....and lagging like hell over there....
P.S. Instead of "HeadShot" he wrote "RedShot", FAIL rofl -
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stop lagging, stop glitching, stop hacking and stop harassing people AND people might stop asking for the BR banning
Stop being a racist and keep ur dumb ideas for urself! the reason y u american kids get pwnd is not bcoz of the ping! non of u r mature enough to play this game, a vast majority of u americans players r like 11-13 yrs old...obviously so players who has more fps experience like a 17 or 18 yr old will kick ur arse around.. and u little kids start QQing hacker..f11..f11 ...etc i myself is a 24 yr old player and i pwn high ranking players and its obvious that theses farmer kids start QQiing hacker, aimbot...etc , i m tired of getting kicked out of rooms!..grrr...enough said!! -
Stop being a racist and keep ur dumb ideas for urself! the reason y u american kids get pwnd is not bcoz of the ping! non of u r mature enough to play this game, a vast majority of u americans players r like 11-13 yrs old...obviously so players who has more fps experience like a 17 or 18 yr old will kick ur arse around.. and u little kids start QQing hacker..f11..f11 ...etc i myself is a 24 yr old player and i pwn high ranking players and its obvious that theses farmer kids start QQiing hacker, aimbot...etc , i m tired of getting kicked out of rooms!..grrr...enough said!!
ROFL...First off all, no one is being racist at all...as you can see no one in this thread was swearing, but it took a S.A guy to start swearing about 3 posts above. Its S.A players who call all N.A and EU players "Gringo FDP" everytime they die, and as long as im concernd, saying that IS kinda racist and it can be considered harassment (since FDP mean Son of a B***h)... and you see most of S.A players QQ when they get killed
2nd, S.A players DO lag alot....alot of them have a ping of over 300, and they like, teleport in front of you, or manage to kill you like 2 seconds AFTER you ran behund a wall (not box, a freakin wall), plus they tank like a whole M4A1 or AK47 full magazine
3rd, S.A have more experience in FPS? rofl....south americans got banned from other games (not only CA) due the high rate of hacking....so if S.A players were so "experienced", there would be no reason for hacking, therefore no reason for being banned from alot of games lol...
So before you start saying BS, get your facts straight -
just to get back on topic, i do still think that the best solution is to either be able to set a ping limit when rooms are created, or make a server for lower pings.
I feel thats a better idea than disallowing certain countries to play on certain servers.
they can then still play with their friends on the servers with no limit. i also think it would be good if a players current ping was displayed in the room lobby, so if you see the room is full of 200+ ping players you can look for another room before you end up having a frustrating game. -
back on topic please. trying to find solution that might work, but if you keep flaming i have to say make UK servers EU only solves the problem too.
ps: no idea where you get your facts from, but i am pretty sure that theres no real difference in maturity based on countrys, just players. limiting the ping to a certain point would eventually kick people who constantly spike or atleast it wouldn't be so bad. -
DrunknFunkn wrote: »back on topic please. trying to find solution that might work, but if you keep flaming i have to say make UK servers EU only solves the problem too.
kid this topic has been discussed over a 100 times! This game is a free to play massive multi-player online game so it has its own pros & cons..if u want to have a gud ping and if u hate laggers i strongly suggest that u buy a retail game like CS-Source and buy your own server and play init with ur frnds from ur own neighborhood ...so thats it..if u like it keep playing or else stop playing!. -
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piriguete300 wrote: »Fck ya .. Dumbass suggestion eva. So i will not be able to play with my other countries friends? GTFO dumbshtpiriguete300 wrote: »theres some ppl from other countries that dont have a fcking 1000 ping u dumbhst ****.So gtfo and think before post sht.Stop being a racist and keep ur dumb ideas for urself! the reason y u american kids get pwnd is not bcoz of the ping! non of u r mature enough to play this game, a vast majority of u americans players r like 11-13 yrs old...obviously so players who has more fps experience like a 17 or 18 yr old will kick ur arse around.. and u little kids start QQing hacker..f11..f11 ...etc i myself is a 24 yr old player and i pwn high ranking players and its obvious that theses farmer kids start QQiing hacker, aimbot...etc , i m tired of getting kicked out of rooms!..grrr...enough said!!
... and this is what us NA & EU players are talking about.. this shows how rude they are. (no one is being racist fyi)
Oh, and funny thing is, arguing back about a game version that was created mainly for North Americans & Europeans. This is NOT a South American Version of Crossfire. IDK where or how that has been confused lol
BTW, We are not saying "BAN South America!!!" no, we are saying, make some of the servers that are already there for North Americans & Europeans ONLY and leave the rest for everyone else.
it would make everyone happy... bc for Example:
10ping Vs. 10ping = virtually no lag and bullet reg
200ping Vs. 200ping = virtually no lag and bullet reg, basically the same as 2 players with 10ping playing eachother
10ping Vs. 200ping = HUGE LAG AND NO BULLET REG!!!! -
BirdsDaWord wrote: »200ping Vs. 200ping = virtually no lag and bullet reg, basically the same as 2 players with 10ping playing eachother
Since this game is p2server2p, they'd both still be lagging and getting no regs, the only similarity to a 10 ping match would be that neither player would have an advantage over the other. -
As a person with a ping of 30-50, I agree wholeheartedly. Why not just split the game up a bit more? Servers for English speaking people alone would be a plus. Having no isolated server for the US alone seems to be the glaring problem here. Isn't this game FROM the US? I mean what the ****.
idk about quitting but maybe playing less, definately not buying ZP anymore, not that I spent much anyways, maybe $60..but I did buy a $50 headset just to play this game so yeah 
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