Elite Mod for the Vote Kicking solution
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AngelArmor wrote: »Uh, ive only seen a few hackers with 2nd lt and up, but ive seen a ton with with smiley face and a little bigger rank than that.
Re-read my post... Did I say hacker? No I didn't.
Almost ALL the butter bars and up are crying farmers.
As to this idea, I jus had a weird construction go full blaze in my head.
I just realized that in CS that when admins weren't in servers you could hit a Function key or type something like "/kick" and then a menu would pop up and you would get a list like:
1. Player A
2. Player B
3. Player C
4. Player D
5. Player E
6. Player F
7. Player G
8. Player H
9. Player I
0. More (if the list is too long)
And then you could select the number of the player you wish to be kicked and the server would reply with a message saying something like:
Bob has voted to kick D!ck. X more votes required.
And if the required amount was met by the other players then the player would be kicked. Yes, I see the flaws in this method but at least there wouldn't be a time limit on the kick and the votes would stick with the player, until the match is over. Hope this helps out a little. -
The concept is great, but I do think it needs further tweaking to match the overall immature playerbase existing in Crossfire (I'm not experienced in Combat Arms, so correct me there if I'm wrong).
The whole idea of someone gaining an advantage over other players in terms of kicking has to be taken literally. To accomodate Z8Games it should require a fee, to accamodate the critics saying this would be abused it should require something along the lines of honor.
Seeing as this is a good concept and needs tweaking, I can assure you this whole idea won't be implemented for another few months at the very least. So why not use that time to find out if players are worthy to gain this advantage.
Instead of just having a fee, it should require the player wanting this privilege to have a good honor and is trustworthy to use the kick ability in all fairness. I'm not entirely sure how this can be achieved without wrecking the game first (abusers abusers abusers), how about requirements along these lines:
- A rank of atleast First Lieutenant
- A Minimum of say..1000-1500 matches played
- Atleast 3 months played
- A good honor (desertion rate)
- A Kill/Death Ratio that is considered "normal" (say 0.75-4 .. this to exclude farmers or atleast limit them)
- A fee of 10-20K ZP for 30-60 days
- Maybe even have an age restriction, based on the age given with registration*
This would probably be a high standard to start with and from there you can use a system that "awards" players using the advantage good or not good by handling a Room Moderator Honor system, maybe with points (+ if used well, - if abused) or something of the kind.
It's definately a step up to fight against abuse of the vote kick system in my opinion, but it needs to be restricted as much as possible to have a counter against abuse.
* Age should be entered with registration, existing players should have the possibility to add their birthdate to an altered profile. This can only be done once and is not changeable, the first few months you'll see kids entering fake birthdates but this will eventually come to a minimum when it's not given too much attention. -
I see the flaws in this method but at least there wouldn't be a time limit on the kick and the votes would stick with the player, until the match is over. Hope this helps out a little.
Time limit and votes only being valid during that period is a good thing, if there was no time limit on CF then the current problem would be one thousand times worse.
Pea brained CF players can't handle that much power.Instead of just having a fee, it should require the player wanting this privilege to have a good honor and is trustworthy to use the kick ability in all fairness. I'm not entirely sure how this can be achieved without wrecking the game first (abusers abusers abusers), how about requirements along these lines:
- A rank of atleast First Lieutenant
- A Minimum of say..1000-1500 matches played
- Atleast 3 months played
- A good honor (desertion rate)
- A Kill/Death Ratio that is considered "normal" (say 0.75-4 .. this to exclude farmers or atleast limit them)
- A fee of 10-20K ZP for 30-60 days
- Maybe even have an age restriction, based on the age given with registration*
It sounds cool but I don't agree with the ZP thing unless it was a one off payment, I won't spend $8.99 to $17.99 a month/2 months just not to get kicked, why should I?
It's blackmail ie get kicked wrongly (when you shouldn't), or get ra.ped financially instead. -
UKDissident wrote: »Time limit and votes only being valid during that period is a good thing, if there was no time limit on CF then the current problem would be one thousand times worse.
Pea brained CF players can't handle that much power.
It sounds cool but I don't agree with the ZP thing unless it was a one off payment, I won't spend $8.99 to $17.99 a month/2 months just not to get kicked, why should I?
It's blackmail ie get kicked wrongly (when you shouldn't), or get ra.ped financially instead.
could always do survey's. -
The ZP thing is there to make sure kiddies that registered with a fake birthdate take advantage of a 1 time payment (getting money from mom and dad) and to accomodate Z8Games with an additional payflow, it has 2 sides, it's a selfish reason really, cause Z8Games is a company and wants to make money, as soon as they see something they can make more money off they'll be less hesitant to look further into it.
And for the 'just to not get kicked' part .. It wouldn't be bad to give this advantage some extra features, such a colored room name in the lobby (to get a game going quicker) and maybe (I believe this is used in other games aswell) +5% exp and GP for all players just playing in that room .. or atleast something along those lines. I hear you when you say it would be too costly if it was just to avoid getting kicked. -
at this point I am willing to do just about anything to stop getting kicked.
You go 24 and 3 your a hacker
you go 14 and 8 your a noob
You go 10 and 9 your a farmer. At least thats how it feels. It really angers me that I get kicked for no reason. Heck i have been in rooms where I haven't said a word and next thing I see is F11. All because I am actually doing decent on that map. If Z8 does not use this system.... they need something similar, whether it be rank that you can't get kicked, new servers where only certain levels/KDRs can go, make negative repercussions happen for the dbags that are kicking people for no reason. -
That's why I said, "Until the match is over." Meaning after the game is over the votes are taken off. The point here is that, forcing someone to pay for this position and be a certain age and a certain ranking can all be falsified.UKDissident wrote: »Time limit and votes only being valid during that period is a good thing, if there was no time limit on CF then the current problem would be one thousand times worse.
Pea brained CF players can't handle that much power.
It sounds cool but I don't agree with the ZP thing unless it was a one off payment, I won't spend $8.99 to $17.99 a month/2 months just not to get kicked, why should I?
It's blackmail ie get kicked wrongly (when you shouldn't), or get ra.ped financially instead.CandyKylla wrote: »at this point I am willing to do just about anything to stop getting kicked.
You go 24 and 3 your a hacker
you go 14 and 8 your a noob
You go 10 and 9 your a farmer. At least thats how it feels. It really angers me that I get kicked for no reason. Heck i have been in rooms where I haven't said a word and next thing I see is F11. All because I am actually doing decent on that map. If Z8 does not use this system.... they need something similar, whether it be rank that you can't get kicked, new servers where only certain levels/KDRs can go, make negative repercussions happen for the dbags that are kicking people for no reason.
So your saying because I go 12-1 im a hacker? That's sad that this is coming from a clan leader, that I looked up to. -
CandyKylla wrote: »could always do survey's.
Blackmail (buy or be kicked) ra.ped (financially) or torture (surveys)! lolThe ZP thing is there to make sure kiddies that registered with a fake birthdate take advantage of a 1 time payment (getting money from mom and dad) and to accomodate Z8Games with an additional payflow, it has 2 sides, it's a selfish reason really, cause Z8Games is a company and wants to make money, as soon as they see something they can make more money off they'll be less hesitant to look further into it.
And for the 'just to not get kicked' part .. It wouldn't be bad to give this advantage some extra features, such a colored room name in the lobby (to get a game going quicker) and maybe (I believe this is used in other games aswell) +5% exp and GP for all players just playing in that room .. or atleast something along those lines. I hear you when you say it would be too costly if it was just to avoid getting kicked.
I wouldn't mind paying in the least but not constantly each and every month ie a subscription (more or less), that is effectively a black hole for your cash because Z8 allows noobs to run riot.
I wouldn't mind a one off fee no matter how large (within reason) probably up to about $50/$79.99.CandyKylla wrote: »You go 24 and 3 your a hacker
you go 14 and 8 your a noob
You go 10 and 9 your a farmer.
Very true, that is how the noobs act, but not strictly true I was 9/8 last night (very bad round), and just got back from the boozer, then "18199780" LT 2nd class from [ColdPlay] clan started saying I'm an hacker (because he didn't like getting shot), so then he told his mate "AnGeLeS" from [ColdPlay] to join the game (on my team) to kick me. It was a 2v2 originally a clan mate and I mate v 2 random people (however my clan mate had to leave) - 9/8 hack score? some people.... Anyways I'll just kick the lot of them from now on.That's why I said, "Until the match is over." Meaning after the game is over the votes are taken off.
I was actually saying it is a good thing that the votes are only valid for that short period (like they are now) otherwise abuse would be worse. Say you need one more vote to be kicked, and then you shoot a guy that has 'yet to vote' and 'didn't want to vote', he could just rage on you and F11. -
UKDissident wrote: »Blackmail (buy or be kicked) ra.ped (financially) or torture (surveys)! lol
I wouldn't mind paying in the least but not constantly each and every month ie a subscription (more or less), that is effectively a black hole for your cash because Z8 allows noobs to run riot.
I wouldn't mind a one off fee no matter how large (within reason) probably up to about $50/$79.99.
Very true, that is how the noobs act, but not strictly true I was 9/8 last night (very bad round), and just got back from the boozer, then "18199780" LT 2nd class from [ColdPlay] clan started saying I'm an hacker (because he didn't like getting shot), so then he told his mate "AnGeLeS" from [ColdPlay] to join the game (on my team) to kick me. It was a 2v2 originally a clan mate and I mate v 2 random people (however my clan mate had to leave) - 9/8 hack score? some people.... Anyways I'll just kick the lot of them from now on.
I was actually saying it is a good thing that the votes are only valid for that short period (like they are now) otherwise abuse would be worse. Say you need one more vote to be kicked, and then you shoot a guy that has 'yet to vote' and 'didn't want to vote', he could just rage on you and F11.
Well, if you read my post you have to hit a Function or typin /kick in chat. So the menu will only show up on your screen. so the vote kick menu only shows up when you hit the FUNCTION or when you type /KICK in chat. Therefor elminating the annoying vote to kick thing when you don't want to. -
Ah got you.
I forgot to add before when I said this:
Very true, that is how the noobs act, but not strictly true I was 9/8 last night (very bad round), and just got back from the boozer, then "18199780" LT 2nd class from [ColdPlay] clan started saying I'm an hacker (because he didn't like getting shot), so then he told his mate "AnGeLeS" from [ColdPlay] to join the game (on my team) to kick me. It was a 2v2 originally a clan mate and I v 2 random people (however my clan mate had to leave) - 9/8 hack score? some people.... Anyways I'll just kick the lot of them from now on.
This popped up:
And the same thing happened to Purity, is this the new improved kick vote?
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Sober sweety... I was saying thats how the noobs act... if you have a good score your a hacker... not so good like a 1.5 kd and your a noob... 1.0 kd or less your a farmer... even if you are not. its ridiculous. and Very annoying. I am so tired defending myself... i have a macro that says... if you think i hack report me and if you think I hack you should uninstall. and on a daily basis I get kicked from about 50% of the games I play. whether it be because of my rank... where I play apparently (that alpha 7 bs is well bs)... heck I played in delta and got kicked for "hacking" I mean seriously... I have tried to keep the rep of the anti hacker and anti farmer (it took me over a year to get to major for crying out loud) and these people who still should be on the rookie server.... scream hack every time they die. Hmmm maybe you shouldn't be able able to play in any of the servers unless your a staff or higher... like delta. that could solve some of the noob problem as well.
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CandyKylla wrote: »Sober sweety... I was saying thats how the noobs act... if you have a good score your a hacker... not so good like a 1.5 kd and your a noob... 1.0 kd or less your a farmer... even if you are not. its ridiculous. and Very annoying. I am so tired defending myself... i have a macro that says... if you think i hack report me and if you think I hack you should uninstall. and on a daily basis I get kicked from about 50% of the games I play. whether it be because of my rank... where I play apparently (that alpha 7 bs is well bs)... heck I played in delta and got kicked for "hacking" I mean seriously... I have tried to keep the rep of the anti hacker and anti farmer (it took me over a year to get to major for crying out loud) and these people who still should be on the rookie server.... scream hack every time they die. Hmmm maybe you shouldn't be able able to play in any of the servers unless your a staff or higher... like delta. that could solve some of the noob problem as well.
Sorry for misreading your post, I am really tired and have been making many mistakes. I gtg to world history now.
Oh, and please don't call me sweety.
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CandyKylla wrote: »Well instead of just QQ about the vote kicking problem like 95% of you guys do, I gave a thought or a solution. It doesn't matter what game its from. Its a good system... and it will stop people from being kicked for no reason. its people like you guys that make this game impossible. oh and guess what nooblets... You don't have a say. So here is some tissues and some cheerios, if you do not have positive criticism to add then GTFO. I don't care if you do not like it, What gives you the right to be a dbag about it. simply say. I do not like this suggestion and this is why.
Oh and btw hun... Counter Strike (a FPS that has been out since before you were born) has basically the same thing... except no voting if they are doing the right thing... if a person in CS has admin they can insta kick you... no reason.... no warning BUh Bye..... See ya later.
/end rant
i got a couple of solutions. #1 and most important is 2 ban brazlians. #2 is force any1 low ranking to be in the rookie server so noobs cant come in and kick u. and also we could make a server thats like 2.0 minimum or something like that so only pros can join -
I am 95% sure they wont ban Brazilians. And honestly... not all of them are bad... just about 80% of them. I do believe the rank should be increased to Staff Sgt in the rookie server. that could be a decent solution. So that people can't just make quick accounts to reek havok with hacks/glitches in the normal servers. The KDR server is also a good Idea... but watch out... people will say your taking ideas from combat arms... blah blah blah.
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ReyDunkinC wrote: »combat arms copy..NO! hackers get this thing and umm gg to any1 who notice he hacks..combat arms makes the most r3t4rded things..letting hackers TOTALLY take advantage if they host..that is BS
DUMB SUGGESTION! REJECTED!
Since when do hackers get kicked in the first place. -
how about instead of paying for "elite Mod" if you could apply to be one.
Your F11/F12 would be worth alot more.
You need a higher rank, must be a zp buyer.
And a few replays to make sure you dont hack would be nice.
There could be alot of these guy almost patroling CF rooms.
(sorry for fail grammar im really tired) -
how about instead of paying for "elite Mod" if you could apply to be one.
Your F11/F12 would be worth alot more.
You need a higher rank, must be a zp buyer.
And a few replays to make sure you dont hack would be nice.
There could be alot of these guy almost patroling CF rooms.
(sorry for fail grammar im really tired)
I have seen so many ZP noobs QQ it is not even funny. Threy think just because they buy ZP means they are far more skilled (I mean it takes SOOOOOO much skill to kill with a M4A1 Custom AmIRiteNao?)
Money =/\= Maturity
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Two different sides of starfleet
They are not guaranteed to conjoin. Last thing I want is a bunch of sad p2p noobs running about with mod powers whining that you hak because you killed then in GM from across the map despite them having sound down because it couldn't POSSIBLY be they were standing in light or failing at bunnyhops. -
This idea is only a dream and probably unworkable but maybe people that are constantly reported for hacking (and their not) should be either unkickable or harder to kick, or allowed to host rooms in which they are unkickable.
Might sort out this problem:
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nucksfan123 wrote: »i got a couple of solutions. #1 and most important is 2 ban brazlians. #2 is force any1 low ranking to be in the rookie server so noobs cant come in and kick u. and also we could make a server thats like 2.0 minimum or something like that so only pros can join
Yes, because people with 2.0 K/D ratio are proooooooooosssss! -
CandyKylla wrote: »After said person was kicked, the room votes whether it was a good call or a bad call for kicking them. If a large group of players in the room disagree about the decision of kicking that person, the game master will not be able to use the Elite Moderator ability for 3 minutes. A player cannot be kicked during the first minute of game play and there must be at least 4 other players in order to kick someone.
There is also a color system that changes the players tag color when it comes to the room votes on righteous kicks or not.
Usually, there is not just one individual spamming hacker, but rather many (entire other team + more). This is why vote kicks manage to get 10+ F11's. This is also why there will probably be 10+ "good calls" on most good/bad decision votes. Kick abuse will all be Green-colored and real kicks will probably be Red-colored. Lol.
I've seen captains QQ and imagine inoobish with it lol
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