competitivness in CF

this isnt going to be what u think, but answer me this...

why do players who have s5 potential sit on the sidelines of a clan that have slightly better players or they just have good chemistry and they dont wanna change that on their roster, when the player with s5 potential can just so happen leave and make their own team or join a team who is building one?

think about it... that is why this game is and wont be competitive, well, more than it is right now. you have clans like LifeLine for example, where they have a s5 and 3-5 subs who could be in other clan's s5, but wont be bc they are there to sub of course... but its the extra 2-5 players who wont even be a sub in a tourney, yet good enough also to be on a s5 team, they just sit their and waste talent just because they have friends there, sure, and also to have the "LifeLine" name. (im not saying it is the reason they are there lol)

now this is NOT a thread about LifeLine. i just used them as an example. I know a lot of clans that are just the same as that tho.. have their starters and subs, then you see the other players who arent on the roster but really good, just sitting their wasting talent lol

basically im saying, this game wont be competitive beyond measure if 5 clans have all the best players in a 15-30 man clan lol

its more an observation, all the "best players" are in like 5 clans all jumbled up =/

Comments

  • if someone leaves from the main 5, they are replaced by the subs, therefore have a 'chance' to play
  • Subs get to play too, the S5 are usually there, but in the instant that they are not,
    in hops in the sub...
  • SZYMEN wrote: »
    if someone leaves from the main 5, they are replaced by the subs, therefore have a 'chance' to play

    not what im saying....

    there is the s5 + the 5 subs, then there is the extra 2-5 players or more who just sit there but have s5 potential for other clans
  • S5 isn't all there is, these players scrim daily as well. It's not like your tournaments are the only potential for competitive play.
    There are fillers such as Pugs, drafts, and scrims.
  • l_l wrote: »
    S5 isn't all there is, these players scrim daily as well. It's not like your tournaments are the only potential for competitive play.
    There are fillers such as Pugs, drafts, and scrims.

    ur not getting the point lol......... like h1n1 clan of 30 members... they want to play competitively, they dont need THAT many really good players tbh... all the potential competition is in only like 5 clans lol


    im not saying clans should break up or anything... its more an observation, all the "best players" are in like 5 clans all jumbled up
  • ur not getting the point lol......... like h1n1 clan of 30 members... they want to play competitively, they dont need THAT many really good players tbh... all the potential competition is in only like 5 clans lol


    im not saying clans should break up or anything... its more an observation, all the "best players" are in like 5 clans all jumbled up

    They're stupid and too unstable to try to find another clan.

    They also have friends in the clan they're currently in.
  • It's not like not being on the S5 is bad..
    I'm not S5 or S8 on my clan [Too many good players]
    I still scrim whenever I have a chance, and I still have fun >.>
  • l_l wrote: »
    It's not like not being on the S5 is bad..
    I'm not S5 or S8 on my clan [Too many good players]
    I still scrim whenever I have a chance, and I still have fun >.>

    But he is talking about "leagues"

    s5 + 2 subs then a bunch of other good players that COULD be on a other team's s5 but just wants to roster ride.

    Get it now?
  • imsoHOOOD wrote: »
    But he is talking about "leagues"

    s5 + 2 subs then a bunch of other good players that COULD be on a other team's s5 but just wants to roster ride.

    Get it now?

    I've gotten it from the start, numnuts.
    I was just saying what's the point...

    You can abuse it.

    Let's use blitz and, uhh BloodyFire as examples.
    Bloodyfire wasn't S5 Sniper, so he rings for .... 2K?
    K.. Bloodyfire and blitz have a plan to overthrow the game..
    Bloodyfire calls random crap like: "THEY'RE ALL RUSHING B" while they are planting A.
    2K runs over to B and realize that they were compromised.
    Bloodyfire, being the guy he is, takes out a flash and flashes the whole team for a good 10 seconds. The bomb as exploded.
    LifeLine pull out with a win, and Bloodyfire had his fun.
    Jesus, the knowledge of modern day noobs.
  • cause alot of teams are bad


    some people would rather not get to play then play with bad players
  • cause alot of teams are bad


    some people would rather not get to play then play with bad players

    ^^
    What he said..
    Why would you help out the enemy.
  • Teams need to stay alive for longer then a week and build chemistry. Everything is broken in CF, it's been discussed. The "process" (if there is any) to fix the issues are going by real slow. WOGL has slowly changed the way games are played competetively. I'm personally going to be making a few simple videos and trying to get IRC used more often. Other people are giving great ideas to the community, but it's barely reaching the intended people. Would be nice to "advertise" on PUG ventrilo and other popular spots so people know whats going on with these ideas.
  • l_l wrote: »
    I've gotten it from the start, numnuts.
    I was just saying what's the point...

    You can abuse it.

    Let's use blitz and, uhh BloodyFire as examples.
    Bloodyfire wasn't S5 Sniper, so he rings for .... 2K?
    K.. Bloodyfire and blitz have a plan to overthrow the game..
    Bloodyfire calls random crap like: "THEY'RE ALL RUSHING B" while they are planting A.
    2K runs over to B and realize that they were compromised.
    Bloodyfire, being the guy he is, takes out a flash and flashes the whole team for a good 10 seconds. The bomb as exploded.
    LifeLine pull out with a win, and Bloodyfire had his fun.
    Jesus, the knowledge of modern day noobs.

    Did you really just type something like that.

    I don't think you're getting the point.
    There is no way to " abuse " it.
    He is saying keep your s5/subs and the rest go find/make a new team.
    l_l wrote: »
    ^^
    What he said..
    Why would you help out the enemy.


    He didn't say that either.
    He said they would rather NOT join a new team to be a starter/play then sit around.

    You're completely lost about this "helping enemy " and " abusing " it.
  • Clan has 20 players.
    5 are starting 5.
    2-3 are subs.

    5 + 3 = 8.

    20 - 8 = 12.

    12 players who "don't get to play".

    Do you dumb kids understand yet?
    There are too many players that are "roster riding" when they would start for a team of their own, therefore increasing the amount of competitive teams.

    As for "helping out the other team".... learn to read, god wttf is wrong with kids these days?
  • Clan has 20 players.
    5 are starting 5.
    2-3 are subs.

    5 + 3 = 8.

    20 - 8 = 12.

    12 players who "don't get to play".

    Do you dumb kids understand yet?
    There are too many players that are "roster riding" when they would start for a team of their own, therefore increasing the amount of competitive teams.

    As for "helping out the other team".... learn to read, god wttf is wrong with kids these days?

    After reading the whole thread your post should smack all the ******s in the face..

    Thnx for the laugh Luck :)

    and the basic math skills :)
  • Clan has 20 players.
    5 are starting 5.
    2-3 are subs.

    5 + 3 = 8.

    20 - 8 = 12.

    12 players who "don't get to play".

    Do you dumb kids understand yet?
    There are too many players that are "roster riding" when they would start for a team of their own, therefore increasing the amount of competitive teams.

    As for "helping out the other team".... learn to read, god wttf is wrong with kids these days?

    Im Smarties, and I aprove this post.

    12 men should be max amount of player in a scrim team. People sometimes say they are having 2 teams of 8 people but s5 + 3 subs is enough for a scrim clan. Since a good clan learn to play as a team and not individuals. So having 20 people is useless
  • Let's have a math contest.. Prize is nerd rights... Who's in?
  • Clan has 20 players.
    5 are starting 5.
    2-3 are subs.

    5 + 3 = 8.

    20 - 8 = 12.

    12 players who "don't get to play".

    Do you dumb kids understand yet?
    There are too many players that are "roster riding" when they would start for a team of their own, therefore increasing the amount of competitive teams.

    As for "helping out the other team".... learn to read, god wttf is wrong with kids these days?
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    Thank you charlesss

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  • Clan has 20 players.
    5 are starting 5.
    2-3 are subs.

    5 + 3 = 8.

    20 - 8 = 12.

    12 players who "don't get to play".

    Do you dumb kids understand yet?
    There are too many players that are "roster riding" when they would start for a team of their own, therefore increasing the amount of competitive teams.

    As for "helping out the other team".... learn to read, god wttf is wrong with kids these days?

    Finally, Someone who is not a complete reject.