Noah's Ark Found? Wut?
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It could be.
I mean I don't believe in a god, but there's evidence that Jesus was an actual person isn't there?
So there could very well be a Noah's Ark.
No one (with common sense) denies the existence of Jesus. No need for your redundancy.
Jesus was real, whether he was the son of God is debatable and won't be answered on these pathetic forums. Using Jesus as proof that there "could very well be a Noah's Ark" is really not a legitimate form of proof or logic. Thanks for trying.aimoperative wrote: »u know....i faced off an atheist at a blogging site once, not the nicest but i've always wanted to debate. and ur using the same argument he used....interesting is it not?
Atheists are powered by logic. (perceived or actual)
In this case, the same logic is being used because... it's logical.
Ever think of that one? Get a real arguement please, true "debates" are not meant to question the opposing "teams" style or train of thought, they are meant to prove your point and validate your opinions.it's just the claims they make and the freedom they remove.
When abused perhaps. I personally find faith to be liberating. We stand on the opposite sides of the spectrum however, so it is reasonable that I don't understand your logic in this case. Elaborate please?aimoperative wrote: »k for one...the bible is a historical account....if u don't agree with me, go to answersingenesis.com. it really is a matter of what u want to believe.......pity i can't type faster...
Don't try to assert something as fact without properly explaining yourself. A reference is fine.... when referenced. What you did is like someone asking me "how much does a m4a1 cost in CF?" and me referencing them to z8games.com
If you are going to put the effort into actually debating then put the effort in. Don't fall ******* And please, next time you type press the shift key at the start of each sentence. As it stands your arguement is flawed and imperfect.
As well, the bible is a historical account as long as you believe that it is. Belief is what this entire "debate" is based on so to base one of your points off belief is a pathetic attempt at validity.Pity you can't spell for crap
No need for personal attacks. Are you scared to address his points?aimoperative wrote: »dude......why DOES EVERY ATHEIST I HAVE ever EVER MET ONLINE insult me......and i have met alot...........if u want to debate. DEBATE!!!!!!! NOT INSULT!
I could say the same to you.
Also, if you want to be treated as older than 12 use capital letters and punctuation. No one wants to read your filth.aimoperative wrote: »ok....how is the big bang possible...
Either the big bang occured, something out of nothing....
Or God created the universe.
Where did God come from?DillaDonuts wrote: »I just posted a link for peoples interest.
Stop the ****ing religious debate over Christianity.
If you guys continue to argue like this, I'm going to request this thread to be closed.
Pu.ssy.
You're the one who started this. Religion + internet = conflict.
Also, it's a debate, not a flame war.aimoperative wrote: »ummm....GOd was always there.......and how is that randomness...all i said was that if there is creation, there has to be a creator, science cannot explain everything, BUT it is very useful....but not everything.....
If God was "always there" when did time start? What is the definition of time?
To have a creation you do indeed need a "creator". Who created the "creator"?
Science has slowly, yet steadily, answered every question it has encountered. Our scientific knowledge is growing exponentially and surely it is only a matter of time before science has some great breakthrough in terms of creation.aimoperative wrote: »sigh....why don't u do the research on why Creationism is true......take a look at both sides...i do it all the time....thats why debating helps....u have to make sure the evidence is foolproof....
Please practice what you preach.Do you have proof he was always there though?
Valid point.aimoperative wrote: »do u have proof the big bang actually happened......that somewhere in space, nothing exploded and became something....
Do you have proof that it didn't? Sure the bible says God created the universe, but like I said, it's all in what you believe.aimoperative wrote: »by very definition, an eternal Being has always existed—nobody created Him. God is the Self-Existent One—the great “I Am” of the Bible. He is outside time; in fact, He created time. Think about it this way: everything that has a beginning requires a cause. The universe has a beginning and therefore requires a cause. But God has no beginning since He is beyond time. So God does not need a cause. There is nothing illogical about an eternal Being who has always existed even though it might be difficult to fully understand.
According to scripture man is not meant to fully understand the nature God.
Thus Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden...
I'm using your own proof (bible) against you. This is too easy...Wannabejedi wrote: »what i believe is that no one, including myself, can be swayed to one side or another via a internet forum meant for 13 year olds.
Smartest person here.aimoperative wrote: »every enemy will find a hole in something....whether the hole was fabricated or is real is what we are trying to debate about....
That's not at all what we are trying to debate. Please stay on topic.god is fake.
Proof or reasoning to back up your statement please.Wannabejedi wrote: »We also have the ability to jump off a cliff.
Why not utilize that ability?
According to the Christian God, man has been given freedom. God will not force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.
In case you are wondering:
I'm Christian. I believe in God. I don't believe in Noah's Ark. -
precisely .iiiTwAsLucK wrote: »No one (with common sense) denies the existence of Jesus. No need for your redundancy.
Jesus was real, whether he was the son of God is debatable and won't be answered on these pathetic forums. Using Jesus as proof that there "could very well be a Noah's Ark" is really not a legitimate form of proof or logic. Thanks for trying.
Atheists are powered by logic. (perceived or actual)
In this case, the same logic is being used because... it's logical.
Ever think of that one? Get a real arguement please, true "debates" are not meant to question the opposing "teams" style or train of thought, they are meant to prove your point and validate your opinions.
When abused perhaps. I personally find faith to be liberating. We stand on the opposite sides of the spectrum however, so it is reasonable that I don't understand your logic in this case. Elaborate please?
Don't try to assert something as fact without properly explaining yourself. A reference is fine.... when referenced. What you did is like someone asking me "how much does a m4a1 cost in CF?" and me referencing them to z8games.com
If you are going to put the effort into actually debating then put the effort in. Don't fall ******* And please, next time you type press the shift key at the start of each sentence. As it stands your arguement is flawed and imperfect.
As well, the bible is a historical account as long as you believe that it is. Belief is what this entire "debate" is based on so to base one of your points off belief is a pathetic attempt at validity.
No need for personal attacks. Are you scared to address his points?
I could say the same to you.
Also, if you want to be treated as older than 12 use capital letters and punctuation. No one wants to read your filth.
Either the big bang occured, something out of nothing....
Or God created the universe.
Where did God come from?
Pu.ssy.
You're the one who started this. Religion + internet = conflict.
Also, it's a debate, not a flame war.
If God was "always there" when did time start? What is the definition of time?
To have a creation you do indeed need a "creator". Who created the "creator"?
Science has slowly, yet steadily, answered every question it has encountered. Our scientific knowledge is growing exponentially and surely it is only a matter of time before science has some great breakthrough in terms of creation.
Please practice what you preach.
Valid point.
Do you have proof that it didn't? Sure the bible says God created the universe, but like I said, it's all in what you believe.
According to scripture man is not meant to fully understand the nature God.
Thus Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden...
I'm using your own proof (bible) against you. This is too easy...
Smartest person here.
That's not at all what we are trying to debate. Please stay on topic.
Proof or reasoning to back up your statement please.
According to the Christian God, man has been given freedom. God will not force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.
In case you are wondering:
I'm Christian. I believe in God. I don't believe in Noah's Ark. -
iiiTwAsLucK wrote: »No one (with common sense) denies the existence of Jesus. No need for your redundancy.
Jesus was real, whether he was the son of God is debatable and won't be answered on these pathetic forums. Using Jesus as proof that there "could very well be a Noah's Ark" is really not a legitimate form of proof or logic. Thanks for trying.
Atheists are powered by logic. (perceived or actual)
In this case, the same logic is being used because... it's logical.
Ever think of that one? Get a real arguement please, true "debates" are not meant to question the opposing "teams" style or train of thought, they are meant to prove your point and validate your opinions.
When abused perhaps. I personally find faith to be liberating. We stand on the opposite sides of the spectrum however, so it is reasonable that I don't understand your logic in this case. Elaborate please?
Don't try to assert something as fact without properly explaining yourself. A reference is fine.... when referenced. What you did is like someone asking me "how much does a m4a1 cost in CF?" and me referencing them to z8games.com
If you are going to put the effort into actually debating then put the effort in. Don't fall ******* And please, next time you type press the shift key at the start of each sentence. As it stands your arguement is flawed and imperfect.
As well, the bible is a historical account as long as you believe that it is. Belief is what this entire "debate" is based on so to base one of your points off belief is a pathetic attempt at validity.
No need for personal attacks. Are you scared to address his points?
I could say the same to you.
Also, if you want to be treated as older than 12 use capital letters and punctuation. No one wants to read your filth.
Either the big bang occured, something out of nothing....
Or God created the universe.
Where did God come from?
Pu.ssy.
You're the one who started this. Religion + internet = conflict.
Also, it's a debate, not a flame war.
If God was "always there" when did time start? What is the definition of time?
To have a creation you do indeed need a "creator". Who created the "creator"?
Science has slowly, yet steadily, answered every question it has encountered. Our scientific knowledge is growing exponentially and surely it is only a matter of time before science has some great breakthrough in terms of creation.
Please practice what you preach.
Valid point.
Do you have proof that it didn't? Sure the bible says God created the universe, but like I said, it's all in what you believe.
According to scripture man is not meant to fully understand the nature God.
Thus Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden...
I'm using your own proof (bible) against you. This is too easy...
Smartest person here.
That's not at all what we are trying to debate. Please stay on topic.
Proof or reasoning to back up your statement please.
According to the Christian God, man has been given freedom. God will not force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.
In case you are wondering:
I'm Christian. I believe in God. I don't believe in Noah's Ark.
ummmmm....ok?
ok, im for one....im really tired and i am not the typing type....sooner talk then text...
for another....if i could meet u face to face, i think my posts would have come across better, as it is, i do not have the patience to type a well written debate, hence my hesitation.
lastly, u can't believe in the bible if u don't accept the wholness of it.. -
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of course you can.aimoperative wrote: »ummmmm....ok?
ok, im for one....im really tired and i am not the typing type....sooner talk then text...
for another....if i could meet u face to face, i think my posts would have come across better, as it is, i do not have the patience to type a well written debate, hence my hesitation.
lastly, u can't believe in the bible if u don't accept the wholness of it..
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Wannabejedi wrote: »of course you can.
many parts of the bible have been mistranslated over the centuries
If the bible is the infallible word of GOd....then why should he have allowed a mistranslation.....hm?
anyway, king james is supposed to be the closest to the accurate thing...thats a whole nouther debate though.. -
aim, you and i have much to talk aboutaimoperative wrote: »If the bible is the infallible word of GOd....then why should he have allowed a mistranslation.....hm?
anyway, king james is supposed to be the closest to the accurate thing...thats a whole nouther debate though.. -
it's unbelievable how the Bible itself has so much confidence.. i have not read any words that says "i think", it's, this will happen and this will happen, and it's coming true.
Predict a vague enough statement anything can come true.
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it's unbelievable how the Bible itself has so much confidence.. i have not read any words that says "i think", it's, this will happen and this will happen, and it's coming true.
Belief gives reassurance and confidence. Besides, who wants to believe in something that *might* have happened.aimoperative wrote: »ummmmm....ok?
ok, im for one....im really tired and i am not the typing type....sooner talk then text...
for another....if i could meet u face to face, i think my posts would have come across better, as it is, i do not have the patience to type a well written debate, hence my hesitation.
lastly, u can't believe in the bible if u don't accept the wholness of it..
At least you didn't mispell it "holeness".
And yes I can believe in the bible, yet reject certain aspects.
It was not written by God, it was written by man, who is imperfect. Even more it was written by multiple men. It was also not written at the same time.
If we are looking for discrepancies, it was not even written in English. The bible we use today was translated from Hebrew to Greek, then from Greek to English. Go to a translator site and translate from English to german, then german to french, then french to English. The statement will be unfamiliar. -
yea, well, the Bible is confidence about the future, it's written down as this WILL happen, unlike other false theories *cough* april 27, doomsday*, surprisingly, it's coming true.iiiTwAsLucK wrote: »Belief gives reassurance and confidence. Besides, who wants to believe in something that *might* have happened.
At least you didn't mispell it "holeness".
And yes I can believe in the bible, yet reject certain aspects.
It was not written by God, it was written by man, who is imperfect. Even more it was written by multiple men. It was also not written at the same time.
If we are looking for discrepancies, it was not even written in English. The bible we use today was translated from Hebrew to Greek, then from Greek to English. Go to a translator site and translate from English to german, then german to french, then french to English. The statement will be unfamiliar. -
dont need proofiiiTwAsLucK wrote: »No one (with common sense) denies the existence of Jesus. No need for your redundancy.
Jesus was real, whether he was the son of God is debatable and won't be answered on these pathetic forums. Using Jesus as proof that there "could very well be a Noah's Ark" is really not a legitimate form of proof or logic. Thanks for trying.
Atheists are powered by logic. (perceived or actual)
In this case, the same logic is being used because... it's logical.
Ever think of that one? Get a real arguement please, true "debates" are not meant to question the opposing "teams" style or train of thought, they are meant to prove your point and validate your opinions.
When abused perhaps. I personally find faith to be liberating. We stand on the opposite sides of the spectrum however, so it is reasonable that I don't understand your logic in this case. Elaborate please?
Don't try to assert something as fact without properly explaining yourself. A reference is fine.... when referenced. What you did is like someone asking me "how much does a m4a1 cost in CF?" and me referencing them to z8games.com
If you are going to put the effort into actually debating then put the effort in. Don't fall ******* And please, next time you type press the shift key at the start of each sentence. As it stands your arguement is flawed and imperfect.
As well, the bible is a historical account as long as you believe that it is. Belief is what this entire "debate" is based on so to base one of your points off belief is a pathetic attempt at validity.
No need for personal attacks. Are you scared to address his points?
I could say the same to you.
Also, if you want to be treated as older than 12 use capital letters and punctuation. No one wants to read your filth.
Either the big bang occured, something out of nothing....
Or God created the universe.
Where did God come from?
Pu.ssy.
You're the one who started this. Religion + internet = conflict.
Also, it's a debate, not a flame war.
If God was "always there" when did time start? What is the definition of time?
To have a creation you do indeed need a "creator". Who created the "creator"?
Science has slowly, yet steadily, answered every question it has encountered. Our scientific knowledge is growing exponentially and surely it is only a matter of time before science has some great breakthrough in terms of creation.
Please practice what you preach.
Valid point.
Do you have proof that it didn't? Sure the bible says God created the universe, but like I said, it's all in what you believe.
According to scripture man is not meant to fully understand the nature God.
Thus Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden...
I'm using your own proof (bible) against you. This is too easy...
Smartest person here.
That's not at all what we are trying to debate. Please stay on topic.
Proof or reasoning to back up your statement please.
According to the Christian God, man has been given freedom. God will not force anyone to do anything they don't want to do.
In case you are wondering:
I'm Christian. I believe in God. I don't believe in Noah's Ark.
any religion is for people who are too weak to make choices for themselves
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dont need proof
any religion is for people who are too weak to make choices for themselves
im done.
Excepting of course the fact that they chose what they believe in right?
Please, if you are going to post pathetic and derogatory posts leave.
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aimoperative wrote: »u know....i faced off an atheist at a blogging site once, not the nicest but i've always wanted to debate. and ur using the same argument he used....interesting is it not?
BTW, did you noticed you have 666 posts, ain't that funny. -
Show proof he does.? show proof that god don't exist.
Well not necessarily. There is such a thing as brainwashing. And religious leaders do that quite well. If you grew up without any outside influence on your beliefs or morals, no media, nothing. Do you honestly think you would be a Chriistian right now?iiiTwAsLucK wrote: »Excepting of course the fact that they chose what they believe in right?
Please, if you are going to post pathetic and derogatory posts leave.
Your logic is incorrect.yea, well, the Bible is confidence about the future, it's written down as this WILL happen, unlike other false theories *cough* april 27, doomsday*, surprisingly, it's coming true.
What's coming true, give me some examples. Revelations? Read revelations and give me a specific statement out of that book. War + famine + death = revelation. How hard is that?
Oh and the returning of "the savior". Am I right? Well where is he? If everything else is apparently coming true... -
Explain natural disaster. they're occurring in places where they're very rare. As I've said, 666 number, also when Jesus said he was coming, he declared that there will be many false humans claiming that they're Jesus. That is also happening, and of course, anti-Christ.H3adShoot3r wrote: »Show proof he does.
Well not necessarily. There is such a thing as brainwashing. And religious leaders do that quite well. If you grew up without any outside influence on your beliefs or morals, no media, nothing. Do you honestly think you would be a Chriistian right now?
What's coming true, give me some examples. Revelations? Read revelations and give me a specific statement out of that book. War + famine + death = revelation. How hard is that?
Oh and the returning of "the savior". Am I right? Well where is he? If everything else is apparently coming true... -
H3adShoot3r wrote: »Well not necessarily. There is such a thing as brainwashing. And religious leaders do that quite well. If you grew up without any outside influence on your beliefs or morals, no media, nothing. Do you honestly think you would be a Chriistian right now?
I grew up in an atheist household and was an atheist for 16 years.
I fail to see how I was brainwashed. Although if I was then I suppose I would fail to see how.
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I would just like to clear up somethings I know I said that I wouldn't post again well I guess I lied. Luck said "something came from nothing" when talking about the big bang. That's not even close to what the big bang is.....that's what religious people say to belittle the big bang and make it seem really impossible to believe. Luck you are very wise in many of these cases but you're wrong on more then just that. If you want to be a Christian in my opinion you can't half ass it. Either believe it all or believe none of it. After all it was written by man. You said that there's evidence that Jesus existed. That's not the case, this story has been passed down for a long time and this story has been shared in many other religions before Christianity. The god Horus,Krishna etc.... they all have almost the same story. And if you are willing to believe what the general population believes that's silly. Christianity is the most acceptable religion these days, if you claim to be a muslim people assume you're crazy or a terrorist. How can you know you're a christian if you haven't gave every other religion a try and put effort into knowing about them. You have a strong believe in the Christian god but don't know even some of the most common stories in the bible or the wickedness and insanity in the old testament. I can produce sources but would rather not spend time doing so. Big Bang theory : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang You're very intelligent but you don't know all and maybe shouldn't throw so many stones until you at least know more of what you're talking about. Same goes for Cclebi who perhaps posted the most dumb things on this thread and made the religious people sound weak. Not the case, some of the best men and women this world has ever seen are religious. Do some research.
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Explain natural disaster. they're occurring in places where they're very rare. As I've said, 666 number, also when Jesus said he was coming, he declared that there will be many false humans claiming that they're Jesus. That is also happening, and of course, anti-Christ.
Think back at anytime in history, there has always been natural disasters lol. They're natural. And who has claimed to be jesus? I haven't studied this so who knows maybe there's a handful of them... But... I don't think anyone is doing that. And what about the number 666? I fail to see it's significance. And there is no anti-Christ stepping up to the plate. Revelations says he will disguise himself as a savior and lead everyone to demise. Are you implying Barack Obama is the anti-Christ!!! (joke... get it? He's terrible) -
CNN, 1 yea ago. One old man claimed that he was the son of god, few believed in him, he was in the news for about an hour. besides, anti-Christ is coming soon.H3adShoot3r wrote: »Think back at anytime in history, there has always been natural disasters lol. They're natural. And who has claimed to be jesus? I haven't studied this so who knows maybe there's a handful of them... But... I don't think anyone is doing that. And what about the number 666? I fail to see it's significance. And there is no anti-Christ stepping up to the plate. Revelations says he will disguise himself as a savior and lead everyone to demise. Are you implying Barack Obama is the anti-Christ!!! (joke... get it? He's terrible)
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I would just like to clear up somethings I know I said that I wouldn't post again well I guess I lied. Luck said "something came from nothing" when talking about the big bang. That's not even close to what the big bang is.....that's what religious people say to belittle the big bang and make it seem really impossible to believe. Luck you are very wise in many of these cases but you're wrong on more then just that. If you want to be a Christian in my opinion you can't half ass it. Either believe it all or believe none of it. After all it was written by man. You said that there's evidence that Jesus existed. That's not the case, this story has been passed down for a long time and this story has been shared in many other religions before Christianity. The god Horus,Krishna etc.... they all have almost the same story. And if you are willing to believe what the general population believes that's silly. Christianity is the most acceptable religion these days, if you claim to be a muslim people assume you're crazy or a terrorist. How can you know you're a christian if you haven't gave every other religion a try and put effort into knowing about them. You have a strong believe in the Christian god but don't know even some of the most common stories in the bible or the wickedness and insanity in the old testament. I can produce sources but would rather not spend time doing so. Big Bang theory : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang You're very intelligent but you don't know all and maybe shouldn't throw so many stones until you at least know more of what you're talking about. Same goes for Cclebi who perhaps posted the most dumb things on this thread and made the religious people sound weak. Not the case, some of the best men and women this world has ever seen are religious. Do some research.
Alright, well seeing as how the only person who knows as much on the big bang theory appears to be you (who said you wouldn't post) I felt simplifying it was necessary. No offense intended. The big bang theory is still a theory, yet it has not yet been disproven so the scientific community regards it as a fact. In fact, the school of Biology is based mainly off the assumption that the big bang did in fact occur, and that life has been evolving slowly ever since that day. In my haste to address so many points and correct the mistyping of others I was blinded by my own beliefs and arrogance so I do apologize to you Lulzwut. I meant not to belittle the big bang, as you seek not to belittle creationism. I was merely trying to place it on the same terms that others were using.
"If you want to be Christian you can't half ass it either"
I'm a Christian I suppose. But at one time Christians were Catholics. Religion grows and changes as society does. Reformation constantly occurs, and I would prefer if labels were removed. I believe in Jesus as the messiah and savour, and that God is the supreme being. I don't believe that 2 of every animal on earth were put on a giant boat.
As for Jesus existing, the bible obviously states that he was there, so naturally Christians will believe he existed. However, Jews and Muslims also believe that he existed. In the Islamic faith Jesus is viewed as a great profit, though not the son of God. Sure this is not scientific or archeological proof, but it seems highly significant that he is included in the Koran.
You are right, I haven't tried being a Muslim, or a Jew, or a buddhist, or any other religion. I've tried and stuck with Christianity because that is what my heart tells me to do. (don't pull a "think with your mind, not your heart" on me).
You're right. I don't know every single story in the bible. For me it's not necessary. I believe in what I believe.
You said you wouldn't post, but I'm glad you did. You make some excellent point, and keep me in check. Thanks.
Edit: This is the Lulzwut I fell in love with. Oh how easily passion fades. -
I would just like to clear up somethings I know I said that I wouldn't post again well I guess I lied. Luck said "something came from nothing" when talking about the big bang. That's not even close to what the big bang is.....that's what religious people say to belittle the big bang and make it seem really impossible to believe. Luck you are very wise in many of these cases but you're wrong on more then just that. If you want to be a Christian in my opinion you can't half ass it. Either believe it all or believe none of it. After all it was written by man. You said that there's evidence that Jesus existed. That's not the case, this story has been passed down for a long time and this story has been shared in many other religions before Christianity. The god Horus,Krishna etc.... they all have almost the same story. And if you are willing to believe what the general population believes that's silly. Christianity is the most acceptable religion these days, if you claim to be a muslim people assume you're crazy or a terrorist. How can you know you're a christian if you haven't gave every other religion a try and put effort into knowing about them. You have a strong believe in the Christian god but don't know even some of the most common stories in the bible or the wickedness and insanity in the old testament. I can produce sources but would rather not spend time doing so. Big Bang theory : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang You're very intelligent but you don't know all and maybe shouldn't throw so many stones until you at least know more of what you're talking about. Same goes for Cclebi who perhaps posted the most dumb things on this thread and made the religious people sound weak. Not the case, some of the best men and women this world has ever seen are religious. Do some research.
Mai teechers says not to truwst wikepedie. -
Never trust wikipedia, no no. anyways, i hate how in school they teach you stuff they don't have 100% off on.I would just like to clear up somethings I know I said that I wouldn't post again well I guess I lied. Luck said "something came from nothing" when talking about the big bang. That's not even close to what the big bang is.....that's what religious people say to belittle the big bang and make it seem really impossible to believe. Luck you are very wise in many of these cases but you're wrong on more then just that. If you want to be a Christian in my opinion you can't half ass it. Either believe it all or believe none of it. After all it was written by man. You said that there's evidence that Jesus existed. That's not the case, this story has been passed down for a long time and this story has been shared in many other religions before Christianity. The god Horus,Krishna etc.... they all have almost the same story. And if you are willing to believe what the general population believes that's silly. Christianity is the most acceptable religion these days, if you claim to be a muslim people assume you're crazy or a terrorist. How can you know you're a christian if you haven't gave every other religion a try and put effort into knowing about them. You have a strong believe in the Christian god but don't know even some of the most common stories in the bible or the wickedness and insanity in the old testament. I can produce sources but would rather not spend time doing so. Big Bang theory : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang You're very intelligent but you don't know all and maybe shouldn't throw so many stones until you at least know more of what you're talking about. Same goes for Cclebi who perhaps posted the most dumb things on this thread and made the religious people sound weak. Not the case, some of the best men and women this world has ever seen are religious. Do some research. -
iiiTwAsLucK wrote: »Alright, well seeing as how the only person who knows as much on the big bang theory appears to be you (who said you wouldn't post) I felt simplifying it was necessary. No offense intended. The big bang theory is still a theory, yet it has not yet been disproven so the scientific community regards it as a fact. In fact, the school of Biology is based mainly off the assumption that the big bang did in fact occur, and that life has been evolving slowly ever since that day. In my haste to address so many points and correct the mistyping of others I was blinded by my own beliefs and arrogance so I do apologize to you Lulzwut. I meant not to belittle the big bang, as you seek not to belittle creationism. I was merely trying to place it on the same terms that others were using.
"If you want to be Christian you can't half ass it either"
I'm a Christian I suppose. But at one time Christians were Catholics. Religion grows and changes as society does. Reformation constantly occurs, and I would prefer if labels were removed. I believe in Jesus as the messiah and savour, and that God is the supreme being. I don't believe that 2 of every animal on earth were put on a giant boat.
As for Jesus existing, the bible obviously states that he was there, so naturally Christians will believe he existed. However, Jews and Muslims also believe that he existed. In the Islamic faith Jesus is viewed as a great profit, though not the son of God. Sure this is not scientific or archeological proof, but it seems highly significant that he is included in the Koran.
You are right, I haven't tried being a Muslim, or a Jew, or a buddhist, or any other religion. I've tried and stuck with Christianity because that is what my heart tells me to do. (don't pull a "think with your mind, not your heart" on me).
You're right. I don't know every single story in the bible. For me it's not necessary. I believe in what I believe.
You said you wouldn't post, but I'm glad you did. You make some excellent point, and keep me in check. Thanks.
Edit: This is the Lulzwut I fell in love with. Oh how easily passion fades.
Thank you for clearing that up, and don't think for a moment I don't respect you, I may think you're beliefs are silly but I see you put thought into it and that's more than most of the people can say. You're the sugar to my spice babe and I love you <3333 See we can all get a long amirite?
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