Non hackers getting kicked for hacking!
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I just wanna post this pic here to help support the removing of the votekick system, and/or the addition of 1.5+ KDR channels.
I was kicked right after this screenshot was taken. So much time wasted, playing a whole match like a god
and then not getting any gp or xp for it. Yes, lots of QQ.
Honestly I havn't even seen a single hack since they started using XTrap, anyone who claims they see
several hacks a week are just incapable of understanding that some people are good players.
EDIT: sorry for the huge picsize
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Honestly I havn't even seen a single hack since they started using XTrap, anyone who claims they see
several hacks a week are just incapable of understanding that some people are good players.
Same here except I saw a real hacker today on Alaska first one in months besides 1 shot killers in MM.
That's how rare it is to see a hacker (1 in months) -
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I just wanna post this pic here to help support the removing of the votekick system, and/or the addition of 1.5+ KDR channels.
I was kicked right after this screenshot was taken. So much time wasted, playing a whole match like a god
and then not getting any gp or xp for it. Yes, lots of QQ.
Honestly I havn't even seen a single hack since they started using XTrap, anyone who claims they see
several hacks a week are just incapable of understanding that some people are good players.
73 kills for GR side vs. 38 deaths on BL side. ~_~ The only way is if half their team was doing worse than 2:10 and AFK:14 then the left and were replaced by some other people that can play moderately (3:3, 3:5) and those guys who didn't even play most of the game just hopped on and whined enough to get him kicked.
Then again, YOUR team has to initiate the kick and should (I know and have experienced a lot that it doesn't always happen) spec you or watch you first to see how you're actually playing. That's why I feel there needs to be a penalty on your teammate initiating a kick. So they'll actually take it seriously instead of just listening to the people getting owned and try to kick people willy-nilly.
Also if there is a real hacker, don't bother kicking them anyways. Keep it in your mind while he's still in game, save the replay, watch how he plays and if they're really hacking send it in. -
Your right, I get kicked from rooms for hacking too. I am not as good as you guys but 2 days ago I got 15-1 at S&D. They tryed to kick me but there was some nice guys there that said that I was only a good player. But there are glitchers everywhere! At powerplant they glitch as crazy.
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It is all about the Ace!
I too have been kicked more times than I can count and would probably be atleast one rank higher if not for vote system. I have noticed that the vote kick system is abused many times by the second highest score to get rid of the Ace. As a paying CF customer, I would like to see them address this issue.
I have spoke with many other good players on this issue and they all complain of the same problem. They get kicked more times than not for the Ace, under the disguise of accusations of Hack. I have invested a great deal of money in this game and strongly suggest the Game Designers address this issue, as I am not the only paying,legit customer frustrated with this problem. Just deal with it is not acceptable for the people that invest their hard earned money to keep this game alive.
Tuffstuff1 -
Im going to start by reposting an earlier idea I have that Ive mentioned numerous times in this thread but being as there are as many posts as there are now, I doubt many people read through it all so heres a recap of my suggestion with a new twist, thanks to an idea brought up by one of CandyKylla's threads.
My original idea consists of allowing very high ranked players ( Second Lieutenant for example ) and higher, the ability to be non kickable room hosts & perhaps also give them even more power such as being able to kick anyone in the room that they see fit to. And allow them a maximum of say 3-5 kicks per game, as really there shouldnt very often be a need for more kicks then that.
Now of course this will be a 2 way street, for all you nay-sayers out there, youre right, there will be punks & morons that would abuse this type of system, thats why we incorporate a ranking & voting system that all the other players in the room can use to vote on whether they feel the room host is kicking others fairly or not. There would be a system where others can vote whether it was a good kick or an unfair one.
This room host would accumulate these scores from others players ( negative & positive scores ) as part of their permanent record. This record being clearly viewable by all other players & being indicated next to their name while in the room before games starts & also during the game itself.
Any time during the game where a room host kicks another player out, a vote screen could pop up for all the other players giving them the option to vote in favor of the room hosts kick, or against. Meaning whether they thought the kick was fair & justified, or unfair & unjustified. These votes could either all be tallied up individually & made part of the room hosts permanent record or say if the majority of voters either agree or disagree, maybe 70% or higher sounds good, positively or negatively, one individual mark could be counted on their record reflecting this.
This score would accumulate ( positive & negative scores ) on the room hosts permanent record & would be presented in a way that all other players could see this score before joining the room hosts game. This way other players would have a good idea whether theyd be joining into a quality room or not. This scoring system would also help to keep the room hosts in check & give them incentive to be fair & not abuse this power for the following reason...
Not only will a high negative score keep most other players away from the room hosts room, but we also make it so that if any unkickable room hosts accumulates too many negative votes that their special status be suspended for a certain length of time, for example one week for the first time, one month for the second time and perhaps even permanently taken away if it happens too much & their negative score remains too outstanding too consistently & for too long.
This would be the perfect system to sort out the bad apples from the good ones. To separate those that would use the system wisely, & those that would abuse it. As many immature, irresponsible & moronic players as there are here in CF, there are also a number of good, honest, decent & fair minded players as well, Im one of them & there are plenty other people that play this game that would fill this role nicely, Im sure.
And as far as these players using any kind of hacks or glitches, this wouldnt present a problem either for several reasons...
Think about it, how many people want to take alllll the time it takes to level up their account to the rank of Second Lieutenant ( which takes a very long time ) or higher & risk having their account banned or suspended by using hacks or glitches? Not very many people would be that stupid & that careless to risk losing their account. Especially since these players would be under even more scrutiny because of their special status & privileges. And for the few here & there that might hack or glitch, guess what, they will be gone & weeded out of the system.
But again, I cant even see this happening hardly ever & I seriously doubt this would ever be that much of a problem to begin with. I cant ever recall seeing any account user with the rank of Second Lieutenant or higher using any kind of hacks or glitches. And Ive personaly seen a toooon of hackers & glitchers in my time here playing CF.
So there ya have it. An idea that I believe would exponentially help to sort out all the real hackers & glitchers & troublemakers & keep them in check. This would also give everyone the opportunity to eventually become these unkickable room hosts & give the legit honest players relief from all the unfair & BS kicks they have to endure. And again if they abuse it, then they get this privilege suspended & even permanently removed if they prove themselves unworthy of it.
So once a player has achieved a very high rank, everyone gets the benefit of the doubt, everyone gets a chance. And if they misuse it, which some will, then they lose it, so no problem there for everyone else either.
The only drawback I can see to this is perhaps, there may still be too many irresponsible people that would not vote fairly...but then again I do think the majority of voters would most often vote appropriately and in the end for those room hosts that use their abilitys appropriately & consistently, it will all average out ok. And the scoring system could even be made in such a way that it takes these bogus and unfair votes into consideration.
For example the system could take each persons vote in the specific game being played & compare it to the votes of everyone else. If one particular persons vote is contrary to the majority of the other players votes by too far a margin, say for example 14 other players voted positively & 3 others voted negatively, then there would be some kind of a negative mark against these 3 voters & if this happens too much & too often across numerous games where they are in the minority like this then some kind of penalty can be brought against them, such as suspension of voting privileges for a week or a month or permanent removal for excessive negative marks. This too would weed out the bad apples from the good ones.
I strongly suggest that Z8 should make a new server testing this process where any ranked players can choose to go to & if its a success, then eventually implement this into all of the servers.
Im open for any "constructive" remarks on this idea, good or bad. Anything you like about this? Any problems or flaws you see here? Just keep the suggestions & opinions civil & decent. -
WhiteTigerXL wrote: »Well, here is my newest lost to add to my "Kicks within a play day" list.
Played 4 rounds today, got kicked from 3, almost kicked from a 4th. (Note NO-DIVA is a shovel user that sucks at bunnyhop, which makes this kick funnier)


easy and with that ping way easier... -
This game is getting worse every day. is my opinion, full of hacker, glitchers, all kind of things. Yesterday i was doing a great score (for me)23-4, and guess what, i was kicked by hacking but i dont hack. And the most annoying thing is that the the guys qho hack dont get kicked, why??, the team need tahem to him..
1. cheater save cheater!
2. cheater don't save cheater if a cheater gettin pwned by other cheater!
3. every cheaters phrase is: "I DONT HACK - I'M A PRO"
4. in crossfire are no pro's, because NO LEAGUE = NO PRO!
5. a game without 0 tolerance against hackers will never have PRO's because every cheater create a new account after a ban and then they hack so obv. that destroys your k/d and u look like a newbie.
6. 4 z8 is it not possible to fix the glitches because they are self not pro's they need 3 months for 1 (buggy) patch.
7. only in one thing where z8 is pro; create new weapons/items to make money + got everyday a new prepaid partner to make money.
8.they dont really look on serious good player without cheat. they look more on the cheater, because a vip cheater buy more from mall in my opinion.
9. are u not surprised/bored if u report a cheater after wachting replay and he is so obv. wallhack and u see him every again on battlefield?
10. i think, whole cf-reports team is so bored of all reports they dont really look with "eagle eyes" ?
11. did you not think u waste your time with reporting and watching replays. if the cheater dont get a bann?
12. a time will come and we're all a bi smarter!
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Small to start
Hey,
in the last couple of weeks,
I experienced that more and more player with a ping of 140 and + went onto the UK Server.
That created huge lags. I would like to see a little software for ping check, so that you laggers can't enter a room which creates lagg.
It can't be that ONE guy even if he does not hack or glich ruins the game.
I don't think this will take a long time to set it up.
This isue, i really dislike is the reason why I would say NO to the following:
"My original idea consists of allowing very high ranked players ( Second Lieutenant for example ) and higher, the ability to be non kickable room hosts & perhaps also give them even more power such as being able to kick anyone in the room that they see fit to. And allow them a maximum of say 3-5 kicks per game, as really there shouldn't very often be a need for more kicks then that."(TimStryker)
....u have in a 16room an average of 5 lags a game.
I met 3 times a ha.ck in the last week.
I only met a 66 once before.
lags are in every 2nd/3rd game 66hacks not.
Of course it does not make fun at all to play a ha.ck, but:
It makes less fun if you always have a lager in game and he does not leave....
(UK Server right now)
why am i not playing right now? ...!
That is the reason why most ppl leave CF
answer enough ?
Just to refer to the kicks of iSleep
lowpingluckers is what you have been called I guess.
You should have gone to Uk server then.
I would have done the same.
EVEN IF Ping works in both directions, advantages are different.
High Ping= Tank
Very low Ping= You see the enemy nearly a second before he sees you.
(I had this experience already, the guy just was walking towards me a couple of times, it allways took him a second to shoot me, so i just aimed and gave him hs, his bullets did not reach me)
To show it from the other side
If you fight against a low pinger (eg.: you:120 he: 20) you fight him after you are already dead, so it is impossible to kill him if he pays attention well enough. -
Possible Suggestion
I dont think that this will ever change but here is a possible suggestion to help reduce some of this taking place:
On you profile page under the section that says (Desertion) you add 2 fields that say:
Started Kick
Kicked
Each time you start a kick for illegal hack program it records it and if you get kicked you records it.
Then if there is a high ratio between (started Kick and or kicked) 5 to 1 or so it saves the recording and gets reviewed by Z8 games or who ever has the ability to Ban for a period of time. If you started the kick and you do it often and the video is reviewed and was determined that the person was not hacking, the person that started the kick is banned for a day.
Or you just put the info (started kick/kicked) up on the profile and anybody that is appling for a clan with a high ratio will be under the review by the clan leader.
This is just a suggestion, I know there will be holes shot in it.
Thanks,
CalJT -
I dont think that this will ever change but here is a possible suggestion to help reduce some of this taking place:
On you profile page under the section that says (Desertion) you add 2 fields that say:
Started Kick
Kicked
Each time you start a kick for illegal hack program it records it and if you get kicked you records it.
Then if there is a high ratio between (started Kick and or kicked) 5 to 1 or so it saves the recording and gets reviewed by Z8 games or who ever has the ability to Ban for a period of time. If you started the kick and you do it often and the video is reviewed and was determined that the person was not hacking, the person that started the kick is banned for a day.
Or you just put the info (started kick/kicked) up on the profile and anybody that is appling for a clan with a high ratio will be under the review by the clan leader.
This is just a suggestion, I know there will be holes shot in it.
Thanks,
CalJT
This won't work, if someone is camping and i'm a complete and utter anti-camper i will just vote kick them for "illegal program" when they obviously aren't, i'm just kicking for camping. -
report for haking low ping
Dude I got kick like 5 times for having low ping. 26 in West Coast. They said low ping= haker. I was like WDF, it is call I live in a good place where low pingers are located. Arg. Reported me for "haking" in Downtown S&D. -Sigh-
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