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Alright as you all know there was a tournament today. I was in it, and I have quite a few things to say about it. I also don't care if you ban my IGN and Forum account after this. These are the few things as follows:
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess.
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess.
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PGP is an encryption method not suitable for this.
Hackers are an issue and it was dealt with as seen most suitable for the situation.
We don't have in-game powers because we're volunteers without any de facto obligation to Z8.
Laggers are laggy because they're on the wrong server, not because the code is poor. -
PGP is an encryption method not suitable for this.
Hackers are an issue and it was dealt with as seen most suitable for the situation.
We don't have in-game powers because we're volunteers without any de facto obligation to Z8.
Laggers are laggy because they're on the wrong server, not because the code is poor.
WOW AT WRONG SERVER ...
dont forget the countries with bad net... its proablly still there closest server...
... say australia for instance... ( poor ausies) -
What I wanna say, is that lowping is an ENOURMOUS advantage towards a normal ping (100 - 170). Now if you get owned even with low ping, I can't imagine how bad you would suck if we had to 1v1 in UK server...NumenorKing wrote: »Alright as you all know there was a tournament today. I was in it, and I have quite a few things to say about it. I also don't care if you ban my IGN and Forum account after this. These are the few things as follows:
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess. -
the only in game power i can think of that would work is banning of glitchers ( bomb glitchers)
1 shot kill in mutant mode.... but they wouldent be able to kick out of game....
just bann the account after game... obviously would have to post replay when they ban them....
but if mods played mroe more hackers would be banned and less would be used
coz they dont wanna get caught by a mod who can instant ban people
Z8 GAMES should train mods better to look out for hacks glitches ect...
and trust them more to give them more powers to help this comunity....
--- played since 15th feb 2009---
got used to hackers.... they do kinda make u better....
when publics get patched i own silly and get kicked myself coz they been patched i stand out like i should -
What I wanna say, is that lowping is an ENOURMOUS advantage towards a normal ping (100 - 170). Now if you get owned even with low ping, I can't imagine how bad you would suck if we had to 1v1 in UK server...
Had to point that out.
Also, cry moar. This thread is fairly pointless. -
Wrong server is EVERY server for some people.
thought this version was international......( world wide) if it aint better start banning countries aint ya...
or call it international and accept laggers being on the closest server to them
just a thought
:-) -
D'uh, that is normal ping... Well, was. Before the UK server. Low ping people were usually only a minority... Besides, there's one thing you're not wrong at. QQ thread, stays QQ thread.Had to point that out.
Also, cry moar. This thread is fairly pointless.
EDIT: D'uh, I'm too high, dbl posted... Shame at me, F11... -
It is. I'm not the one crying about laggers.Dimentional1 wrote: »thought this version was international......( world wide) if it aint better start banning countries aint ya...
or call it international and accept laggers being on the closest server to them
just a thought
:-)
Just saying, if they lag hard, perhaps no server would be the best option. -
It's NA and UK.
Yea but they wont listen to what the game is for, they will still join even if they not close to one of the 2 servers... and since the GM's wont do much about this, the game will become CrossFire Worldwide !!!YES!! more laggars.. -
1. Above 100 ping is never, in any game, considered 'normal'. Average may be the word used.
2. It has been proven that the 'low-ping noobs' can play almost exactly as good on the UK server.
3. Just because a game/server is open to everyone does not mean that everyone should play on it. Everybody is allowed to play but they are hindered by ping and ruin the game for the people with low ping.
4. Mods cannot and will never get any admin privileges in game as they are Forum Moderators, not Game Moderators.
Now to the OP:
Though the word 'Tournament' was used, this was more like a small event. Stop taking this so seriously and relax. I don't know the exact circumstances, but the MODS chose to do what they did. Live with it. Instead of flaming like a baddie you could have come up with some points or suggestions in the event that another similar 'tournament' takes place.
For example you could have explained what happened (without the whining) and suggested:
-Ping difference: Create two tables next time for Euro and N.A.
-H4acker: If one is found hacking, stop the game immediately, save replay and kick. Replace with a player on the waiting list. If no players left, blah blah. Restart the game.
And so on and so forth.
Stupid community is stupid... and bad. -
I agree with #2. But @#4, MODs have no power over anything except the forums. They can't do anything but kick. The Mini-tournament game isn't special. Even on Major Tournaments, mods can't do anything but nade themselves at the beginning of a match. Mods are nothing special in game, they're just another human playing CF. There's no way the devs can create some kind of system that will recognize MODs and give them special powers, they don't probably don't even go to the forums.NumenorKing wrote: »Alright as you all know there was a tournament today. I was in it, and I have quite a few things to say about it. I also don't care if you ban my IGN and Forum account after this. These are the few things as follows:
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess. -
How comes most "Skilled" low-pings lose to me on UK, even tho they win on a norm server than, mr.SMARTies?1. Above 100 ping is never, in any game, considered 'normal'. Average may be the word used.
2. It has been proven that the 'low-ping noobs' can play almost exactly as good on the UK server.
3. Just because a game/server is open to everyone does not mean that everyone should play on it. Everybody is allowed to play but they are hindered by ping and ruin the game for the people with low ping.
4. Mods cannot and will never get any admin privileges in game as they are Forum Moderators, not Game Moderators.
Now to the OP:
Though the word 'Tournament' was used, this was more like a small event. Stop taking this so seriously and relax. I don't know the exact circumstances, but the MODS chose to do what they did. Live with it. Instead of flaming like a baddie you could have come up with some points or suggestions in the event that another similar 'tournament' takes place.
For example you could have explained what happened (without the whining) and suggested:
-Ping difference: Create two tables next time for Euro and N.A.
-H4acker: If one is found hacking, stop the game immediately, save replay and kick. Replace with a player on the waiting list. If no players left, blah blah. Restart the game.
And so on and so forth.
Stupid community is stupid... and bad. -
How comes most "Skilled" low-pings lose to me on UK, even tho they win on a norm server than, mr.SMARTies?
well im the same... i still cant do as good on uk server ( 13-22 ping) as i do canadian ( 95-101 ping)...beacuse its wot im used to and i think its kinda the best ping to have in middle of low pingers and high pingers
i know why but if i tried to exsplaine id probally be here writing for the next 30 mins...
ive done it b4 properly exsplained pings everyopne agreed with it i asked to be put as sticky but never happend,.,,,
no way im writing all that again takes too long...
so if u know pings good for you... if u dont tuff... im not exsplaining -
How comes most "Skilled" low-pings lose to me on UK, even tho they win on a norm server than, mr.SMARTies?
Because you aren't playing 'skilled' players.The UK vs. NA round sort of proved that advantage is always on low ping.
For snipers? Yes.Dimentional1 wrote: »well im the same... i still cant do as good on uk server ( 13-22 ping) as i do canadian ( 95-101 ping)...beacuse its wot im used to and i think its kinda the best ping to have in middle of low pingers and high pingers
i know why but if i tried to exsplaine id probally be here writing for the next 30 mins...
ive done it b4 properly exsplained pings everyopne agreed with it i asked to be put as sticky but never happend,.,,,
no way im writing all that again takes too long...
so if u know pings good for you... if u dont tuff... im not exsplaining
I understand where you are coming from. I join the UK servers sometimes and contrary to what people say, I don't need to "spray a whole clip just to kill someone" nor do I get "3 out of 6 bullets don't reg".
I try to explain that I know I hit the player so I give it time, and sure enough they die (after the bullet hit). That is where most of the 'no-reg' comes from, well that and the fact that the higher pingers are probably already dead when they shoot, and combine some bad coding in there.
Also, before any bad player comes in here like every other time to try to defend their high-ping, gtfo. Without citing experience and logic to baffle your instinctual stubbornness I will explain everything in a few words:
This is CrossFire.
Oh, and there is a difference between 'spiking/lagging high ping' and 'high-ping/due to location'. -
Because you aren't playing 'skilled' players.
For snipers? Yes.
I understand where you are coming from. I join the UK servers sometimes and contrary to what people say, I don't need to "spray a whole clip just to kill someone" nor do I get "3 out of 6 bullets don't reg".
I try to explain that I know I hit the player so I give it time, and sure enough they die (after the bullet hit). That is where most of the 'no-reg' comes from, well that and the fact that the higher pingers are probably already dead when they shoot, and combine some bad coding in there.
Also, before any bad player comes in here like every other time to try to defend their high-ping, gtfo. Without citing experience and logic to baffle your instinctual stubbornness I will explain everything in a few words:
This is CrossFire.
Oh, and there is a difference between 'spiking/lagging high ping' and 'high-ping/due to location'.
yes high ping (stable) due to location only has 1 affect.....u headshot them/ kill them... and they die 2-3-maybe 4 seconds later... and there dead body moves across map a little bit... there is no tanking going on... just takes LONGER TO REG.....
now spikers are bad... they do tank shots... not sure how and why but i know it has something to do with bullet fire times not matching or something....
dont flame me i dont know just guessed on spikers -
NumenorKing wrote: »Alright as you all know there was a tournament today. I was in it, and I have quite a few things to say about it. I also don't care if you ban my IGN and Forum account after this. These are the few things as follows:
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess.
ooo yea lets give kids(some of the mods) in game power so they can kik and ban prayers. i mean how many threads have you seen with that bruce guy kiking, QQing, and spaming f11. thanks but no thanks -
NumenorKing wrote: »Alright as you all know there was a tournament today. I was in it, and I have quite a few things to say about it. I also don't care if you ban my IGN and Forum account after this. These are the few things as follows:
1. How do you expect to have a tournament where the ping and fps differ so much it affects the game play of a pretty fun game. I mean tanking and lagging is bull****. Honestly how do you expect to have a game where you can't even fix the lag problems to make it somewhat fair to everyone.
2. 80 kills with 3 sec re-spawn was the worst mistake you probably have ever made. Honestly 80 kills with 16 people. That gives no one time to get in a grove they like and are comfortable with. So you got 16 people in a hurry trying to be the best. I mean I understand you wanted it to be fast instead of taking for ever, but 100 kills would have been better for most.
3. You try and deny a rematch because a hacker was in the game and say continue just choose the 2nd and 3rd of the team the hacker was on. That is dumb beyond all belief idiotic. Maybe you guys should understand my bracket went by so fast in the game because of the hacker I got maybe 6 kills.
4. Because there was a hacker and the MOD that was in my room saw he was hacking. Why don't the MOD's have in-game power. That would make tournaments with MODS move so much easier with less confusion.
5. This go for the game it self, there are plenty of protection problems that are cheaper and harder to get into then HGWC Game Guard and X-Trap. Like I don't know maybe PGP which is impossible to break through period. I have tried and so have the FBI why do you think it is recommended to businesses.
6. What is the point of having MODS if they are only active on the forums minus a few. You can't rely on only players to watch for hacks cause most don't know. Until they watch the replay and turn it in to you. Then after about 2 days of the hacker still hacking he finally gets banned. So what is the point honestly?
To me MODS need in-game power and the lag needs to be fix or if someone has over 150 ip there in to be a server that won't let them in. So at least us low pingers can play without getting lag owned. There is a lot of stuff wrong with CF, though it is a fun time killer that I love. I think still more work needs to be done on it and faster. This is just my opinion though. I think you guys have done excellent. You may see this as a random rabble but I pointing out in my own words what is going on in the game, and tournaments.
Thank you for you time I guess.
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