Dear M12s Haters,

Look up the M12s' Finalshotreview on Youtube. It was given a 4/5, the same as quite a few other guns. The ammo duration is really short- you go through ammo so quickly that I think it balances out the high power/ low recoil. The SL has the same amount of bullets as most of the other rifles, but the m12s actually has less ammo than the other SMGs except for the mp7. If anything, z8 should pull a QBZ and increase the required rank to staff 1/ staff 4 or whatever the SL rank is.
Thanks for reading.

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  • you are distorting facts,

    1. about draining of bullets: M12s has what it should have, bullets quite enough.

    m12s is not meant to take 100 kills with 80 bullets, in SND, GM maximum 8 kills/round, that's it, its 80 capacity serves that goal very well, if your KDR is not always > 8, M12s will defnitely a quite deadly gun to use,

    even in TDM, who can claim that his/her KDR always >8?, theoratically if all headshots, 80 bullets can make 40 kills, apart from farming, who can claim to ALWAYS have KDR >40?

    as far as I know, a so called 'pro' can have KDR=5~6, that means about 13 bullets per kill, quite enough even for those people, 13 bullets per kill=all shot @legs/hands

    2. it is not about hatred, it is about QQing because most of people here need something to QQ, they just have nothing else to do but to wait for a topic, scarL WAS the topic before, now M12s, if z8 pulls out all guns but M16, they are still gonna QQ M16, you have my word on it;

    3. any new guns are there for a reason, I think z8 guys thought about it very carefully, any new guns pose a challenge to existing gun users. this is a combat/interactive/online game, you need to fit yourself into new conditions/new guns/new maps/new tactics, or you're old school, go home
  • I have this gun, but haven't got round to using it fully. Got kicked the first three games I tried it, haven't bothered since.
  • I didn't say the m12s needed more bullets; I simply said that its strengths are balanced by its low ammo duration. All the other SMGs have the same amount of bullets or more, so theoretically, if someone managed to get all headshots, they would be much better off with a Thompson or a p90. However, I agree with the other two points.
  • COOL EDITS BRO

    What are you trying to prove?
    You might be talking about something over my head, but that's unlikely given your spelling/grammar mistakes.

    At no point in my post did I say I thought the m12s needed more bullets.
    I just thought the ammo duration balanced out the power/recoil. Given the way most people play, they won't try to get headshots with the m12s. They will simply go for bodyshots until they run out of ammo, which happens fairly quickly. You don't buy an SMG to one shot people.
  • You don't buy an SMG to one shot people.

    Darn i wasted my gp :D
  • I agree with you completely, people should just stop whining about it. It's perfectly fine as it is now.
  • Look up the M12s' Finalshotreview on Youtube. It was given a 4/5, the same as quite a few other guns. The ammo duration is really short- you go through ammo so quickly that I think it balances out the high power/ low recoil. The SL has the same amount of bullets as most of the other rifles, but the m12s actually has less ammo than the other SMGs except for the mp7. If anything, z8 should pull a QBZ and increase the required rank to staff 1/ staff 4 or whatever the SL rank is.
    Thanks for reading.

    No no just no. QBZ is the weaker form of a SL. I LUV SL but it's not noob. It's harder to use than I thought. Tar should be 43,000 because the power is less than the scar only faster thing is the fire of rate and recoil also weight. Scar has more accuracy and Power. SL Vs T21 of course SL
  • well its just like the kriss so i guess thats y ppl hate it :s
  • I agree with Greenywood and the Grammar Nazi-desu.
  • LastLif3 wrote: »
    well its just like the kriss so i guess thats y ppl hate it :s

    Yeah... people are using the same arguments that they used for nerfing the kriss. I'm more concerned about this gun since it's so accessible- anyone can make it to sergeant. I actually just came back from a Monaco game using it. I easily took Ace, MVP,and Last Kill. :D
    I think they should raise the rank to SL-level so it's a bit harder to get for noobs but shouldn't pose a problem for skilled players. I agree that casual players shouldn't really be able to get a gun like that within their first few weeks of playing.

    I'm against nerfing it b/c the ammo duration does a nice job of balancing out the gun. It might be total bs... at least until you run out of ammo, and you will if you play at a decent skill level.
  • Look up the M12s' Finalshotreview on Youtube.


    you actually watch those..haha...
  • i think its noobie,but i just want it banned in tournie's. Besides that,i dont care.