Kobe or Lebron?
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Howard is good yes. But he lacks the all-around play style.
He is a beast down low on the boards and with scoring in the post. But he couldn't make treys to save his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRikrksH8es When he does this you can post a link and then brag.
@ your Kobe link above, everyone makes mistakes, there are plenty of times where he has dished the ball off to Robert Horry or Derrick Fisher in the PLAYOFFS to win the game.
Howard has how many rings?
Relating to Howard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyOGbMWPuUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NckvyZUFA9Q&feature=related
Relating to Curry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1KGy3m7Nio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAoxWEj8kY&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9vmoQ5WABU&feature=related
Relating to Griffin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32iG1A9o3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY&feature=related
Relating to Bryant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwIljpw9ltE - Makes me wanna go find a basketball court and play again
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Apathy_40Bomb wrote: »Howard is good yes. But he lacks the all-around play style.
He is a beast down low on the boards and with scoring in the post. But he couldn't make treys to save his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRikrksH8es When he does this you can post a link and then brag.
@ your Kobe link above, everyone makes mistakes, there are plenty of times where he has dished the ball off to Robert Horry or Derrick Fisher in the PLAYOFFS to win the game.
Howard has how many rings?
Relating to Howard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyOGbMWPuUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NckvyZUFA9Q&feature=related
Relating to Curry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1KGy3m7Nio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAoxWEj8kY&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9vmoQ5WABU&feature=related
Relating to Griffin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32iG1A9o3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY&feature=related
Ok now see it's people like you who seriously can't be talked to about sports.
Dwight Howard is how tall, weighs how much, is a center?
When you're that tall and have that much muscle or strength call it whatever you want it's not very easy to make jump shots or anything in that field.....
Now you think Kobe is good player? Kobe wouldn't be able to win a game if he didn't charge into someone and cry foul with a shot.
Also Kobe is how tall? How strong?
In the basketball there are positions such as PG G C SF and so on... Howard is a C (Center) He is supposed to stay under the hoop or near it to either block the living jazz out of the opponent or go for the dunk.
Howard is amazing:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZoV7kWx31M
Edit: Also at your how many rings does Howard have? How long has Howard been playing in the NBA and how long has Kobe? Kobe has been playing I believe 18 years and he only has 3 rings that's a bit to little don't you think?
Also Dwight Howard was drafted our of High School! OK so before you say anything and post irrelevant videos get your facts straight.
Also the video where Kobe so called baptizes Dwight or dunks on him was Dwight's Rookie season. I wanna see Kobe do that to him again.
Kobes 18th year and what happens?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8rGuP5ZcQ -
Intercept420 wrote: »Ok now see it's people like you who seriously can't be talked to about sports.
Dwight Howard is how tall, weighs how much, is a center?
When you're that tall and have that much muscle or strength call it whatever you want it's not very easy to make jump shots or anything in that field.....
Now you think Kobe is good player? Kobe wouldn't be able to win a game if he didn't charge into someone and cry foul with a shot.
Also Kobe is how tall? How strong?
In the basketball there are positions such as PG G C SF and so on... Howard is a C (Center) He is supposed to stay under the hoop or near it to either block the living jazz out of the opponent or go for the dunk.
Howard is amazing:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZoV7kWx31M
Edit: Also at your how many rings does Howard have? How long has Howard been playing in the NBA and how long has Kobe? Kobe has been playing I believe 18 years and he only has 3 rings that's a bit to little don't you think?
Also Dwight Howard was drafted our of High School! OK so before you say anything and post irrelevant videos get your facts straight.
Also the video where Kobe so called baptizes Dwight or dunks on him was Dwight's Rookie season. I wanna see Kobe do that to him again.
Kobes 18th year and what happens?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8rGuP5ZcQ
Kobe Bryant was drafted right out of High School too....
And I'm sorry, but Howard could never do this, ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6n6POS9AIM&feature=related
As I stated above, Howard is a good players, probably the best center in the game. But as to who is better all around, its definately Kobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAslWCctfSM Howard just isn't at his level.
And in response to Kobe being bloked by Dwight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn6JEXAs2so&feature=related it works both ways. -
Apathy_40Bomb wrote: »Kobe Bryant was drafted right out of High School too....
And I'm sorry, but Howard could never do this, ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6n6POS9AIM&feature=related
As I stated above, Howard is a good players, probably the best center in the game. But as to who is better all around, its definately Kobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAslWCctfSM Howard just isn't at his level.
And in response to Kobe being bloked by Dwight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn6JEXAs2so&feature=related it works both ways.
I love the fact how 4-5 players converged on Dwight Howard......
Find me a video of Kobe on him by himself then maybe I'll care.
All these videos you are posting are such invalid forms of trying to show Kobe is the best player....
Bill Russel played 13 years in the NBA and he has 11 rings that's enough for each of his fingers and one on his toe if he prefers. I imply it again Kobe has played 18 years and only 3 rings.... That's pretty sad.
I can keep going all day my friend... -
De_sNiiiiF wrote: »i must say Kobe is a better shooter then Lebron But I say Lebron is better Team player and also a clutch player while kobe just hogs And sometimes just fcks up
So i would say both players are good but i have to go with HOWARD!
In response to Kobe "hogging the ball" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01acf-rpbSA -
Intercept420 wrote: »I love the fact how 4-5 players converged on Dwight Howard......
Find me a video of Kobe on him by himself then maybe I'll care.
All these videos you are posting are such invalid forms of trying to show Kobe is the best player....
Bill Russel played 13 years in the NBA and he has 11 rings that's enough for each of his fingers and one on his toe if he prefers. I imply it again Kobe has played 18 years and only 3 rings.... That's pretty sad.
I can keep going all day my friend...
According to your logic, I shouldn't have to show you one of Bryant blocking Howard on his own. Because according to you, Bryant is a guard, and doesn't have to live in the post like Dwight who is a center. Amirite?
Good for Russel, when I brought up the ring aspect it was ON TOPIC - Bryant vs Lebron. this thread had nothing to do with Howard until you guys made it that way.
I don't really think it matters that Dwight was a rookie when he got blasted upon by Kobe, if you listen to the commentary, you'll hear that Bryant is injured in that game and still dunks over a player who is... how tall again? How strong? -
Ok now you're really just making me laugh....
Any basketball player can say they were injured and still play....
Jameer Nelson had a shoulder which was still healing form a dislocation and managed to play in the Championship and still did some great stuff.
Does it make him a beast or amazing? -
Intercept420 wrote: »Ok now you're really just making me laugh....
Any basketball player can say they were injured and still play....
Jameer Nelson had a shoulder which was still healing form a dislocation and managed to play in the Championship and still did some great stuff.
Does it make him a beast or amazing?
Sure, but he plays for the Magic, so probably not. -
This season: Kobe and Dwight
Kobe +9 points per game
+3.3 assists per game
+.6 steals per game
80% + free throw percentage while Dwight isn't even 60%
Sure Dwight has more rebounds and blocks per game, but he is also 5 inches taller with gorilla arms and 60 lbs on Kobe.
Carrer:
Kobe - 25.3 points per game, 24.6 playoff points per game
Howard - 17.5 points per game, 19.4 playoff points per game
Kobe can own Howard on the court, via youtube, via stats.
I've made my point, Kobe is the best active NBA player.
I'm off this thread.
I'll be back to correct your logic if I feel it is needed. -
Apathy_40Bomb wrote: »This season: Kobe and Dwight
Kobe +9 points per game
+3.3 assists per game
+.6 steals per game
80% + free throw percentage while Dwight isn't even 60%
Sure Dwight has more rebounds and blocks per game, but he is also 5 inches taller with gorilla arms and 60 lbs on Kobe.
Carrer:
Kobe - 25.3 points per game, 24.6 playoff points per game
Howard - 17.5 points per game, 19.4 playoff points per game
Kobe can own Howard on the court, via youtube, via stats.
I've made my point, Kobe is the best active NBA player.
I'm off this thread.
I'll be back to correct your logic if I feel it is needed.
Ok you correct me I think you're being pretty stupid right now.
I have to repeat my self once more.....
Dwight Howard is a Center so his job isn't points, Kobes main goal is to make points....
Dwight has to block, rebound, and dunk it every now and then.
and you are still being very stupid with your stats.
Kobe has been playing for 18 years now! Dwight is still getting better.
You can't just go from stats you just copied and pasted from NBA(dot)com.
You have to look in a point of view where years of experience and positions come in.
So before you "correct" me stop copying and pasting from NBA(dot)com and actually get your stats in a correct way.
Illogical kids are Illogical. -
Intercept420 wrote: »Ok you correct me I think you're being pretty stupid right now.
I have to repeat my self once more.....
Dwight Howard is a Center so his job isn't points, Kobes main goal is to make points....
Dwight has to block, rebound, and dunk it every now and then.
and you are still being very stupid with your stats.
Kobe has been playing for 18 years now! Dwight is still getting better.
You can't just go from stats you just copied and pasted from NBA(dot)com.
You have to look in a point of view where years of experience and positions come in.
So before you "correct" me stop copying and pasting from NBA(dot)com and actually get your stats in a correct way.
Illogical kids are Illogical.
Get your stats in a correct way? My stats are all true, 75% of what you say is opinionated. "Dwight is still getting better." What if he doesn't? That's not a fact, that's an opinion. -
As far as I can tell, they're all great players.
Now on to the dicussion, everyone is making good and valid points, but Intercept is the only one that has had to stoop down to name-calling in order to win arguments.
So gj to everyone else, as soon as someone has to start calling someones oppinion "stupid" or "dumb", he's already lost.
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