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Stefan502 wrote: »

its one hit kill..

Nope, it isn't. Thats the sad part about it. Its actually weaker than the AWM, which is a 1-hit-kill. So unless you make headshots, you'll end up doing 99 damage ever single f'ing shot on the body.

DEaglerX2609 wrote: »

looks like a Grenade launcher L0l but anyway i dont care if its a good gun a bad gun i just want to see another sniper ._. and come on if you are pro with a hard to use gun you feel just like a good player or like "the stupid using bad guns" mostly good player

That's why I want an M110 SASS.

By the way, you might want to throw some punctuation marks into your posts next time. That way people will know where sentences begin and where they end. No biggy, just a thought.

CFchengdu wrote: »

hmmm in the vid he did 2 shots that were 1 hit kills

That could mean that (A) the guys he shot were not at full HP, or (B) he hit them in the gut, where there is also a good chance of 1-shot-killing, just like with the Dragunov.

s1l3ntbob wrote: »

usp is ftw

EMOxCORE wrote: »

Seconded.

(MSG)

Neof1tzx* wrote: »

true, so true !

S4N wrote: »

I'd rather us get the Cheytac M200 Intervention; the greatest sniper rifle ever made.

Just like the Barrett .50 cal, the Cheytac M200 is only useful at long open ranges. Its no sniper rifle you would want to take with you in urban areas where you're likely to get into close quarter combat. For that it is just to big, heavy and impractical. Unlike the M110 SASS, which is designed for this sort of combat.

S4N wrote: »

You gotta' realize that if we got the M110 SAS, it would be very similar to the psg-1. A semi auto 2-shot killer. Besides, if you work on your quick-scoping and reflexes, you can even hold you own in cqc with an awm or barrett. 2-shot kill snipers never outshine a 1-hit kill. Besides, they could make the Intervention like the one in Blackshot. 1-hit kill and very light weight.

I was more thinking along the line of similar to an M700, except for the silencer and it being semi-automatic. And a 2-shot-kill sniper rifle isn't so bad if you can aim, like I can. I've actually picked up my M700 again, because the 1-shot-kills were coming too easily.

S4N wrote: »

As you stated yourself, a 2-shot killer doesn't really have a function other than to make the gameplay a bit more challenging for the player using it. It's really quite useless from any competative standpoint. And many people always use that same line, "a 2-shot-kill sniper rifle isn't so bad if you can aim." However, if you can aim with a 2-shot killer, then why not just use the 1-shot killer that way when you do occasionally miss the headshot, which everybody does from time to time, then you have that chest shot there to pick up the slack. The 2-shot kill sniper rifles are nothing more than practice guns.

This 2-shot-kill would have the advantage of a silencer, as well as speed due to its light weight over the only 1-shot-kill sniper we currently have. This would make it ideal for competitive Ghostmode, unlike the loud AWM people are using now. Even in other modes, these two things would open up a whole new door from a competitive standpoint. I mean, the M4A1 Adv./Custom isn't a 1-shot-kill either, but wouldn't you like to bring it to a skirmish simply because it adds an element of surprise? Try to imagine getting shot from long range with a silenced sniper rifle. Would it matter that it didn't kill you right away if you see your HP drop to 20 all of a sudden and you have no idea where the shot that caused it came from?

S4N wrote: »

I see some flaws in the logic you're proposing here. If a sniper has the element of surprise, then a 1shot kill sniper is perfect because he can kill the enemy immediately. If he has the element of surprise but only has a 2shot kill sniper rifle, even with a silencer, he's risking losing that element of surprise to his enemy. I've been shot from behind by silenced weapons and although they are quiet, it's not impossible or even THAT difficult to figure out where the shots coming from. As for mobility, simply taking out your sidearm or knife would still be much more effective than running with your sniper rifle, no matter how light weight it may be. As for your example about the M4-Custom, I'm not entirely sure what your point was because you seemed to be trying to compare it with a sniper rifle. I agree that the M4-C is not a 1shot body kill, but neither is the normal M4, and the Custom has a silencer and +5 bullets with a not very noticible decrease to its power. Now, I can guarantee you that if the regular M4 was a 1shot kill to the chest and the Custom was not, that no one would be using the Custom at all. This same logic applies with the AWM. If the AWM was a 2shot kill sniper rifle, then yes, people would certainly prefer a semi-auto silenced sniper rifle. However, the AWM is a 1shot kill making it much more useful than a silencer. Then, of course, we could get into the topic of the Barrett, which can 1shot kill a person through doors and boxes.

Here's the flaw in your logic. With the AWM, the element of surprise is lost after the first shot. Sure it will have killed 1 enemy with that shot, but you rarely play 1 on 1 with your enemy. So that means that during a skirmish, the remaining 4 will know where you are. Something that is not the case with a silences semi-automatic 2-shot-killing sniper rifle. Even if you can't get a headshot with your first shot, there is still a very good chance that the shot has caught your enemy off guard, allowing you to fire again.

What I'm saying here is that a 1-shot-kill doesn't guaranty you'll win. However, keeping the element of surprise over your enemy will.